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lpr

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2004, 11:17:40 am »

Who is the author of the Audioscrobbler plugin?

I may have found a bug with it and the webmasters of Audioscrobbler would like to contact him to start a forum for some Media Center / Audioscrobbler plugin support.

Thanks.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2004, 02:35:51 pm »

I installed it succesfully with the pre-release procedure (register, etc). Now, if you go to the MC plugins page, it is packaged as all the other plugins (.mjp). However, it doesn't work anymore, the plugin is not in the plugins list...
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2004, 02:45:18 pm »

Never touch a running system ;).

But who is the author?
(By the way: Thanks!)
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2004, 02:58:53 pm »

I'm guessing everyone's gotten this far, but in the plug-in, it says it was created by Simon George.  There's a webpage, but it doesn't actually go anywhere.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2004, 08:56:20 pm »

It's a cool idea. Too bad these guys don't have the resources to implement it. I can't sign up for a new account. "Database maintenance."

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2004, 08:15:18 am »

I went to version 11 of MC and then back to v10... now I cant get the audioscrobbler plugin to show up anymore.

Oh well.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2004, 07:20:51 pm »

They are putting new servers online this weekend and had a planned outage.  They hope to be back online "by the end of the weekend".  Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2004, 03:02:45 am »

i hear lots of raving about this plugin.

Has anyone been able to use it properly ?

What are the results like ?

or do we have to wait till it gets "trained" till we see any results.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2004, 01:16:57 pm »

i hear lots of raving about this plugin.

Has anyone been able to use it properly ?

What are the results like ?

or do we have to wait till it gets "trained" till we see any results.

It works as it should, though to get full benefit you have to have listened to at least 100 songs.  Otherwise it's too small a sample to build a "neighborhood".

-Doug
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2004, 02:00:29 pm »

Worked great for me 'til they had their big bang last week (they lost some files I suppose).

It's very interesting to see the results and watch your neighbour's taste. You will find your own music with a few more (maybe) unknown bands worth listening to. And the neigbours change the more tracks you're playing - with the broadband of your taste.

It's worth trying it.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2004, 06:12:53 pm »

It updated today with songs in my most recently played list that I have not played in a long while.  Odd.

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« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2004, 10:08:09 pm »

Their website is back up and I can log into my account there, but my songs are gone.  Looks like they lost about 1200 profiles.  Oh well, I only had about 130 songs in there anyway. :)

My plugin is not able to connect at the moment.  Not sure if this is because of a Scrobbler problem, or if it is related to the new version of 11.  My guess is that it's an issue with the website.

There was some mention that they had to revert to a backup from Wednesday.  That may be why some older songs are showing up.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2004, 01:24:32 pm »

You know what would be really great?
MC counts how many times you play each song.
I have been using MC for a long time now, longer than audioScrobbler has been existing probably.
If we could dump our MC counts into our audioScrobbler profiles, the recommendations would be really accurate!

Anyone understands the innards of audioScrobbler well enough to say if this is possible?

Thanks
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« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2004, 02:00:35 pm »

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2004, 11:41:12 pm »

i hear lots of raving about this plugin.

Has anyone been able to use it properly ?


Doesn't work for me, possibly bcos of my proxy server getting in the way. The plugin doesn't allow you to configure your proxy.

-Matt
Listening to: 'Go' from 'Playmate Of The Year' by 'Zebrahead' on Media Center 10
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2004, 06:56:54 am »

Would anyone be interested if I added this to PlayingNow?
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2004, 07:15:00 am »

Hi Rhino,

What exactly would you add to PN?

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2004, 08:50:19 am »

When a track is played according to the audioscrobbler rules I would log it to the website.   I see it as a natural extension to the logging capability already build within PN.
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« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2004, 09:05:19 am »

I am not sure if it is worth your time... MC will do this with the plugin that was released.

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2004, 09:10:44 am »

Fair enough, I just thought that people would rather have one an "all-in-one" solution rather than running multiple plugins that do almost the same thing.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2004, 09:12:08 am »

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Would anyone be interested if I added this to PlayingNow?

Yea, the addition of a quality Audioscrobbler plug-in to PlayingNow would cause me to buy Playing Now.

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #72 on: August 27, 2004, 09:14:26 am »

Ok, I'll start on it later.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2004, 11:30:02 pm »

Rhino,

It would be great if you could make it somewhat user configurable.  Let the user select what % of a song must be played before sending the data.  Perhaps use MC's own song tracking to send the data (as suggested above by someone).

It could be a great addition.  Thanks.

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2004, 11:58:52 pm »

Here are the rules as defined by AudioScrobbler:

1) Each song should be posted to the server when it is 50% or 240 seconds complete, whichever comes first.
2) If a user seeks (i.e. manually changes position) within a song before the song is due to be submitted, submission should be cancelled.
3) Songs with a duration of less than 30 seconds, or more than 30 mimutes should not be submitted.


I'll add in overrides but don't be too suprised if the tracks don't get submitted.   Personally I think #3 sucks because I listen to tracks over 30 minutes all the time :(

Oh, and by the way it's almost done :D
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2004, 03:17:57 pm »

rhino... i would use that in PN too.  Good idea.


others -- having trouble connecting to AS today -- perhaps a firewall issue.  Does AS plugin use the Proxy settings from IE or just no proxy support?

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2004, 03:26:42 pm »

Just waiting for a client id from the guys so I can do my final testing.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2004, 09:47:12 pm »

RhinoBanga

good good, looking forward to this. i tried the scrobbler plugin but that doesnt work, then went to the site and found that someone has already taken the username 'pipsqueak'... am well fed up now!

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« Reply #78 on: September 11, 2004, 07:06:44 am »

Hi - well, at last I have found this thread !  I'm the audioscrobbler plugin author so now you know who to flame ;)  Been a bit busy so not had much time to follow up on this - although I do check the audioscrobbler site for comments.  

Feedback so far seems pretty good - thanks.  Some of you seem to have had problems installing the thing : not really sure why - initially I think it was a MC packaging problem 'cos they just uploaded the ZIP and not the MJP info I gave them : hence all this regsvr32 stuff !  If the MJP doesn't work then I'm not sure why - seems to work on a couple of XP machines I've tried it with.

The problems I've seen people mention are :

- it submits video files as well as audio
  - I'll fix this, but I can't find a way to ask MC about the file type
    (only the extension) so I'm gonna go for a solution where you
    can tell it the extensions to use when submitting.  Not very nice,
    so if anyone knows a better way...

- it sometimes submits the wrong artist.
  - I use the album artist method in the MC interface - not too clear
    what I *should* be using (interface docs are pretty poor in places)
    so I'll try a few things.

- auto-login
  - next version will have an option to disable this which will be useful
    for people on dialup connections.

- various other problems which are largely to do with the audioscrobbler
  site itself having the problems that people have mentioned.  The plugin
  only submits info to AS - what they do with that info is up to them.

So, I'm working on v0.2 - any other suggestions or problems I've missed ?

Also, do you think it's worth me continuing with it if RhinoBanga is
integrating AS into his Playing Now plugin ?

Thanks for the feedback,

Simon
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2004, 08:25:02 am »

I prefer you plugin. Partly 'cause RhinoBingo charge for playing now. I don't like pop-ups either. No offence RhinoBingo, I think your program is great and I used to use the upload feature, but pop ups just aren't my cup of tea.

Sime, for some reason the plugins dosen't work with MC11 -- at least at my computer.  Could you reupload the mjp?

Anyway great plugin I haven't had any problems  
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2004, 10:54:01 am »

Also, do you think it's worth me continuing with it if RhinoBanga is
integrating AS into his Playing Now plugin ?

Definately as choice benefits everyone.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2004, 11:22:19 am »

Hello,


I'm running sime_george's plugin, and I'm very happy with it. Just need to check this "various artists" situation  ;).

Simon, please continue development on your plug-in, it's great.

I'm using MC on a HTPC with TheaterView... I have no taskbar running, therefore I'm not using something like PlayingNow.

Take care,
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2004, 11:34:03 am »

Simon,
On behalf of JRiver and the MC community, thanks very much.  I think audioscrobbler is a very cool idea, and we're happy to be part of it (thanks to you).

Jim Hillegass
CEO, JRiver


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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2004, 02:16:20 pm »

Yes, Simon, I use it too and it's great. Keep up the good work... :D
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2004, 02:24:24 pm »

I am using the audioscrobbler standalone plugin as well, and would also like to say thanks, I have had absolutely no problems with it.  Great work.
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2004, 08:04:01 pm »

Simon,
I second you continue work on the plugin, since I don't wanna pay for PlayingNow.

I was using it with MC 11 and it didn't work then.

I've since reverted to MC 9.1. The install doesn't work when downloading the plugin. I think it might be a problem with the .mjp file J river generates for your plugin.

Perhaps you need to be more verbose - I'm not sure if *.* will work; you may need to specify each file.

I would have thought you would have to explicitly copy the MCScrobbler.dll to the plugin dir and then register that too. eg:
File2=MCScrobbler.dll
File2Action1=COPY_PLUGINDIR
File2Action2=REGISTER

So I hacked an install myself.

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Anyway, the plugin doesn't work for me. As I said in a previous post, maybe I need to specify my proxy settings. The winamp plugin allows me to specify proxy settings, and that works.

Your plugin says "Submitting song info" but it never appears on my audioscrobbler page (but winamp entries do).

-Matt
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #86 on: September 13, 2004, 06:35:28 am »

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but somehow i can't install the AS plugin. If i click on the link, i choose "open with Media Center". MC downloads the plugin and gives me confirmation that the plugin has been installed sucessfully.
If check in MC's plugin-Manager however and don't see any Audioscrobbler plugin  ?
I also checked in the plugins directory - nothing.

Can anybody help me out? is something wrong with the install package?

TIA, Tabalooga
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« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2004, 10:55:36 am »

OK !  Version 0.2 has now been released and is ready for download  :D

Just to re-iterate, I have only tested this on MC version 10 (as specified when submitting the plugin).  I haven't got v11 yet as it's still in Beta and to be honest probably won't support v11 until it's finally released.

New in this version :

 - bug fixes (including correct artist !)
 - proxy support (hopefully !)
 - more configuration options

Let me know how you get on.

Cheers,

Simon
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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2004, 02:54:11 pm »

I removed .1 and installed .2 (it reported installed successfully but It doesn't show up in MC10.  I did a search for the mcscrobbler.dll file and it doesn't appear on my HD.  All I have is the the old dll dated 8-12-2004.  Where is the .mjp file place the dll file?

TIA

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« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2004, 03:15:40 pm »

Should be in C:\Program Files\J River\Media Jukebox\Plugins

(I assume you have windoze configured to show hidden & system files as it may be treating the DLL as one)

These install problems are very strange !  Works for me and at least 2 others I know.  Anyone have any ideas ?  MJP file is now :

[Package]
Name=AudioScrobbler
Action=UNZIPDIR
Version=0.2.0
URL=mcscrobbler.zip

[Action]
File1=*.*
File1Action1=COPY_PLUGINDIR
File2=MCScrobbler.dll
File2Action1=REGISTER

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Re:www.Audioscrobbler.com
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2004, 03:21:26 pm »

Yes, I see all the other .dll files.  

I picked the url from the .mjp file and opened the .zip file and extracted the contents into the plugins folder.  I tried to add the plugin but it doesn't show up after clicking open.  

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« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2004, 03:33:54 pm »

Did you try just executing the mjp file?

Double click on it.  It does more than unzip and move files.
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« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2004, 03:34:44 pm »

After copying down the mcscrobbler.dll file and registering it manually it appears to be working.  I had to perform the same procedure as .1.  

Thank you  for coding this plugin.  I really love using audioscrobbler.

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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2004, 03:47:55 pm »

Did you try just executing the mjp file?

Double click on it.  It does more than unzip and move files.

That's what I tried orginally and it said it was successful.  But nothing updated in my plugins folder.  I've successfully installed other .mjp packages with the same system.

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« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2004, 05:11:10 pm »

Ok, this is an error that I get often with V0.1:
Your plugin reported a submission error: Spam protection triggered - submission dated earlier than previous submissions. (at 13:42:20 GMT, Monday, September 13, 2004)

I'm not home yet, but will try v0.2 as soon as I get there...
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« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2004, 06:56:22 pm »

I downloaded and installed the new version on the MC plugins page.. .0.2.0 and when I go into the Plugin Manager it says that the version # is 1.0.0

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« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2004, 07:47:31 pm »

I would like to upgrade to v.2 of the plugin but the mjp doesn't work for me, neither did .1 i just registered it manually.  Is there any chance of someone linking to the zip file like was done for the original version.

Thanks,
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« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2004, 08:25:39 pm »

Can someone post a link to version .2?  The Audioscrobbler site only shows version .1 here: http://www.audioscrobbler.com/download.php#J.%20River%20Media%20Center

Thanks.

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« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2004, 09:52:05 pm »

You can download version 2 from the MC plugins page. Make sure you select version "10."

You can get the package directly by clicking here
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« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2004, 11:10:39 pm »

You can download version 2 from the MC plugins page. Make sure you select version "10."

You can get the package directly by clicking here

I installed that one, and in the plugins manager, it says v 1.0.0.
How come?
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