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Title: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: ths61 on August 09, 2014, 12:40:40 pm
Are there any audio quality upgrades slated for version 20 ?

TIA
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: Hendrik on August 09, 2014, 12:47:13 pm
You cannot really increase the quality of bit perfect audio.
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: 6233638 on August 09, 2014, 01:03:37 pm
You cannot really increase the quality of bit perfect audio.
Declipping can help a lot with poorly mastered tracks.
 
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/audio-repair/rx/features/#declip (https://www.izotope.com/en/products/audio-repair/rx/features/#declip)
http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/samples/ (http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/samples/)
 
Because Volume Leveling is an unmovable plugin in Media Center, it's not really possible to leave a declipping plugin enabled right now though, since clipping happens in the upper 3dB or so.
 
 
At one point Matt seemed interested in this, but I don't know that anything ever came of it.
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: ths61 on August 09, 2014, 02:22:28 pm
You cannot really increase the quality of bit perfect audio.

You have reached the end of the internet.  Nothing more to be achieved.   ;D
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: astromo on August 11, 2014, 03:02:25 am
You cannot really increase the quality of bit perfect audio.
Declipping can help a lot with poorly mastered tracks.
 
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/audio-repair/rx/features/#declip (https://www.izotope.com/en/products/audio-repair/rx/features/#declip)
http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/samples/ (http://www.perfectdeclipper.com/samples/)
 
Because Volume Leveling is an unmovable plugin in Media Center, it's not really possible to leave a declipping plugin enabled right now though, since clipping happens in the upper 3dB or so.
 
 
At one point Matt seemed interested in this, but I don't know that anything ever came of it.

Interesting suggestion. Went for a wander and then I wondered, "What would Audacity do?"

There's a bit of mathematics to sort this stuff out:
http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72712 (http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72712)
Then there's getting the right logic to make sure you don't make the problem worse.and actually target the clips...  hmmm ... :-\
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: 6233638 on August 11, 2014, 10:17:00 am
Then there's getting the right logic to make sure you don't make the problem worse.and actually target the clips...  hmmm ... :-\
Yes, this is why I would prefer to use a VST plugin for it, rather than processing my tracks offline.
Declipping is probably never going to be perfect, so it's nice to have the option of changing the software doing the processing at a later date.
Title: Re: Any audio upgrades slated for version 20?
Post by: kstuart on August 11, 2014, 12:28:09 pm
You cannot really increase the quality of bit perfect audio.

Part One:

http://www.audiostream.com/content/qa-john-swenson-part-1-what-digital

Part Two:

http://www.audiostream.com/content/qa-john-swenson-part-2-are-bits-just-bits