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antenna

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Theater view, audio, question
« on: January 03, 2018, 08:47:40 pm »

Here's the scenario...

I'm listening to music via a Windows MC client.  I'm in theater view, audio.

I am about halfway through a song, and I want to start the song over from the beginning.  So I press the back arrow key on the remote and I go back to the beginning of the song, and it starts playing again.

My question:  from the point in the middle of the song to the beginning of the song, there is a fade down / fade up overlap.

Is there any way I can get more of a gap and remove the fading?

I've seen the option under Audio that allows me to specify gap length and fading, but that does not seem to have an effect.

Am I missing another option?

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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 10:46:06 am »

I found a partial solution to this.  For starters, i was looking at the incorrect config parameter.  I was looking in the Audio section at the Track Change set of parameters.  The parameters that seem to affect this use case are the Stop, Seek & Skip set of parameters.

I changed Seek to Standard, Stop to Immediate, and Pause to Immediate.

The fade-out/fade-in and the overlap are gone.

Now it works as I would like except for the loss of the first note of the song

So now my question becomes --- is there a way to insert some manner of pause in the sequence?

Currently, the sequence that occurs when I am playing a song and press the back-tab button is:
-- stop playing, seek to the beginning of the song, start playing

I'd like to be able to set it up to:
-- stop playing, seek to the beginning of the song, pause a bit, start playing

Is there an option for that pause that I'm missing?

thx.

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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 10:58:56 am »

MC has an option to "Play leading silence".

The options page has a search window.
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 11:48:16 am »

Thanks for the reply.

I see the option, "Do not play silence (leading and trailing)," is that the one you're referring to?

I have it unchecked.

I'm attaching a screen shot of the audio options page with my current settings, if that is helpful.

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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 12:11:36 pm »

It isn't that option.  Please search.
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 02:46:01 pm »

Jim,
The Options search window doesn't return anything worded "Play leading silence".
Is it perhaps called something else? Maybe "Play silence at startup for hardware...", which is the closest that I get?
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 02:48:25 pm »

The option is called Do not play silence (leading and trailing). It's under MC's Options > Audio section.
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 02:55:01 pm »

I believe Jim is referring to:
Options > Audio > Settings > Play silence at startup for hardware synchronization
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 12:22:06 pm »


Sorry for dropping out yesterday, life happened and I had other things I had to do.

I tried the search suggested, "Play leading silence" (without the quotes).  That returned no results.

So I just tried searching on "silence" (again, without the quotes).  That returned two hits: "Play silence at startup" and "Do not play silence (leading and trailing)."

I have the checkbox for "Do not play silence (leading and trailing)" unchecked, so that the silence would be played.

For the option, "Play silence at startup...," I set it to 5 seconds.  Here's what I see occurring...

- when I'm in Standard view and double click on a song, there's a 5 second wait before the song starts to play, as expected.

- while the song is playing, if I press back-tab to start over from the beginning of the song, there is no 5 second delay, i.e., the song starts replaying immediately, and I lose the first note or two.

If the "Play silence at startup" option could be brought to the "back-tab, start over" action, I think (in my newbie viewpoint) that would help solve the issue I'm seeing.

Or maybe there's another option I'm missing?

thx.



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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 12:24:35 pm »

Try changing the Seek option under Stop, Seek & Skip from Gapless to Standard and see if that helps. Also you might need to uncheck Use gapless for manual track changes too.
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Re: Theater view, audio, question
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 12:49:06 pm »



I already have that setting at "Standard."

I'm attaching a screenshot of my current audio settings, if that helps...
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