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MikeO

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MC Crashing
« on: January 08, 2020, 02:57:38 am »

Hi

I am getting a repetitive crash when updating tags

for example I have a 30 track 2 disc album , I have 3 Custom Tags >  Box Set, Disc Name, Disc Volume

As I bulk change the tag for all 30 tracks I get a waiting circle and MC crashes , it has happened 3 times in the last 5 mins. The Tags are partially updated

PC Is i7 16Gb RAM, Library & App on a 256 SSD - with nothing else running except MC and MC Server Music is stored on 4Tb HDD

This is build 26.0.15 Win 10 with all updates , the Music Drive is Excepted from Anti Virus

Any ideas , its a bit irritating
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 07:22:15 am »

Double check antivirus.  Windows Defender?
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 07:37:39 am »

That Drive is excluded , the C:\ drive isn't  . I use a protected Working drive until i'm happy then copy to the main Music Library drive which is excluded
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 07:41:03 am »

Just checked , the main F Drive (Music Files) is excluded

I even had the Users appdata JRiver folder excluded for V 24 , I just excluded V 26

Unlikely to be that
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 07:53:24 am »

What antivirus do you use?
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MikeO

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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 07:54:21 am »

Windows Defender , nothing special
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2020, 03:14:41 am »

Any more ideas , i did a little bit of editing yesterday and MC crashed repeatedly

I was editing a 10 disc set changing say 150 tags , it must have crahed 5 times

I have upgraded to 26.0.18 but not tested yet
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2020, 06:41:15 am »

Windows Defender , nothing special
Have you followed the instructions in the thread about it here?
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2020, 08:11:07 am »

Where is here ? I assume you meant a link
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2020, 08:26:10 am »

This can't be a Windows Defender problem because the drive I was working on is excluded from Windows Defender , all my Library File Drives are
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2020, 08:39:01 am »

Do you let your media drives go to sleep?
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2020, 09:01:23 am »

Did you follow the instructions in the Windows Defender thread? 

Are you using MC 26.0.18?  It's at the top of this board.
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2020, 09:17:37 am »

In addition to excluding the folder(s) your media files are in, you really should also exclude Media Center 26's folder/files as well.

In my own experience, Windows Defender (along with and other antivirus applications) can cause weird issues in MC, especially after a new, major MC version was just released. It may or may not happen to everyone, but I have noticed things in the not-too-distant past like Defender causing MC to lock up, and higher resource usage (I suspect Defender's engine is submitting MC's executable samples to Microsoft for additional scanning).

I do plan on redoing the Windows Defender tutorial at some point, since in the current tutorial I kinda went overboard excluding every file and folder, but I think it can be simplified to excluding just two folders.
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2020, 09:23:48 am »

I have all appropriate folders excluded including The MC 26 folder in app data. Its been like this for literally year with adjustments for the Version specific folders

I have upgraded to 26.0.18 , but the issue I was experiencing was on 26.0.15

I am working on MC s we speak and so far I haven't had a crash maybe its fixed in this version ?

The release notes don't give any hints. My PC currently has very little running on it .
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2020, 09:26:28 am »

There has been a Windows update today along with a Visual Studio update for Net Core , both are applied and the PC rebooted

I have a few things to do that similar to what was giving me grief yesterday , I'll keep you posted
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2020, 09:30:47 am »

One thing may be is that my C System Drive is getting a bit full only 9% Free

I'll have a bit of a clean up

Would that have an impact ?
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2020, 09:57:23 pm »

I have a good clean up of the C drive i now have 50 gb free lets see if that helps

Out of interest which C++ redistributable do i need for MC26

I have 8 versions !!, from somewhere
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2020, 08:46:41 am »

Just an update , I cleared 40 gb of disc space on my C drive , no crashes since

Looks like 9 gb free wasn’t enough ?

Is that for real?
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Re: MC Crashing
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2020, 08:51:21 am »

Probably not.
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