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New_Shoes

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Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« on: January 31, 2003, 07:55:09 pm »
If so, where is the function located?


Thanks in advance,
Barry
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2003, 07:46:08 am »
By default ( in v8 ), burn mode is either TAO (most likely) or DAO. There is no option to switch between the two. There also is no option to leave the disk open (it will always finalize the CD...in other words, no multi-session capabilities). MC v9 has (or will have) a far superior burn engine.

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2003, 05:55:50 am »
To expand on that a little, with version 8 when you have the "use generic burner" checked, it always uses TAO. When this is unchecked, MJ uses DAO for audio burns and TAO for data burns.
If this checkbox is disabled and always checked, you are probably running WinNT/2000/XP and don't have ASPI installed. See the FAQ for how to install ASPI. The other possibility is your burner is only supported by the generic burning engine in MJ.

MJ 8 will do multi-session with data CD burns, but is always single session with audio burns.

Media Center 9 always uses DAO single-session for audio burns and TAO multi-session for data burns. It doesn't require any ASPI installation.
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2003, 06:01:52 am »
thanks for your comments....

Now let me follow-up the DAO question with...
Is DAO what I'm looking for to burn an entire CD as one track to share in album form at WINmx?

I've searched the net for 2 hours looking for an answer but I couldn't find it......

Thanks from a rookie,
Barry
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JohnT

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2003, 06:22:11 am »
I don't know anything about Winmx, but in order to use MJ to burn an entire album as one track, you'd have to have a single file on your disk that contains the entire album. If this is the case, either DAO or TAO will burn it as a single track.
However, DAO is considered superior for burning audio CD's in most cases. It's the "standard" way to do it.

Possibly what you mean is that you want to burn the whole album as one "session" rather than one track. In that case, DAO is the best way to go and you don't need to have the whole album in one file.
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2003, 04:52:15 pm »

I don't know anything about Winmx as well.......
but are you sure you need to BURN a cd or to RIP a cd to do what you want to do?
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2003, 11:58:23 pm »
WinMX is just another of the myriad of P2P programs for sharing music. I think "New_Shoes" is just looking for a way to rip the whole album in a way that can be downloaded whole at the other end, and ready to burn.
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Now isn't this just typical of whereever this is?

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2003, 12:37:59 am »
Did you see the ...............
I know what is Wimx
Because of it i am sure he messed around with words
TO RIP and no TO BURN
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2003, 05:07:51 am »
Yes...he must want a 1 track rip for the entire CD. Can't be done in MJ. Can be done (easily) in EAC. I composed a couple of ballads for JohnT in the past on this subject. I had hoped to swoon him, but I think the beat overwhelmed the lyrics, and the message was lost.

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2003, 05:25:16 am »
Beside the p2p aspect ,it is of great help when you have US live albums with silence between songs.
You can rip the full cd as one song without break .
Assuming you do not use mp3 format to do it ,of cause.
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2003, 09:59:01 am »
Z > You can rip the full cd as one song without break .
Assuming you do not use mp3 format to do it ,of cause

It has nothing to do with the target format. There is (simply) no way to tell MJ/MC NOT to split into individual tracks when ripping a CD. You can disable track splitting ONLY when you do a line-in record. I've harped on this for a LONG time.

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zevele10

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2003, 10:33:00 am »
mp3 is not good for long files , it is what i mean.
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2003, 10:54:23 am »
Hate to pull your chain again Z but...

Song length has no bearing on encoding quality.

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zevele10

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2003, 11:55:51 am »
it's fine with me.

But i saw in many forums that mp3 cannot stand long files.
I do not remember why .
But you may be right as well
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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2003, 05:38:42 pm »
hello again group,

Wiley and xen are correct in what I wish to do...

As Wiley said, ""New_Shoes" is just looking for a way to rip the whole album in a way that can be downloaded whole at the other end, and ready to burn."

And xen-uno said, "Yes...he must want a 1 track rip for the entire CD."

That is correct....

Now Uno, you said there is a way with EAC...
As a rookie, I have no idea what EAC is...?

Could you or somebody please share with me how to do the one track rip of an CD?

Thanks,
Barry

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2003, 06:58:33 pm »
EAC = Exact Audio Copy (do a search on the net for it)

There's a bit of set up involved but it will do these all track - one file rips. There is a EAC forum that can help get you started. Many people here are very familiar with the program as well.

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I wouldn't publicly state your intent for the end use of the files. RIAA may be watching and open (music) file sharing discussions aren't too cool here.
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New_Shoes

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Re: Can MJ do "disc-at-once?"
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2003, 10:46:26 am »
xen-uno, thanks......EAC is working just fine with the help of their forum group!!!

Cheers,
Barry
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