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Title: Album not synching from tags
Post by: kaczor47 on February 28, 2006, 02:36:16 pm
I can't seem to get the 'Album' field to synch from tags.
I update the ID3 tags using another application (ID3-TagIt), but when i perform "Update Library from Tags", the album field stays the same. Other items (Artist, Title, Comment) update fine.

Any ideas of what i am doing wrong?
(using MC 11.1)
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: Matt on February 28, 2006, 03:16:37 pm
Use Action Window > File Properties > File Type Info to view a complete tag dump.
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: kaczor47 on February 28, 2006, 03:34:35 pm
Ooh, we may be getting somewhere...
Here is an example of the dump:

ID3v1 Tag: (128 bytes)
   Name: Symphony No. 1: Adagio molto -
   Artist: Beethoven
   Album: Symphony No. 1 in C major Op.
   Year: 1963
   Comment: EAC; LAME v3.97b2 VBR q2
   Track #: 1
   Genre: Classical (32)

ID3v2 Tag: (2376 bytes)
  TCON (Content type): Classical
  TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 01/04
  TENC (Encoded by): Exact Audio Copy   (Secure mode)
  TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): Symphony No. 1 in C major Op. 21
  TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): Beethoven
  TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Symphony No. 1: Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  TYER (Year): 1963
  COMM (Comments): EAC; LAME v3.97b2 VBR q2
  TSSE (Software/Hardware and ..): LAME v3.97 (beta)
  TIT2 (Title/songname/content..): Symphony No 1 in C major op 21; 1. Adagio molto - Allegro con brio
  TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Solo..): Ludwig van Beethoven
  TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): 9 Symphonien - Disc 1 of 5
  TYER (Year): 1963
  TRCK (Track number/Position ..): 1



Why are there 2 'TALB' entries?
One is the one I entered (and want displayed by MC) : Symphony No. 1 in C major Op. 21
and the 2nd is being displayed is: 9 Symphonien - Disc 1 of 5

Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: Matt on February 28, 2006, 03:54:52 pm
ID3-TagIt may be writing two albums.

Your life may be easier if you used MC for ripping and tagging.  It has arguably the most secure ripping engine (when enabled) and has fully flexible LAME encoding using the latest recommend version of LAME.
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: kaczor47 on February 28, 2006, 05:47:35 pm
i prefer to stick with EAC for ripping, but i think i will switch the tagging program.

thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: JimH on February 28, 2006, 06:13:24 pm
i prefer to stick with EAC for ripping
Oh, that hurts!
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: Cheburashka on February 28, 2006, 06:14:52 pm
One thing that might get me to switching for ripping would be if jriver used stereo rather than joint stereo by default.

Another would be honoring the settings of the source file when converting.

Just a couple of suggestions...
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: Alex B on February 28, 2006, 06:46:14 pm
One thing that might get me to switching for ripping would be if jriver used stereo rather than joint stereo by default.

If you mean LAME MP3 encodings, MC uses the recommended settings that give the best possible MP3 audio quality at the given quality level or target bitrate. MP3 is always a compromise since it is a lossy format. "Stereo" instead of "Joint Stereo" leaves less room for audio signal. LAME joint stereo uses practically lossless stereo coupling. Old Fraunhofer encoders used a joint stereo system that spoiled stereo imaging at lower bitrates, but that has nothing to do with the system used in LAME. More information is e.g. here: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15024

For special purposes any standard LAME command line string can be used.

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Another would be honoring the settings of the source file when converting.

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Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: kaczor47 on February 28, 2006, 07:44:08 pm
Oh, that hurts!

Sorry! I thought you'd say that. Hey, I like lots about the software, and will continue using it.

(but while I do have your attention....I would like MC much better if it would write the 'rating' into the 'popularity' tag as opposed to the 'comment' field  ;)- http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=32117.0] )
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: kaczor47 on March 01, 2006, 09:35:44 am

Just for the record, I figured out what went on.
The culprit was EAC and the user :)

I used LAME settings are recommended by hydrogenaudio:
-V 2 --vbr-new --id3v2-only --pad-id3v2 --ta "%a" --tt "%t" --tl "%g" --ty "%y" --tn "%n"
but also had the EAC set to pad ID3v2 tags by 4kB, which along with the '--pad-id3v2' switch caused the problem.

problem solved.
Title: Re: Album not synching from tags
Post by: JimH on March 01, 2006, 09:41:34 am
Thanks for reporting the solution.