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And this is why I love MC so much - If enough people in the polls on the forum would like a feature, they'll answer the cry for it. I challenge Microsoft to try beat that with their WMP.

Two interfaces for the same thing is bad.  It makes the program more confusing and more difficult to keep bug free.

If there are ways to improve the dialog system, we're all ears.

Hi all,
I just bought into Version 10, Ithought the orignal method was very efficient and easy to use. I liked it as you could change very quickly and on the fly.
How would having "Remove/Add Move left and right on the top level and then advanced options for more detailed work sound.
Cheers Tangodude

Here's another vote for both systems :)

Though I can see how it could be a little confusing for a few beginners... they see two things that seem to do the same thing and wonder what's different.  Maybe this is one for a 'Beginners/Advanced' option... Beginners would only get the dialog, Advanced would get both, same with the Customize View dialog and other facets of MC.

As I mentioned elsewhere, it depends on what on is doing, or how one is sitting, as to which way is faster... so it's better having more options. [eg I use click/drag with the ctrl key to copy files, but also use all the these: ctrl-ins/shift-ins, ctrl-c/ctrl-v, shift-f10/c shift-f10/p, right click/copy rightclick/paste and right-click/dragdrop/copy - depending on how I feel or whether my hands are on the keyboard or mouse... that's a lot of options :) Some people I know just settle on the one they like and ignore the rest.] (I understand there is a slight difference here though, as options don't coexist on the same menu.)

I would offer a better idea if I had one, but I think the rightclick/add column is often the most efficient way for me.  As for 'move left/move right'... it would be a lot easier (and more consistent) if the pane columns could just be dragged left and right with the left mouse button like the view columns [ since they look the same, and having the left and right mouse buttons do the same thing as they do now seems a waste :) ].

Um, yeah sure, uh huh  

 

Um, yeah sure, uh huh  

 

OT but thanks for this comment Lisa - this has just become my MSN nick name:

Um, Yeah, Sure! un huh, Right! ^o)

I like the new way much better...Edit view scheme (and Customize view for columns) is easier, faster, all in one place and more organized (straight forward).  The old method was cumbersome (always right clicking...a big pain).

I could not agree with you more. There is absolutely no way I want to lose the new view scheme setup dialogue. No Way.

Now and again though, I could looking at any given VS and wish I could see, say, the comment field, just to check/look for something, then remove the comment field once done with it.

For me, this is where the right click menu comes into it's own. It makes it so quick and simple. Without it, I find one of two things happen here....
1. The process of adding the pane, then removing it when done would take longer than actually checking the info I want, so, "yeah, it would have been nice to know, but I'm not that bothered" so I don't bother, but as I move away from it, it hit's me that I really miss that right click menu

2. The process of adding the pane, then removing it when done would take longer than actually checking the info I want, but, "I really need to know, so better launch that dialogue" All the way through the process, right up to OK'ing the removal of the pane, it hit's me that I really miss that right click menu

My point is, that the VS dialogue is a great tool for setting up the view scheme in the first place. We set view schemes that we use most commonly, but never in a month of sundays could you set one for absolutely every occasion. Why build a view scheme you'd maybe only use once in 6 months?
That right click menu was a great tool for tweaking, temporarily or otherwise, an existing view scheme. That's why I miss it. To that end, does anyone see a problem with the proposal below (if it's even possible?)

Task - Create new View Scheme ---> View Scheme dialogue is the only path to do this
Task - Modify View Scheme ---> right click pane headers, have previous options + 1 to open the dialogue if preferred. Right click view scheme in the tree, "Edit" always pops the dialogue box.

Last time, OK....
I'm not proposing an either/or scenario here, I want both. Yup, like most guys, I not only want to have my cake, but I want to eat it too
I'm willing to bet that the peeps who voted "No" did so in the belief that this was an either/or debate. Which would bounce their votes to one of the other options, and, not that I'm biased or anything, I reckon they'd be yes!! :D

any more thoughts regarding this Matt?

So, basically, what you're saying is that for now, you're working on your own list of priorities atm and the users are not being listened to.

Apologies if that sounds a tad blunt, but that does seem to be your drift. As you won't say what it is that comes before us humble users just now, I can't comment. I just hope it's worth the wait, that's all.

I think for now, I'll drop back to v9.1 and watch v10 from a distance. At least it has a local start page, unlike v10 which still sports a "phone home" start page.

Just a thought here, but it would be nice if your online shop is totally configurable, ie. it's not on by default, and can be turned off and it stays off, like forever.

So, basically, what you're saying is that for now, you're working on your own list of priorities atm and the users are not being listened to.

No.  What I said was that we had a list of priorities and that some user requests were on it.

If you will take a look at the list of requests compiled by JLee and NoCodeUK, it is a long list.  Some will make it into V10.  Many won't.

We have other work going on that will become apparent in a few months.  Much of it involves user interface issues.