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Title: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: thorsten on March 23, 2014, 02:27:10 pm
Hi everybody,

I use MC for my 7.1 home cinema, including 3 subs and full activated center/surrounds. Everything is set up with acourate convolving and works flawless!
I really like the surround field that is provided by JRSS!

But, as always  ::). I'm looking for further enhancements of my system. All speakers are selfbuilt with Visaton-chassis and I still have some chassis spare....

So, are there any plans for including a 3D-sound enhancer like Prologic 2z or DTS Neo-X?

Regards,

Thorsten
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: Trumpetguy on March 23, 2014, 03:40:21 pm
Or height channels in front. Seemed to be the best thing ever when receivers got it a couple of years ago.

I have a similar setup, and will soon have a couple of decent, very small speakers available.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: sirkus on March 23, 2014, 03:56:37 pm
+1
Front height/presence speakers support would be cool :) Most of the recent amps support it.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: Trumpetguy on March 24, 2014, 11:37:01 am
+1
Front height/presence speakers support would be cool :) Most of the recent amps support it.

Just to be clear, what I was thinking of was JRSS to do mixing similar to what newer receivers do. As an alternative to the ones (like me) that does not have a receiver between JRiver and the amps.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: SpeedD408 on March 24, 2014, 08:43:37 pm
Just to be clear, what I was thinking of was JRSS to do mixing similar to what newer receivers do. As an alternative to the ones (like me) that does not have a receiver between JRiver and the amps.

I'm in this boat too and would love high/wide support.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: njoak on March 25, 2014, 03:03:01 am
+1
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: sirkus on March 26, 2014, 02:35:19 pm
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Front height/presence speakers support would be cool Smiley Most of the recent amps support it.

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Just to be clear, what I was thinking of was JRSS to do mixing similar to what newer receivers do. As an alternative to the ones (like me) that does not have a receiver between JRiver and the amps.

Yes, that's what I was thinking :) It was only for a comparison of something that is missing in MC compared to hardware.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: sirkus on April 21, 2014, 11:26:49 pm
Another request for JRSS, would be a 2.0/2.1 to 3.0/3.1 mode for fronts+center.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: flac.rules on April 22, 2014, 01:19:17 am
It would also be nice to get some technical details about what theory governs how JRSSS splits the signal and adds extra information, I understand that a complete rundown of the algorithm might be too much, but a general description of the principles used would be nice, so one can know if they are sound.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: Blaine78 on April 22, 2014, 01:44:12 am
For a 2 channel setup, be great to have 'wide surround' effect processing on rear channel mixdown. Would give a phantom surround type effect on a 2 channel stereo.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: packux on April 22, 2014, 04:31:34 am
For a 2 channel setup, be great to have 'wide surround' effect processing on rear channel mixdown. Would give a phantom surround type effect on a 2 channel stereo.

+1 on this one, I am currently working with a 3.1 set-up and even If I ever set-up a 5.1 I would still love to have a phantom surround effect while watching content in my living room and not in the home cinema.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: mojave on April 22, 2014, 05:07:29 pm
For a 2 channel setup, be great to have 'wide surround' effect processing on rear channel mixdown. Would give a phantom surround type effect on a 2 channel stereo.
Try Effects > Surround Field in the DSP. 
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: Blaine78 on April 22, 2014, 05:40:11 pm
Try Effects > Surround Field in the DSP.  

Would this affect front and centre channels? Keeping the front and centre channel tracks pure, and adding a wide phase type effect to only rear/side tracks would be more natural, would create the illusion of phantom rear/side on a 2 channel stereo system.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: sirkus on May 22, 2014, 04:42:55 pm
Back to this one with some news. 9.1 is coming :)

2L release (9.1 Auro-3D 96kHz/24bit ):
https://shop.klicktrack.com/2l/1001153 (https://shop.klicktrack.com/2l/1001153)

The technology:
http://www.auro-3d.com/system/creative-tool-suite (http://www.auro-3d.com/system/creative-tool-suite)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auro_11.1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auro_11.1)

Again, it would be cool if JRiver could support 9.1 upmixing.
How does it upmix if I select 10 channels?
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: fitbrit on June 25, 2014, 12:14:37 am
Dolby Atmos AVRs announced by Onkyo yesterday too:
http://dolbyatmos.onkyousa.com/
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: mojave on June 25, 2014, 12:18:20 am
How does it upmix if I select 10 channels?
It upmixes to 7.1. The higher channel counts are used for active crossovers, extra subwoofers, extra side surrounds, etc.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: Matt on June 25, 2014, 09:25:54 am
For now, outputting more than 7.1 is possible using DSP Studio > Output Format > Channels and then using Parametric Equalizer to fill the additional channels.
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: retro on June 25, 2014, 02:48:04 pm
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For now

That sounds promising.. ;)
Title: Re: Further development of JRSS?
Post by: thorsten on August 16, 2014, 03:20:43 pm
For now, outputting more than 7.1 is possible using DSP Studio > Output Format > Channels and then using Parametric Equalizer to fill the additional channels.
Hi,
I already use 12ch Output for 3 dedicated Subs and active center. The mixing is done via convolving (txt-file) with a total of 18 steps ;)
It. is also possible to mix e.g. The Surround and backsuround in a dedicated Channel for filling between them in the Edge.

But, what I/we Need Are New Algorithm for the new setups. Hopefully they will be rather Soon available.

Regards,

Thorsten