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Marco76

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Album Sort Name
« on: November 17, 2020, 03:51:01 am »

Hello everybody!
I'm actually an Audirvana user but for a couple of days I've been using the trial version of MC (Mac). Everything looks nice and very flexible but there is one thing a really miss: the ALBUM SORT NAME. My library (circa 3000 albums) is completely tagged accordingly, which is very important for classical music. But MC doesn't recognize this tag. Can you help me solving the problem? Thanks!!
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RoderickGI

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Re: Album Sort Name
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2020, 03:59:17 pm »

You can add a field to MC with a name that exactly matches the file tag name, both spelling and case, and MC will import the tag value into the new field.

So if the tag is actually ALBUM_SORT_NAME, then that is what the field needs to be named. Note that the Display Name of the field doesn't have to be the same, so you can give it a Display name of something more friendly, like "Album Sort Name".

Once the field has been created, if you have already imported the files, just select the files and run the right-click "Library Tools > Update Library (from tags)" function, and MC should be updated with the tag values from your files. Test with just a few files first. Make a Library Backup before that!

You can also use the Tag() function in a View to read the value of a tag directly from files. See https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Accessing_and_Storing_Functions#Tag. This is useful for checking that MC can read the tag, and that you have the tag name exactly correct, but as it reads the file directly you shouldn't use it generally in Views. It would be too slow and resource intensive.

Also, if your ALBUM SORT NAME is just a rearrangement or combination of some other data in MC, then you could instead create a Calculated field, which would have an expression defined to calculate the value you want, and the field could be written to file tags if you wish. What do you put in your ALBUM SORT NAME?

Perhaps also share the file types you are working with (MP3, FLAC, ?) and the source of your ALBUM SORT NAME data (MusicBrainz, ?).

I thought I had read several discussions about this on the forum, but I can't find them quickly. Perhaps a more diligent search would find them. Maybe I am thinking of ARTIST SORT NAME.


https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Library_Fields
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tagging
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tagging_Classical_Music
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What specific version of MC you are running:MC27.0.27 @ Oct 27, 2020 and updating regularly Jim!                        MC Release Notes: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Release_Notes
What OS(s) and Version you are running:     Windows 10 Pro 64bit Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572).
The JRMark score of the PC with an issue:    JRMark (version 26.0.52 64 bit): 3419
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  Running JRiver for Android, JRemote2, Gizmo, & MO 4Media on a Sony Xperia XZ Premium Android 9.
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Marco76

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Re: Album Sort Name
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 03:51:17 am »

Thank you, Roderick! It worked as far as the tag itself is concerned  :D Now the question is how to let the albums be shown accordingly (with means, not after their original name but after their "new" sort name). I've tried by right-clicking the Library > Customize Library View > Set rules for file display > Modify results, then I chose "Sort by" and on the right column I added the new tag "Album Sort Order". Well...nothing changed, the albums are shown exactly like before, no matter what sort name they have. Do you have a solution for that?
Thanks a lot for your help!!!
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RoderickGI

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Re: Album Sort Name
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 01:53:48 pm »

Have a read of this tutorial. It is a bit old, but still worth a read. https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,68960.0.html

Sorting in Views can be a bit challenging, as it can be done multiple ways; in the View definition, and using the drop-down sort options in the View tab itself. That also interacts with the Grouping in the View, and Sort within Groups. MC will remember the sorts applied. You can also set up sort Presets and apply them to a View.

Have a look at all that and see how you go.
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What specific version of MC you are running:MC27.0.27 @ Oct 27, 2020 and updating regularly Jim!                        MC Release Notes: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Release_Notes
What OS(s) and Version you are running:     Windows 10 Pro 64bit Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572).
The JRMark score of the PC with an issue:    JRMark (version 26.0.52 64 bit): 3419
Important relevant info about your environment:     
  Using the HTPC as a MC Server & a Workstation as a MC Client plus some DLNA clients.
  Running JRiver for Android, JRemote2, Gizmo, & MO 4Media on a Sony Xperia XZ Premium Android 9.
  Playing video out to a Sony 65" TV connected via HDMI, playing digital audio out via motherboard sound card, PCIe TV tuner
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