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PhatPhreddy

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Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« on: September 20, 2002, 09:03:29 am »

OK I posted this over on the Monkeys forum as it is more relevent there but I am looking for a fast answer so here goes.... This is caused by my EAC / MA use but is evident in my MJ import...

Well I had just embarked on some major ripping... Thought I had my EAC / MA settings down but evidently not... I currently have 3 networked machines all ripping at once (just had broadband reconnected) so I am churning through albums by the minute... I have done about 30 in the last couple of hours...

I just imported some into Media Jukebox and realized the track order is only alphabetically by track name (screwing up my 01 - Trackname sequence... ) and further looking shows I have track names of 0 in all the track fields but the track # is in the comment field of the tag ? ! ? ! ?  In the comment it is listed as 'Track - 01' etc...

The filename is Num - Trackname eg \Jimmie Cliff\Higher and Higher\01 - Higher and Higher.APE but the import detects (correctly) only the name and orders by name alphabetically....

So firstly to stop this continueing, is this an EAC setting or a MA command line setting I have ballsed up ??

Also anyway to batch convert this as I have possibly 30 albums ripped in the last couple of hours and would like a way to rebuild the tags from the info thats there already ?? Can I copy the Track - 01 comment field and make that alphanumeric field purely a numeric track num ??

Thanks in advance... quick answers really welcome as the album list gets longer fast !!!
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2002, 09:26:33 am »

Check how you have sorting set in MJ under tree/view.
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2002, 09:37:03 am »

Tried that... However it seems it is a real bugger....

The way it has saved track inside the comment field is Track - 1 to Track - 9 and then Track 10.... EG it did not preceed the single digits with a 0x !!!

So when I sort on comment I get track 1 10 11 12 etc...

I suspect I could import and ignore tags but that would create its own hell too...

I was hopeing for a convert field x to x ability ?
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2002, 09:49:59 am »

I'm not sure I'm on the same page, but two things:

1) the "fill properties from filename" tool may bail you out

2) use the dll version of MAC in EAC, not the exe version

Hope that helps...
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2002, 10:11:31 am »

Yeah, like Matt said...

Use Fill Properties from Filename with a rule of

Directory : [ARTIST]\[ALBUM]

Filename : [TRACK #]-[NAME]

and that should do the trick.
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2002, 10:13:33 am »

OK well I have debugged how to stop it from here on in... I am still using MAC.EXE should I switch to the DLL ?? If so any particular reason ??

I needed to include a setting in EAC -> Compression -> Lat Tab (Tagging) which was to use BOTH idv1.1 and IDv2 tags...

Still need to fix the ones I have done tonight though...
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2002, 10:22:55 am »

DLL MAC allows on the fly ripping for better performance.

And DO NOT add ID3v2 tags to your APE files -- it will ruin them.
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2002, 10:32:59 am »

DOH...

And it seemed to work so well... What is 'ruined' about them ?? I have just listened and on my PC speakers there is nothing obvious but I am not downstairs where I can check anything (little 1 inch asatellite jobbies here)...

That fixed the track problems too !!!!  :-/
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2002, 10:35:59 am »

Is there something we can do in MAC to remove id3v2 tags and replace them with APE tags?
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2002, 10:46:52 am »

PP,
Did you try ripping with MJ?
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2002, 10:49:42 am »

Well I am unsure how 'broken'they really are (perhaps  as i am doing 1.1 AND 2.0 tags then MAC only listens to the 1.1 info ??) Either way when I look at the MAC properties after I have a rip using this system it looks fine...

Is the file sonically impared ? I am guessing no...

The tagging looks fine to my layperson eyes....

Tonight I have ripped more than 50 albums (many double too) having 2 real machines and roping in my laptop too when not surfing (yeah whens that ??)... i have alittle tidying to do but my APE library is rapidly growing... I delayed till the broadband was here but now is the time....  
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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2002, 10:57:18 am »

Yeah I have tried MJ in the past....

I had more poor rips in the few I used (not enough to make a true test base I fully admit) and was not truly happy with the album artist structural deal (though again am sure I could have set a different system)...

I though I understood APL structures but found out this evening that my assumptions on that was wrong..

Ideally I want a single file for the whole album and a index file to allow nnavigation... like a compressed version of CUE and WAV... I though this is what the 'make APL'tool did but I am buggered if I can get it performing a index that works.. MJ always says please point to the file or similar...

As a compromise tommorow I will use one machine EAC and one MJ and see if I gain another preference...

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Re: Can MJ halp me fix the mess I made :-)
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2002, 11:04:10 am »

OK let me just make one last comment on one of the things that failed me before (my better half is calling and its 2AM so I am officially 'outta here')...

When ripping with MJ the Artist is not the CD artist as EAC does it... it tends to find Artists on a track by track basis and break many of my mix albums up... i have seen many people discuss this and options considered but EAC alsways seems to rip \CD Artist\CD Name\Num - Track name With the strings I set up... MJ will make loads of sub folders with 'various' artist albums....

Throw me a clue on that one and I will resume with one MJ machine first thing....

now in the best words of Hitchock... Good Evening....   ;D
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