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Title: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: Mr ChriZ on June 28, 2006, 02:20:58 am
In WMP as you hover the mouse over the buttons, they start glowing,
as you move gradually stop glowing.
I'm guess this is done by fading the glowing graphic in and out.

Would be somewhat funky if MC12 did this =)
Title: Re: Fade to Noire
Post by: jgreen on June 28, 2006, 10:11:30 am
No.

No. No. No.

HOWEVER. . .

Is anyone else bothered by the bleached white spaces in between the sleek (and sophisticated, ChriZ, no glowing things) grey borders?  It's tough on my current monitor to pick out any sort of gridlines or highlighting.  I'd like to see the white spaces come down a notch, get some contrast and definition.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire
Post by: Mr ChriZ on June 28, 2006, 02:15:47 pm
Erm, the glowing things are already there, just hover your mouse over the play button,
or the maximize button... they glow, they just don't fade between glowing
and not glowing....as WMP does.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire
Post by: jgreen on June 28, 2006, 02:35:35 pm
Sorry, I thought you were talking about something rather fuzzier than current illumination.

BTW, I tried taking Noire into Skin Effects, specifically, Add Color/<select grey>.  the result was that a little gamma down brought out the gridlines I was looking for, and took down the bleachiness of the white space.  So:

Yes. Yes. Yes.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: Mr ChriZ on July 05, 2006, 08:37:43 am
Mentioned already in the release thread it looks great.
One thing that could also be added is the scrollbars.
They glow in Noire, and would probably benefit from
fading in and out.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: datdude on July 17, 2006, 11:21:56 pm
Not related exactly, but would love to see in tile view, the files at bottom, be translucent. 
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: marko on August 02, 2006, 05:00:05 pm
I don't mean to sound ungrateful or anything, but noire is not going to do it for me long term. sorry folks.

Dropping back to dragyn's Opus MC (blue) skin. That skin is such a piece of class. Really. Beautifully understated, with a colour scheme perfectly suited to lengthy tagging sessions, and skin components that are easy to hit and easy to read. Compare, if you will, their respective action windows...

Noire:
(http://www.theganghut.co.uk/pics/ia/12/aw-noire.jpg)

Opus MC (blue)
(http://www.theganghut.co.uk/pics/ia/12/aw-opus.jpg)

I know these things are subjective, but for me, the choice is simple. Here's hoping v12 doesn't break it too much!
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: LonWar on August 02, 2006, 05:02:35 pm
Take a look at Noire using Negative effects.... Really cool looking!
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: Matt on August 02, 2006, 05:33:38 pm
I know these things are subjective, but for me, the choice is simple. Here's hoping v12 doesn't break it too much!

Is something broken with other skins?  If so, just let us know.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: jgreen on August 02, 2006, 05:53:24 pm
Marko--

IMO, what's amiss with Noire is that the white levels are all blown out--meaning anything near max white for the skin is drawn to that color.  I went into skin effects and did an "add color"/<grey> so that the whites are taken down to various leves of dove grey.  All of a sudden the gridline shades reappear.  Then I went into the font options and selected "bold", and Noire gets some contrast, and readability.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: LonWar on August 02, 2006, 06:44:01 pm
Marko--

IMO, what's amiss with Noire is that the white levels are all blown out--meaning anything near max white for the skin is drawn to that color.  I went into skin effects and did an "add color"/<grey> so that the whites are taken down to various leves of dove grey.  All of a sudden the gridline shades reappear.  Then I went into the font options and selected "bold", and Noire gets some contrast, and readability.

Man, I never new you could specify your own colors... That is pretty cool!!

Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: Mr ChriZ on August 03, 2006, 06:51:16 am
This depends alot on your screen too, I noticed on some
TFT screens my skin looks all one shade,
where as on my Trinitron they stand out really well.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: glynor on August 03, 2006, 12:36:18 pm
This depends alot on your screen too, I noticed on some
TFT screens my skin looks all one shade,
where as on my Trinitron they stand out really well.

Most flat panel display colors == bad (and you usually can't fix the gain on the individual RGB channels either).

That's why I stick to CRTs.  The manufacturers are just being forced by the market to produce these things cheaper and cheaper, which leads to very inconsistent quality.  At work, we have a large number of LCD monitors, and many of them -- even same exact models purchased at the same time -- don't match each other at all!

Again... I love my Samsungs (http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=925765).
Title: Re: Question for Glynor
Post by: Mr ChriZ on August 09, 2006, 08:03:05 am
Glynor, do you use something to synchronize colours
on your Samsungs?

I'm interested in finding out how easy/well they synchronize?

My mum needs a decent screen for her photography stuff,
and we've been recommended to get a Spyder Calibrator...

We decided her old Belinea screen needs replacing as well.
These Samsungs seem the most obvious buy at the moment.
Title: Re: Fade to Noire (Resolved in 12.0.30) :-D
Post by: RobOK on August 19, 2006, 08:58:14 am
Marko--

IMO, what's amiss with Noire is that the white levels are all blown out--meaning anything near max white for the skin is drawn to that color.  I went into skin effects and did an "add color"/<grey> so that the whites are taken down to various leves of dove grey.  All of a sudden the gridline shades reappear.  Then I went into the font options and selected "bold", and Noire gets some contrast, and readability.

I agree with the cause, but not the cure.  Add Color - Grey for me did not work well at all.  Using bold is interesting....  in some ways it makes an easier quick read due to contrast , but over time reading all bold makes my eyes "tired".

Good suggestions though.