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Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« on: March 10, 2005, 05:25:29 pm »

We're still working on Media Center 11.  We appreciate your bug reports, but MC11 may not work as expected and we can't yet fully support it.  Some plugins still do not work.

If you want to use MC 11 while we're building it, PRICES are here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=23311

If you want a more trouble-free experience, please download Media Center 10 here:
http://www.jrmediacenter.com/download.html

Media Center 11 is available here:
[build removed by Matt -- there'll be a new build later today]

Important:  Please post only bugs you're sure about here.  Anything else and especially anything that requires an answer should be posted in a new thread with a subject like "MC11 problem with ..." or "MC11 question about ....".    Feature requests should be postponed until we've finished 11.0.  Thanks.  -- JimH

Recent Changes

11.0.211 (3/10/05)

1. Fixed: Pressing 'Back' on the toolbar above a webpage could cause MC to crash in some cases.
2. Fixed: Dropping files on a handheld view could cause a crash.
3. Changed: Showing track info pages with certain IE system sounds enabled could cause MC to play sounds when switching tracks.
4. Fixed: Switching skins would not properly update all views when using split views.
5. Fixed: Library field list in Options dialog could flicker when adding or removing fields.
6. Changed: Dropping files on an empty Playing Now Action Window honors the "Start playback when adding to Playing Now" option.
7. Fixed: In some cases, the on-screen display wouldn't stay on top of the current display.
8. NEW: Added option General > Behavior > Previous button to make the previous button work like a standard CD player.
9. NEW: Glass and Acajou Theater View skins work again.
10. Changed: Drop menus in Theater View use a width that matches the item they're dropping from.
11. Changed: Speed improvements for parsing mpl database file from Portable Devices.
12. NEW: Added Media Server program to start menu for running Library, TiVo, UPnP, etc. servers in the background.
13. NEW: Retooled database expression engine to be much more powerful. ( documentation here: http://www.jrmediacenter.com/DevZone/DBExpressions.htm )
14. NEW: Installer downloads and installs Windows Media Format runtimes during install only if system isn't up to date.
15. NEW: Encoder and transcoder settings have been upgraded.
16. Fixed: Transcoder settings on UPnP Server, TiVo Server, and Library Server now allow quality selection, and choosing arbitrary encoders as the target.
17. Fixed: The latest TiVo (7.1) now works.
18. Fixed: Mime types are correctly assigned for UPnP Server.
19. Fixed: International characters work with UPnP Server and TiVo Server.
20. Fixed: Browsing deep with UPnP Server now works (known problem for Roku, maybe others).
21. NEW: When dragging items, MC shows an alpha blended representation along with the drag. (not available on Win9x)

11.0.205 (3/4/05)

1. Changed: Updated MP3 input plugin options to store information in the newer registry location. (old settings will need to be remade)
2. NEW: On W2K and XP, drags into the player support shell alpha drag images.
3. Changed: Ripped DVD files (VOB) would not play properly over Media Server. (requires Tools > Update Tags (from librayr) on VOB files)
4. Changed: Library import "Get cover art" only gets cover art for files just imported. (instead of trying to re-run the whole database)
5. Changed: Some static controls would show ampersands as underlines.
6. Fixed: CD information submission system could flicker when drawing the track name list.
7. NEW: View header slideshow images follow the current selection. (instead of being for any random file in the view)

11.0.201 (2/28/05)

1. Changed: Improved 'Cancel' functionality of import / update library system.
2. NEW: Enhanced CD view header to show more appropriate information for blank, data, and other non-audio disc types.
3. Fixed: CD drives would not show up in the tree. (introduced in 200)

11.0.200 (2/28/05)

1. Fixed: Media Center could fail to install in some cases on a clean machine.
2. Fixed: After a file conversion, tags would not be saved to the new file.
3. Fixed: Some dynamically filled submenus could disappear quickly after appearing.
4. Changed: Internal queue for Portables has been revised.
5. Fixed: When starting MC in Playing Now, the current playback track wouldn't be visible.

MC 11 Improvements

CUE file playback support with sample-accurate MP3 seeking
Many Theater View enhancements
Animated Direct3D file browsing
Split views so you can look at two (or more) views at the same time (ex. look at Media Library and Playing Now together)
Vastly improved database engine capable of handling 100,000's of files and large amounts of metadata (lyrics, bios, etc.)
Several memory and speed enhancements -- like database and skin unloading when minimizing MC
Much of MC's interface can be translated to other languages
Integrated database import and update with smart broken linking repairing, and other nice features
MC can run with guest permissions on Windows 2000 / Windows XP
New view customization system with more flexibility for thumbnail size, text, etc.
Options dialogs reworked -- several small options added
Added multi-zone synchronization
Added Album Gain support
Document support with full text searching / indexing
Pane auto-sizing
Tile view that allows fully customizable Track Info style tiles to be used in file lists
New database caching layer that makes a huge speed difference in many areas of MC
File tagging happens in a background thread so MC can continue to be used while it's saving tags
Basic image editing
Enhanced album grouping for pictures so pictures taken together get grouped without any user intervention
Preview mode to only play the intro of songs
Video CD playback support
Audio resampling uses Shibatch's high-quality SSRC filters
Support for ATI HDTV card
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2005, 05:26:59 pm »

This build contains lots of new stuff, so you may want to sit this one out unless you're feeling adventurous.
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2005, 06:40:27 pm »

Thanks for yet another update!

Just tried the UPnP server and it still has the same isses as the last release, inluding one that was mentioned as "fixed".

1)  Wave files don't play, error message states that it's an "unsupported format" and is "not playable".  If I understand things correctly this is the mime type bug.  (MP3 conversion works OK, great job on adding the configuration options!)

2)  Transport functions (pause, FF, RW) don't work

3)  Alpha search does not work

On the plus side it seems like navigation speed is improved from the last release.  Also, image file serving seems to work well (with JPG at least).

A quick run through MC shows that evrything seems to work OK without any issues.

BTW, I'm using a Philips Streamium SL400i with a wired Ethernet connection.
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2005, 06:41:53 pm »

Nice Tivo!
I noticed it does not eject anymore after a burn.  I'm thinking that was a mistake.
I'll go test Tivo now.  Any chance HME is still being considered?
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2005, 07:53:41 pm »

I had trouble with the install, but I will tell you I chose to Un-Install v. 10 during this install.  i don't know why.  I've had both running in parallel, and every time it asks me if i want to Uninstall 10, so this time I did.  So the following may be tainted by that.

10 seemed to unstinstall fine.

I am pretty sure I closed everything down before I started.  The install finished and it said "do you want laund" which was checked and I said okay and it started but that dialog froze (the installation program froze).  So I was in MC and checking some stuff and something seemed off and I checked the version and it was sstill the previous.  Its like it had launched MC without finishing the install.  I brought up the process list and both MC and the MCinstall were running.  I had to crash out of the install.  I ran MC again and it was still old version.  I closed everthing, checked to see it was not running, and re-ran install and it was fine.  So perhaps my initial install ran when MC was running but I think you check for that.  It was all a bit off.  I usually have perfectly smooth installs.

-- I had crash probems when deleting files -- those seem to be gone, actually in the last version but i forgot to post.

-- going to test Tivo now  (EDIT:  Tivo works great for me, althoug a lot of warning messages - will post for John in the Tivo forum)

-- two plugins were uninstalled, PlayingNow and Audioscrobbler, others were not uninstalled. 

-- everything seems fine for me

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2005, 08:18:58 pm »


12. NEW: Added Media Server program to start menu for running Library, TiVo, UPnP, etc. servers in the background.




Okay, so i went to go explore this and clicked on the menu item "Media Server".  Music jumped to life (startling me!) and the PlayingNow plugin activated and I have a little media server icon in the task area.  But MC itself didnt launch.  Interesting.  Its running in the background I guess, as you say.

So I assume the music started b/c my Options have it start playing immediately, is there a /switch on the command line i could use to make the "Media Server" start quiet overriding the MC option which I want to keep?
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2005, 08:19:43 pm »

Carryover from 11.0.205 (unfixed):

Like MC 10, MC 11 has this same UI drawing bug:

The highlight bar in the Org Tree (left) is backwards in color depending on the Focus.  When Focused, it's dim...when not focused it's bright.  If you follow all the other windows, you'll see what I mean (when focused and not focused).  This very confusing when trying to figure out which window actually has the focus.

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Ctrl-2 does mini-me (not Escape as the tooltip says).  No more Ctrl-E?
Ctrl-3 does Windowed view

Ok...then the bug is the Tooltip for the Mini View toolbar icon (it says press Escape).

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MC11 crashes all over the place when trying to build a data CD burn list (of mp3s) during the manual rename of directory folder names.  I've tried to 10 times in a row to build this data CD with 8 folders and after I attempt to rename each folder, MC crashes on about the 2nd or 3rd rename everytime.  I tried saving the layout to disk to save my progress, but upon restore of a layout MC crashes too. 

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Dell DJ Plug-in v11.0.16 BUGS.
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2005, 08:25:34 pm »

Carryover from 11.0.205 (unfixed):

Like MC 10, MC 11 has this same UI drawing bug:

The highlight bar in the Org Tree (left) is backwards in color depending on the Focus.  When Focused, it's dim...when not focused it's bright.  If you follow all the other windows, you'll see what I mean (when focused and not focused).  This very confusing when trying to figure out which window actually has the focus.
I don't think that's a bug.  Try starting a new thread and explaining in more detail.  It could be skin related.
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Ctrl-2 does mini-me (not Escape as the tooltip says).  No more Ctrl-E?
Ctrl-3 does Windowed view

Ok...then the bug is the Tooltip for the Mini View toolbar icon (it says press Escape).
We'll fix this.
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MC11 crashes all over the place when trying to build a data CD burn list (of mp3s) during the manual rename of directory folder names.  I've tried to 10 times in a row to build this data CD with 8 folders and after I attempt to rename each folder, MC crashes on about the 2nd or 3rd rename everytime.  I tried saving the layout to disk to save my progress, but upon restore of a layout MC crashes too. 
Thanks.  We'll check it.

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 01:14:03 am »

*CUE FILE ISSUES*

- MC complains it can't tag CUE tracks when update tags on file changes is ticked. It should update the CUE files (text) directly.

- If an album with imported+analysed CUE tracks is moved (within MC) after import MC loses the address of those imported CUE tracks. THink about this, its lost the cue traks, a fix of broken links removes these items.. A move is a basic operation, MC should not be droping the ball on this.
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2005, 01:56:23 am »

1.   There is no ability to access common DVD commands (e.g. menu, change audio track, subtitles, etc.) by keypresses (or any other means that would allow a remote control to be used to while playing a DVD).  Without this, DVDs are not playable (for any practical purposes) in Theaterview.

2.   When playing a DVD in Theaterview the dialog that asks if you want to continue playing where you left off, pops up. This dialog is not implemented any differently in Theaterview and thus looks terrible. There is also no way to answer it using a remote.

3.   The removable field is not filled in when items are imported

4.   Bitrate field for all MPEG video files is shown as 165722112

5.   Using Drive&Devices, moving a file from under one of the My Network Places shortcuts to another can result in deletion of the file instead, i.e. it doesn’t appear in the new location it was to be moved to, but presumably MC thinks it has been copied and deletes it from the old location. This same problem does NOT occur when moving files in the Microsoft Windows Network part of the My Network Places tree.

6.   When moving photos to another location within “Drives and Devices” the photos are moved, but often the view of the folder the files were moved from is not updated properly (e.g. some of the moved files are still shown, but with an X through the thumbnail showing that the underlying file is no longer present). This occurs when moving files between network shares (where I keep my photos). I have not done detailed testing to determine whether this problem crops up in other contexts.

7.   Executing MJEXTMAN.EXE unminimizes Media Center.

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Local Directory as Handheld- Crash
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2005, 02:32:52 am »

I have a directory on a local drive that I use for transcoding.
I set this up in Options->Handheld
Path- D:\ToDo\Output
Name- TransCD
I checked Enable file conversion during uploads.
I chose MP3 Encoder
I clicked the Advanced button and set for Custom
I used --preset extreme --scale 1 for my command line.

Click OK and get back to MC.

I shut MC down and later ran it and chose some songs to send to the Handheld.
After a brief pause, nothing happened. No list, no indication of anything.

I clicked on Drives and Devices in the tree.
I see a quick "Analyzing Devices" window then I see the tree.
TransCD is shown.
If I click on it, I am returned to Start
If I right click on TransCD, MC simply crashes.
Faulting application media center.exe, version 11.0.211.0, faulting module media center.exe, version 11.0.211.0, fault address 0x001c2064.

I wanted to see if the directory was ok so I opened Handheld Options.

The encoding options are back to WMA
Even without the crash, the encoding options for handheld do not stick.


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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2005, 06:06:30 am »

With Build 211 I cannot encode mp3, wma, etc., with the mediacenter.exe and Enc_mp3.dll of build 205 fold it again a heavy BUG for me!
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2005, 08:40:54 am »

Bytestar - where are you using the encoder? Ripping, Burning? Library Server?

Thanks,

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2005, 09:04:18 am »

using for Ripping  ;)
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2005, 09:09:45 am »

What error message (exact text preferred)?

What version of those plugins (check plugin manager)?

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2005, 09:22:22 am »

BUG: Complete Album calculated field does not work for multiple album sets.

I have many of these - one example:  Jimmy Buffett - Meet Me in Margaritaville

This is a 2 disk set, fully tagged, both disks with a complete list of track numbers, the Disk number field used to differentiate the 2 disks.  However, Complete Album shows up as false unless I force the 2 disks to have different album names.

This will fail for most any box set etc, and screws up any query/viewscheme that is looking for complete albums. 
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2005, 09:23:29 am »

Clean install from Build 211

A picture says more than 1000 words:)



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MP3 Plugin - V2.0.129
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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2005, 09:29:10 am »

Under tools->plugin manager
click on Encoders, then MP3 plugin. What version does it show?

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2005, 09:29:54 am »

Under tools->plugin manager
click on Encoders, then MP3 plugin. What version does it show?

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2005, 09:36:34 am »

 ? OK, just installed this build and when I went to install it I clicked on Express Install by mistake. I normally click on custom.

Anyway, when it started up it said I had 30 days left of the trial. The copy I had installed before hand was a fully bought and paid for registered copy. I now have to restore a licence which will take one off my limit.

I use v10 full at home and testing 11 on laptop but I dont want to find out when the beta is over and I move over to the PC than i have no licences left.

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Re: Media Center 11.0.211 Beta Available
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2005, 09:47:39 am »

Install of build 211 failed on my Windows 2000 machine.  I currently have build 205, and I have installed dozens of v10 and v11 builds on this machines.  Right now, I only have v11 on this machine

1. Custom install
2. Downloading the Windows Media Format redist. Note, this is new.  No previous installs ever did this.
3. Get a message that installation of Windows Media files failed. Installation of Media Center can not continue.

No previous builds have done this, and I know this machine is fully up-to-date on all versions, sps, and updates.

I will try on my XP Pro machines this weekend.
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