Topic: More w00t... (Read 6285 times)

Matt · « **on:** July 18, 2003, 01:13:07 pm »

There's an update version of the 3D visualizations available here:

ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/tmp/vis_3D.mjp

Remember to right-click when they're running to change things.

To use your images in "Picture Cube" and "Picture Terrain":

1) start playing some music in MC
2) pick some images and play them (so they're playing at the same time as the music)
3) switch to 3D visualizations -- the images from (2) will be used

Each time a song changes new images will get used. Using pictures of faces with "Picture Terrain" is not advised.

nila · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2003, 01:26:50 pm »

Matt - Your insane!!

But then we always knew that

Best programmers are always insane.

Have a beer on me: c(_)

nila · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2003, 01:28:44 pm »

aww,

I'm getting:

error starting 3D visualisations
(error finding compatible stencil buffer format).

I have a Matrox G400 Max dual head (love the two monitors - thanks for the support for it - JUST discovered that I could be browsing the library in one and having the video/image etc playing in the other one - LOVELY!!)
I have the LATEST drivers for it.

Matt · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2003, 01:32:55 pm »

It won't work with all hardware. Your video card needs to support Windowed mode and an acceptable stencil buffer format. Some cards won't work -- even with the latest drivers.

phatanhappy · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2003, 01:47:44 pm »

I like it.

KingSparta · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2003, 02:01:24 pm »

Not working On My ATI 9700

it seems when you swich to tunnel it is going, but slows down and stops.

none of the selections seem to work correctly, and they did with the orginal MC9 and the first alphas of the 3d visual.

Marko · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2003, 02:24:27 pm »

Working sweet on my GeForce3 Ti 200

Thank you.

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Listening to: 'Circle of Fire' from 'Spirits of Nature' by 'A collection of Native American inspired music and chants' on Media Center 9.1

fex · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2003, 02:32:29 pm »

Works like a charm on my Nvidia GeForce 2Ti.

Just great!

JimH · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2003, 02:33:18 pm »

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Using pictures of faces with "Picture Terrain" is not advised.

He isn't kidding. He never does.

MachineHead · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2003, 02:55:15 pm »

Hmm. This is what I felt like when I dug a pond in the backyard the past few weekends.

KingSparta · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2003, 03:01:23 pm »

weard

i got it working, when i minimized MC9 and then when i got done downloading Latest MC9 version i maximized it so i could close MC9 to install the new version and it was working.

really weard.

Marko · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2003, 03:53:55 pm »

MachineHead, shattered m8?

Matt, this really is rather cool. I'm enjoying a generous 10 yr old McAllan atm, I raise my glass to you.

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Listening to: 'Chi Mai' from 'The Classic Chillout Album (CD 2)' by 'Ennio Morricone' on Media Center 9.1

This time I really am off to bed

-marko

Doof · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:05:07 pm »

Are they supposed to move?

Picture terrain rotates a little bit, but the terrain doesn't change.

And the picture cube seems to pause for long periods of time.

Actually a lot of them do.

I'm assuming this is a bug. So judging on pure potential... this is pretty darn cool.

JimH · « **Reply #13 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:14:27 pm »

Doof,
Right click and try setting some of the options. Speed, etc. Something isn't getting set right, I think.

Jim

Listening to: 'Bee-Ree-Bee-Kym-Bee' from 'Mambo Mucho Mambo' by 'Machito & His AfroCuban Orchestra' on Media Center 9.1

JimH · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:17:03 pm »

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This is what I felt like when I dug a pond in the backyard

Going ice fishing next winter, Mike?

EPDM makes a good liner.

Sam · « **Reply #15 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:31:49 pm »

Very cool. Nice work.

I have an ATI A-I-W 8500DV. It seems to work generally well on my PC.

At normal speed, the tunnel zips along fine, and hesitates briefly every few seconds - but not enough for it to be a big deal. When I change the speed to fastest, it stops a lot.

The fly-by on the terrain is jerky and stops a lot.

At one point, the spectrum analyzer turned into what looked like a gray suspension bridge looking down from the top. Gray cables going down to a granite strip. Jerky movement, with an occasional small flash of the MC logo. I switched visualizations and back, and it reverted to normal.

Some subjective comments:

The granite floors on dot fountain and spectrum analyzer look awesome. Nice reflections.

I love the tunnel and the spectrum analyzer.

On some of the visualizations, it feels like there's a lot going on that is not really connected to the music. The camera movement, the spinning of the cube, the balls bouncing; they all seem to happen independent of what's playing - at least as far as I can tell.

Aside from the tunnel, it doesn't look good when you move the camera. I suggest the camera stay fixed; and spin, bounce, or mutate the objects in front of the camera.

Images (whether the MC logo or an album cover) look great on the cube, but don't look good as a floor, a terrain, a wallpaper without a visible edge, or on tiny balls. They're fine as a wallpaper above the granite floor.

Some other ideas, in case you're looking for them:

Convert the basic visualizations to 3D
- View the classic spectrum analyzer at an angle in 3D, showing 3D columns going up and down.
- Map the Oscilloscope onto a spinning globe along its equator.
- Map the Oscilloscope onto a spinning cube, perhaps having different styles on each face
- Perhaps create spinning cube versions of all the visualizations and trackinfo pages.

I can imagine one other moving camera view that might work... flying over an infinite terrain, like you do in the tunnel. I wouldn't like it, but I think it'd be pretty popular.

The tunnel could look better with something other than the MC logo... various color gradients, or stripes or other patterns.

Bubbles.

JimH · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:36:05 pm »

Sam,
Thanks for the ideas. The tunnel should have whatever image is current. If the music has cover art, for example, you should get sick looking at it while flying through the tunnel.

Jim

KingSparta · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:39:14 pm »

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flying through the tunnel.

I prefer the term Wormhole

Sam · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2003, 04:57:33 pm »

My terrain doesn't change at all. I've played with the settings. I restarted the app. I'm not feeling motivated enough to reboot...

phelt · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2003, 06:46:19 pm »

Terrain: terrain doesn't change, animation stops for a few seconds every few seconds.

Particle creation: seems fine.

Spectrum analyzer: seems fine.

Starscope: no textures or lighting on star, just black. BG seems fine.

Text: same as Starscope, and animation stops for a few seconds every few seconds.

Picture cube: not really a cube, but that's cool. seems fine.

Tunnel: scary fast. seems fine.

Oscilloscope: same as Starscope.

Media Center Registered 9.1.215 -- G:\mp3\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 2000 Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 2 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium 4 3029 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 2096 MB, Free - 1635 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 / Shell32.dll: 5.00.3315.2902 / wnaspi32.dll: 1.0.0.0 , , / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0002)

Ripping / Drive J: Copy mode:ModeSecure CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive K: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive L: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive N: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: No / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive K: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 Addr: 1:1:0 Speed:16 MaxSpeed:16 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Drive L: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210A Addr: 2:0:0 Speed:12 MaxSpeed:12 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: No / Direct decoding: No / Write CD-Text: No
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

sraymond · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2003, 08:13:14 pm »

Matt,

Hats off... it's things like this that make MC a step above the rest!

I've had little luck getting it to work though. Often times, there are plenty of images available in the "images" visualization, but when I switch to 3Dvis, they all disappear - leaving the 3Dvis to work of the MC logo. Once or twice, I have limited success (I can't find a pattern) with the cube, but others are all white. And once, I get a Media Core crash.

ATI AIW 8500 DV

Media Center Registered 9.1.218 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1672 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 136 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1233 (xpsp2.030604-1804) / wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping / Drive F: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive G: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive H: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive I: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive J: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive G: ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 Addr: 2:1:0 Speed:4 MaxSpeed:52 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: No
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

lee269 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2003, 08:15:20 am »

This is working pretty well for me, and the picture cube is great for photos.

I get slight stuttering as reports by others occasionally, and most noticeably with the tunnel I think.

Also occasionally with the text preset the text is not skinned with the cover art, but a uniform colour, which renders it a bit of an amorphous blob.

The tunnel is really sick, and should come with a health warning

Id also like to see it change with the current slideshow image if possible, and perhaps speed up and slow down occasionally - anything to make it bearable for more than 30 seconds.

sraymond · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2003, 12:59:08 pm »

OK... so what am I doing wrong? When I add the images, the visualization is set to "Images". Changing visualizations clears the images and I'm left with the default MC logo for the 3Dvis.

Scott-

NoCodeUK · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2003, 01:56:02 am »

This is very cool and works sweet on my Radeon 7200. However I have noticed a bug and it links in with an olod MC bug which I am not sure if I have reported befor or not. Start 3D Vis, switch to Windowed view, MC spawns the window and it has a title in XP task bar, now siwtch back to internal, cycle through MCs vis alternatives, when returning to 3D vis it says "error starting 3d visualisations, (error creating Direct 3D device). Happens everytime. Where it lins to an MC bug is that after going into windowed mode and back, the task bar always still has a button for Media Center Display. I am guessing XP thinks the D3D output is still open in this window and cannot create another one. The only way to get the vis back is to reset MC then reload and all is fine.

EDIT: This also materialises if you try to change the image list.

Adam

skidoo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 04, 2003, 11:26:13 pm »

Works great. Has defnite potential. And for the record, I'm in the camp that places a lot of value on visualizations. And let's just say it's a good thing MC has such good library managment capablities :-) .

Here's a Love and Rockets cover rolling around on my screen:

Here are my specs:

Video: MSI MS-Starforce GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE with AGP8X
(NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE with AGP8X); 128 MB

Media Center Registered 9.0.180 -- C:\Program Files\Media Jukebox\

Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 2792 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1047 MB, Free - 638 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping / Drive D: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive E: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive D: SONY DVD RW DRU-500A Addr: 3:0:0 Speed:24 MaxSpeed:24 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: Yes / Normalization: None

skidoo · « **Reply #25 on:** August 04, 2003, 11:41:43 pm »

And as a postscript, if you want a great exhibit of this Geiss guy's aptitude, don't even mess with WinAmp. Just install Dremple and run it as your desktop wallpaper. You might want to take a Dramamine or two first.

sraymond · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2003, 07:30:45 am »

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OK... so what am I doing wrong? When I add the images, the visualization is set to "Images". Changing visualizations clears the images and I'm left with the default MC logo for the 3Dvis.

Scott-

Bump?

I've done a complete OS reinstalll (after formatting) and I still have the same trouble. Any ideas?

Scott-

sraymond · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2003, 07:11:52 pm »

Bump. Bump.

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Bump?

I've done a complete OS reinstalll (after formatting) and I still have the same trouble. Any ideas?

Scott-

LisaRCT · « **Reply #28 on:** August 11, 2003, 06:24:47 am »

I had an idea once . . . .
it gave me a headache

hit_ny · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2004, 01:58:28 pm »

I tried DxDiag and it passed the 3D tests.

How can i test what typeof stecil my graphics card has ?

JimH · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2004, 05:11:46 pm »

Make sure you have the latest DirectX 9.0. Do IE/Tools/Windows Update.

Matt · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2004, 05:15:25 pm »

Also get the latest drivers.

It's possible some older cards won't be able to do mixed 2D / 3D like MC uses.

urlwolf · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2004, 05:23:42 pm »

Damn, I cannot reboot my computer now to try all this...
When reboot was not required after installing new betas, I had more fun...

GHammer · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2004, 10:08:19 pm »

The file is not on the FTP server as of the time of this message.

Matt · « **Reply #34 on:** April 06, 2004, 10:15:44 pm »

This thread is really old.

The latest 3D visualizations are now included with Media Center 10.

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Author Topic: More w00t... (Read 6285 times)

nila

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Marko

fex

MachineHead

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phelt

sraymond

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sraymond

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LisaRCT