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Title: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 03, 2005, 11:06:08 am
Long time ago my media center runīs without a problem..but now..every time i have a overun time error in version 10....i dont understand it...
please help me...

smegmi



Title: Re: Help..! Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 04, 2005, 12:44:32 pm
i speak with myself :-)

well, i have deinstalled mediacenter 10 and delete the folder in the C:/Programme/jriver...
an then i installed mediacenter 10 again....

it seems the problem is solved

maybee...i hope so....

greetings from germany
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: KingSparta on February 04, 2005, 07:45:41 pm
I was listening
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 07, 2005, 04:23:44 am
the problem is not solved ....today the error message apears again....

maybe i must windows xp install new oder use another mediaplayer :-(

Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on February 07, 2005, 06:53:01 am
Possibilities:

Machine problems
OS problems
Third party plug-ins?

Virus checker?
Pop-up checker?

Toaster oven?
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 03:21:51 am
i dontīt have change anything in the past.....maybe the only way is to deinstall mediacenter complett and install again...with new registration...

but how can i deinstall complett ? When i deinstall about Windows XP the the uninstall seems incomplett..because by the next installation is my registration info available again...
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 08, 2005, 05:07:13 am
I don't think it has anything to do with your registration information. I think it is the only thing that will remain after you have done a complete uninstall.

What are you doing with MC when the "buffer overrun" appears? Can you repeat it by doing exactly the same? What is the exact wording of the error message? You could also post here your System Info from MC Help menu (paste it from clipboard).
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 05:57:55 am
hi...
my system info is

Media Center Registered 10.0.173 -- C:\Programme\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 2067 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 670 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright Đ 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.60 (1021)

Ripping /   Drive G:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Drive H:   Mode:Normal  Type:Auto  Speed:Max
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  Drive H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B   Addr: 1:1:0  Speed:24  MaxSpeed:24  BurnProof:Yes
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None


The Error Message is:

 Here's the entire dialog box:

Title: Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Messsage:
Buffer overrun detected!

Program: ...\Files\J River\Media Center 11\Media Center.exe

A buffer overrun has been detected which has corrupted the program's internal state. The program cannot safely continue execution and must now be terminated.


By Search here in the Group other people had the same problem....

I love the mediacenter.....please help me....  :-) i use the mediacenter since 5 Years....without any Problem.........

Many Greetings from smegmi
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 08, 2005, 06:02:04 am
What are you doing with MC when the error happens? Does it happen again exactly the same way?
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 06:16:05 am
 Yes it happen again exactly the same way...
I can use the mediacenter..but if i click on the error message then mediacenter is closing....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 08, 2005, 06:34:25 am
Are you just listening to the music or doing something else, for example: tagging, ripping, importing, etc? Are you using visualizations?

Perhaps somebody from JRiver can answer what is the connection between MC and the "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library".
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 06:44:50 am
i have read in the internet by google...and i read that the buffer overrun maybe something to do with the security settings in Windows XP Service Pack 2.

I have done the settings...i dont know the german word......and now i dont have at this time the problem again.....

i will observe the problem...the question is...is the problem now solved..........i hope so
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 06:56:11 am
take a look at this link.......

http://forum.freenet.de/app/m/_t134348c1133computer_Verbindungsabbruch_wegen_Buffer_overrun_Windows_XP_Windows_Zone_Computer.html
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 07:03:26 am
in English means....

Data Execution Prevention, DEP in Windows XP Service Pack 2.......i have in the settings for all programms this Function activate except mediacenter...
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Krazykanuck on February 08, 2005, 08:33:48 am
I noticed that the installed version is 10.0.173

The error says \Media Center 11\Media Center.exe

Did you try and install version 11 and then decide to go back to 10?
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 08, 2005, 01:33:17 pm
the version 11 is not the point...it was a error by myself, a copy from the clipboard by another thread here in the group.....

in my case, it is version 10........

the problem is not solved...i have restart my computer and now the problem is here again...

iīm very sad
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Matt on February 08, 2005, 01:58:49 pm
Could you please test the latest MC 11 and let us know if the problem is still there?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 09, 2005, 02:25:22 am
i have install mediacenter 11......the same problem... :-[
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 09, 2005, 06:18:02 am
I was cautious to install Service Pack 2 and have not done that yet. As far as I understand the important changes are mainly in some security areas and because I am already using a hardware NAT router firewall and also software firewalls on each PC I feel that there is no need to encounter possible new problems.

This may be one of them. Microsoft seems to have that DEP problem with numerous of their own software. Since it's not my concern at the moment I haven't properly read the MS articles, but perhaps some of the solutions given there are also valid with MC.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on February 09, 2005, 09:49:55 am
Could the problem be related to this thread?

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=24398.msg170195#msg170195

A "foreign" character in the machine name caused a license failure. 
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 09, 2005, 10:38:31 am
I think this is a different issue. The DEP issues can also be unrelated, though sometimes they are mentioned together with the "Buffer Overrun" error. This Google search finds many hits:  "Buffer Overrun" "Visual C++ Runtime Library" (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-37,GGLD:en&q=%22Buffer+Overrun%22+%22Visual+C%2B%2B+Runtime+Library%22).
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on February 09, 2005, 10:41:52 am
I think this is a different issue. The DEP issues can also be unrelated, though sometimes they are mentioned together with the "Buffer Overrun" error. This Google search finds many hits:  "Buffer Overrun" "Visual C++ Runtime Library" (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-37,GGLD:en&q=%22Buffer+Overrun%22+%22Visual+C%2B%2B+Runtime+Library%22).
I agree it's probably not the same, but error messages are often wrong.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 10, 2005, 10:09:49 am
Well , now i have take a new install of windows xp and the other programms...mediacenter seems to run.....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 11, 2005, 07:28:26 am
and it is the same problem ......  :'(
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: GHammer on February 11, 2005, 09:15:50 am
What entries are being left in the Application and the System event logs?

What apps do you have installed?

Have you visited the Windows Update site? More than once? It takes several visits for some machines to become fully updated.

And, as Jim alluded, what is your machine name?

I see you have an AMD CPU. SP2 uses hardware for DEP with those I think.
No matter, you can disable DEP completely. If that allows MC to run, then enable DEP for only Windows processes, that is also an option.

Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 12, 2005, 03:39:48 am
i will try everything...at this time i look at the programms were installed after mediacenter.
i have deinstalled the logitech webcam software...the cam symbol who start  in the background...

the error windows with buffer overrun not comes at this time......

hopefully greetings....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 12, 2005, 05:40:42 am
the error comes again....   :'( :'(
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 12, 2005, 06:06:28 am
Does it work if you don't install SP2?

I've not yet seen programs that actually need or run better with SP2. In my opinion SP1 is good enough for now. If you need added security you'd be better of with a separate firewall software. (For example, Zonelabs (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?lid=nav_za) and Kerio (http://www.kerio.com/kpf_home.html) have free versions.)

I'm not saying that if there is a problem with MC & SP2 & some hardware/software combinations the problem shouldn't be fixed if possible. Most users will install SP2 eventually.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 12, 2005, 06:14:16 am
i have install sp2 long time ago...and have had  no problems with mediacenter...
i think the reason is some programm iīve installed after mediacenter...
i will search again...for the problem....

mediacenter is the best mp3 programm i know...i must find the reason for this problem...i love mediacenter  :)
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 12, 2005, 06:29:55 am
Strange if it used to be OK with SP2 and the same hardware. You must try to find out what has changed after that. I hope you find something. Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on February 12, 2005, 07:32:18 am
i think the reason is some programm iīve installed after mediacenter...
Look especially at programs like these:
CD burning
Spyware Removal
Virus Checkers
Pop-up blockers
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 12, 2005, 07:55:05 am
ok , i will take a look to these programms........very strange ....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 14, 2005, 11:20:57 am
Okay, here are the latest news...

i have uninstall the extension thunderbird tray for mozilla thunderbird....
at this time i have no trouble with mediacenter...

hopefully greetings..
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: GHammer on February 15, 2005, 09:59:31 am
Does it work if you don't install SP2?

I've not yet seen programs that actually need or run better with SP2. In my opinion SP1 is good enough for now.

Normally you give pretty good advice and info.

On this I believe you are incorrect.

SP2 is NOT simply a security patch, though it has quite a number of items dealing with security. Perhaps Microsoft made a mistake in "selling' SP2 via the security addons.

As with any Service Pack, there are numerous items that deal with system stability, device fixes (like firewire errors), file access across networks, etc. All the hotfixes since the SP1 are included.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5d;811113


Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 15, 2005, 11:19:03 am
You are probably right. I was thinking just my stable systems and the programs I use. I have also installed most of the fixes and it is quite different than having a vanilla SP1.

I have not heard about programs that need SP2, but I used the words "in my opinion" and "for now" since the situation can change any time.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 15, 2005, 11:31:21 am
buffer overrun comes again

....iīdonīt know what it is....

i will give up.........
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Alex B on February 15, 2005, 01:02:20 pm
Never give up!  :)


Here's the entire dialog box:

Title: Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library

Messsage:
Buffer overrun detected!

Program: ...\Files\J River\Media Center 11\Media Center.exe

A buffer overrun has been detected which has corrupted the program's internal state. The program cannot safely continue execution and must now be terminated.

Perhaps somebody from JRiver can answer what is the connection between MC and the "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library".

This question remains unanswered. Programmers should know if the error message is valid and tells something. We users can only guess.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on February 15, 2005, 02:00:29 pm
hi alex !

okay...i donīt give up..

i will search the reason.....

many greetings for you.....from me.....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: rdugert on June 08, 2005, 05:02:30 am
Hello guys - have exactly same issues with this overrun message and media center.
Any help will be appreciated...
Rd
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Matt on June 08, 2005, 05:55:08 pm
Make sure you have the latest MC 11 installed.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: stanger89 on June 29, 2005, 04:16:47 pm
Hi all,

I see this is proving to be an elusive beast.  I thought I'd chime in that I'm getting the same error.  The error itself seems to have no effect on MC, but pressing OK or closing the window closes MC.  Also I get a slew of boxes (estimate 10-20 tilled).

Note that I get this on my server (Windows 2003 Server Standard), where I don't play anything just serve via the Library server (with Transcoding to Vorbis).

The requisite System Info:
Media Center Registered 11.0.299 -- M:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

 Server 5.2  (Build 3790)
AMD Athlon 1149 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 151 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.3790.0 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   No CD drives found.
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None


-edit

I see .302 is out, I'm upgrading now and we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: Matt on June 29, 2005, 04:39:19 pm
Hi all,

I see this is proving to be an elusive beast.  I thought I'd chime in that I'm getting the same error.  The error itself seems to have no effect on MC, but pressing OK or closing the window closes MC.  Also I get a slew of boxes (estimate 10-20 tilled).

Note that I get this on my server (Windows 2003 Server Standard), where I don't play anything just serve via the Library server (with Transcoding to Vorbis).

The requisite System Info:
Media Center Registered 11.0.299 -- M:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

 Server 5.2  (Build 3790)
AMD Athlon 1149 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 151 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.3790.0 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   No CD drives found.
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None


-edit

I see .302 is out, I'm upgrading now and we'll see what happens.

Try to isolate the cause of the problem.  For example, disable transcoding, or transcode to a different format.

Let us know what you find.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: KingSparta on June 29, 2005, 06:21:36 pm
I Was also seeing this problem but i have not seen it with the most recent builds
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: stanger89 on June 29, 2005, 07:49:25 pm
Try to isolate the cause of the problem.  For example, disable transcoding, or transcode to a different format.

Let us know what you find.

Thanks.

FYI, I've been running with 302 and have seen it again, 3 more times to be specific.  I've got a log for you (is there any way to attach a file?)  I currently have it transcoding to Vorbis - Normal.  I'll try none for a while and see what happens.

http://users.mcleodusa.net/r/ratpac/Log.zip

Here's the system info:
Media Center Registered 11.0.302 -- M:\Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\

 Server 5.2  (Build 3790)
AMD Athlon 1150 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 130 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.3790.0 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.3790.0 (srv03_rtm.030324-2048) / wnaspi32.dll: N/A
Ripping /   No CD drives found.
  Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: Yes /  Copy volume: 32767
  Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No 

Burning /  No burners found.
  Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Write CD-Text: Yes
  Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: None

-update

I've let it go for a while without transcoding and get the same errors.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 15, 2005, 01:18:22 pm
itīs also the same in version 11 ...

Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: KingSparta on July 15, 2005, 02:13:31 pm
I have not seen it in over a month.

Listening to: 'Always' from 'Sentimental Journey 1939' by 'Guy Lombardo' on Media Center 11
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 19, 2005, 01:07:38 pm
i have try Windows started in safe Modus....Media Center looks well, and now itīs seems to be okay in normal mode....

well, i hope so.....
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: scub on July 20, 2005, 01:10:54 am
I was having problems with Buffer overrun errors and I was able to prevent the errors by shutting down Library Server.  With Library Server running MC would just randomly crash, without anyone ever trying to connect (I think  :) ).

I installed the latest version of MC and noticed that the files in  \Program Files\J River\Media Center 11\ were not so new so I deleted the folder cleaned out the registry and reinstalled again.  Files look newer and no crashes.  Been running all day with no errors and Library Server running, its been a couple weeks since I could do that.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 20, 2005, 12:10:11 pm
hi, how can i shut down the library server...? Thanks...
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on July 20, 2005, 12:11:07 pm
It's in the tree under plug-ins.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 20, 2005, 12:26:19 pm
Thank you Jim, Now, at the first click it seems okay...but i have only 6 restores this year, because i have many new installation of mediacenter to solve the problem... :-)
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on July 20, 2005, 12:30:33 pm
Let us know if you run out.
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 20, 2005, 12:40:41 pm
Ok, Jim  i will do it...thank you very much...

i have shut down the media server under Tools - Advanced- Media Server...
I will try it.. i hope in the year 2006 i have again 10 Trys :-)

Maybe the error message dont appear again..
I hope so, because mediacenter is great

greetings from Germany ( Hamburg )

smegmi
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 24, 2005, 06:53:11 am
i have disconnect my DVD Drive from the Motherboard.

At this time the Error Message " Buffer Overrun" donīt appear again.
Maybe this was the reason for this Error.

I hope so...i will tell you if this was the reason

I donīt understand the relation between this Error and the DVD Drive if this was the reason for
the error...

greetings

smegmi
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 25, 2005, 02:37:22 am
Yes, no error message ...itīs seems to be the DVD Drive from LG.  :)

Does anybody knows where the reason could be for this effect?

greetings

smegmi
Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 26, 2005, 03:15:15 am
Now i have change the DVD Drive and the error message donīt appear...

The reason for the problem was the DVD Drive... :-)

I have 4 restores left to find the problem and many times... :-(

Maybe another User can get now find the problem faster with this thread if he have the same problem

greetings from me

smegmi

Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: smegmi on July 30, 2005, 09:31:19 am
Hello Jim,

it makes me nervously , that i īhave only 6 restores to left...i have need 3 restores to solve the problem with the buffer overrun error..at last the error problem was my DVD Drive

Now itīs working and i am sooooo  happy...  :-)

Can i be sure that the restores automatically reset to 10 restores in 2006 or must i write  2006 a E-Mail to jriver ?...

I know that i am very crazy in relation to the restores...but i love Media Center and i use it long time.

I have many Songs on my PC, my complete CD- Musik and other mp3 . Thatīs the reason why i am so nervously, because Media Center is in my Opinion the best Programm to manage and play my mp3īs

greetings from germany...

smegmi

 


Title: Re: Buffer overrun
Post by: JimH on July 31, 2005, 10:24:40 am
Thanks.  Just let us know if you run out of restores.