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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #300 on: June 25, 2020, 07:39:50 am »

Yes, it works on the RPi 4.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #301 on: June 25, 2020, 07:53:07 am »

Yeah, it runs on the Raspberry Pi 4.

Has the latest MC26 beta video changes been pushed to the IdPi yet? If so, video should be working pretty well now.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125409.0.html
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #302 on: June 25, 2020, 09:57:26 am »

Yeah, it runs on the Raspberry Pi 4.

Has the latest MC26 beta video changes been pushed to the IdPi yet? If so, video should be working pretty well now.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125409.0.html
No it hasn't.
The Pi builds are on 26.0.80. We only update the Id's with the most stable builds. We'll put out a notice when that happens.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #303 on: June 27, 2020, 09:09:30 am »

Hi, I have a problem. I replaced my wireless router yesterday and can’t get my id pi to work now.

It boots and loads MC, the menu loads and then MC quits. 26.0.80 is the version

When I go to menu and try to update wireless, I go to network manager (13), I get an error pop up -

Could not connect to wicd’s d-bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages.

Click ok and 2nd message: error connecting to wicd service by d-bus. Please ensure the wicd service is running.

At this point I need some help/advice.

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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #304 on: June 27, 2020, 09:40:24 am »

Well figured out what to do, though it shouldn’t be this hard?

I had to reconnect my old router (in ap mode), reboot the pi, then change the network to new wireless, and then all is good.

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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #305 on: June 28, 2020, 05:47:07 pm »

Good to hear you figured things out.

If I can, I work with cable network connections for headless gear like the Id / IdPi.

With wireless, your IdPi was probably looking for the old router's SSID and my bet is that this changed when you changed routers. Maybe the access code had changed as well?

The Id uses a Linux platform, so it wouldn't surprise me if for security reasons, it limits a client device being able to just easily jump on a router's coat tails. Not sure what the Devs can do to get around that sort of base system issue?
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #306 on: June 28, 2020, 08:10:29 pm »

On current versions of the Id, if there isn't a network connection, after a couple of minutes it will present itself as a wireless network so you can easily configure the wireless interface from a phone or pad. Network Manager can't run when the Id is in this mode (accesspoint mode) which is why you had issues configuring it from the GUI.

Other than using your phone, you can temporarily plug in the ethernet cable and reboot it so that it gets an address. Then you can access network manager.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #307 on: June 30, 2020, 06:03:07 pm »

bob, thanks for that phone tip. I think I'll check that out for fun so I'm ready if I ever have a need.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #308 on: July 07, 2020, 11:05:23 am »

It still needs to get HDMI data from the receiver.
One thing you might try is to run option 17 on the text menu.
There is an option in there to force the audio to use the hdmi port.
Make sure that your audio device setting in MC is set to hw:CARD=ALSA:DEV=1 .... HDMI ...
Thanks for the explanation. I was not able to get audio from id pi to my device via HDMI output. The only things that changed to affect my setup was a software update. I followed these instructions and audio is now outputting correctly. It took me a while to find a relevant post, but the end result is tunes where I need them. Thanks
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #309 on: October 07, 2020, 07:49:15 am »

I'm not particularly interested in ordering a physical media from the US when it's just a piece of software. Is there any way to get a hold of the image for the IdPI, for etching onto my own microSD? Either by a license fee or rather not?
I run various other streaming software but would like to give this a chance too...
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #310 on: October 08, 2020, 05:55:15 am »

Same here. I would like to purchase the Id software, but prefer to download it rather than having a physical microSD shipped. Is that possible?
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« Reply #311 on: October 08, 2020, 06:52:05 am »

As far as I know, no, they don't offer image downloads and only offer physical micro SD cards for the IdPi.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #312 on: October 08, 2020, 06:57:27 am »

I have not seen it anywhere either, as of yet. But to quote Jim in an earlier post:

We ship it on a card so it can be inserted in a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B and just boot.  We may make it available to download in the future.

That was August 30, 2016, so one could consider this the future  ;D
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #313 on: October 08, 2020, 08:07:19 am »

Same here. I would like to purchase the Id software, but prefer to download it rather than having a physical microSD shipped. Is that possible?
We don't offer it as a download.  Sorry.

You could download the Linux version of MC, but you'd need a Linux or Master License, and you'd need to be able to update it on your own.

The Id has the advantage of being "plug and play".  Easy to set up.  Automatically updated.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #314 on: October 08, 2020, 08:17:30 am »

That's a real pity. I already have a Master license for some time and had it installed in a VM as an experiment. But I like the "plug and play" and ease of setup of Id. Unfortunately I have had some bad experiences with overseas shipments. That's why I hoped a download could be made available.

How about I pay first and then you send me a temporary download link? Is that something to consider?
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #315 on: October 08, 2020, 08:46:35 am »

I have an IdPi. I tried to make a backup emergency copy of the card like I do for all my Sd cards (HomeSeer, Other Pi Units, Photos, etc.) The IdPi card won't copy. I used more than one imaging piece of software to try to get a copy for emergencies. They all stopped at trying to copy the same sector. Barring a defective card, it may just be that J.R. has copy protected the card in some manner to prevent piracy. Which is likely why there is no download of the software available.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #316 on: October 08, 2020, 09:05:41 am »

That's a real pity. I already have a Master license for some time and had it installed in a VM as an experiment. But I like the "plug and play" and ease of setup of Id. Unfortunately I have had some bad experiences with overseas shipments. That's why I hoped a download could be made available.

How about I pay first and then you send me a temporary download link? Is that something to consider?
No. Sorry.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #317 on: October 17, 2020, 05:01:08 pm »

Just received my SDMicro card, popped it in my eagerly awaiting Pi 3B+ and I get a video warning that says, "Input Signal Out of Range, change to 1600 x 900 60 Hz"

I get that, but not sure how to arrange things from a blank screen.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #318 on: October 17, 2020, 06:49:20 pm »

Your Pi and its display have a problem.  Does it work with anything else?  What is the Pi using for a display?

It's possible to set up the Id without a display by using Panel.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #319 on: October 18, 2020, 08:29:48 am »

Okay, moved to another monitor. All working. iD is seen on network. From another computer running MC 26 I can send files (songs) to iD. See them on iD. When hit play MC briefly “loads” each song, but doesn’t play them.

Hoping to use iD as a renderer. Am I missing something?

Thanks
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #320 on: October 18, 2020, 09:16:08 am »

Try playing in the opposite direction, just as a test.  On the Id, load the library from your other machine.  Play locally.  Does that work?

What are you playing to from the Id?  How is it connected.  What kind of files?
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #321 on: October 18, 2020, 11:10:22 am »

Updated network connections. All systems go, but no audio output.

Using USB to Benchmark DAC.

But, also no output to 3.5 Jack.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #322 on: October 18, 2020, 12:43:19 pm »

Try the opposite direction to confirm audio setup works.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #323 on: October 18, 2020, 01:51:42 pm »

Yes, it plays the from the Pi to the Desktop.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #324 on: October 18, 2020, 03:01:01 pm »

Using the Pi, can you load a library frrom the desktop server and play to the Pi's output device?  That would confirm that the device is working.  I suspect that it's not set up to work on the Pi yet.  Take a careful look at the Pi's audio setup.  You probably don't have the right device there.  For USB, use the FRONT devices.
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« Reply #325 on: October 18, 2020, 04:14:26 pm »

That was the issue Jim, had to go pretty far down the list and chose USB Digital SPiDf output.

Thank you.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #326 on: October 18, 2020, 05:01:46 pm »

Good news.  Thanks for posting the solution.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #327 on: December 12, 2020, 07:39:56 am »

Hi, I couldn't find the way to order IdPi other than by phone. Could you please inform me about the right link or e-mail. Thanks!
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #328 on: December 12, 2020, 07:55:55 am »

First post in this thread.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #329 on: December 22, 2020, 02:29:34 pm »

I purchased the micro SD card with the ID image from you guys.  The card now seems to be corrupt. How do I get a new one?

Thanks.
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« Reply #330 on: December 22, 2020, 03:07:30 pm »

I purchased the micro SD card with the ID image from you guys.  The card now seems to be corrupt. How do I get a new one?

Thanks.

If the card is corrupt, it needs to be mailed back to JRiver so it can be rebuilt. I believe you have to contact Deanna at JRiver about that.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #331 on: March 06, 2021, 01:49:11 pm »

Just Ordered.  Thanks, I'm looking forward to trying it out!

Cheers!
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #332 on: March 13, 2021, 07:58:35 am »

Hello everyone, I would like to buy this SD card but I need some information:
1. What Ram size is suggested for a Raspberry PI 4, for VHQ audio streaming?
2. Using JRemote app for iOS I’ll be able to create “smart playlists”, i.e. automatically delete already played tracks from that playlist?
3. Could I use Hifiberry Digi+ Pro optical interface?
4. I have a nuForce DDA-120 amplifier who has 24/176.4 maximum playable quality, so is there an option for downgrade quality when just higher quality files were played (i.e. 24/192, even more)?
5. Is there an option to import iTunes playlists?
Thank you for helping 😊
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #333 on: March 27, 2021, 04:13:58 pm »

Bump.  I have the same question about minimum RAM requirement.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #334 on: March 29, 2021, 09:33:49 am »

2 GB of ram should be fine, 1 GB was fine on the older 3b+ where the base OS had a smaller footprint.
I don't believe JRemote can create smart playlists.
We've used several HifiBerry products without modification including the Digi+ and the Amp2.
You can set MC on the IdPi to downsample material based on the capability of the DAC/AMP, that's one of it's most useful features.
There is an option to import iTunes playlists but it would likely be complex to get to do what you want since your material will likely be stored in a different place that where you originally had it.


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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #335 on: April 03, 2021, 09:23:17 am »

Hi,

I'm considering buying the JRiver ID Sd card. I will use it as a renderer. When it's 'plug & play' : will there be a step by step manual for settings, license (automatic) ? Will it detect sound cards like the hifiberry Dac2HD ?
Another question : as I'm still having to buy the Hifiberry DAC2 HD : would sound quality be superior over the Allo Boss v. 1.2 (which I own) ? Any other recommendation for a dac on a Raspberry Pi4 ? Thanks
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« Reply #336 on: April 03, 2021, 10:11:56 am »

2 GB of ram should be fine, 1 GB was fine on the older 3b+ where the base OS had a smaller footprint.
I don't believe JRemote can create smart playlists.
We've used several HifiBerry products without modification including the Digi+ and the Amp2.
You can set MC on the IdPi to downsample material based on the capability of the DAC/AMP, that's one of it's most useful features.
There is an option to import iTunes playlists but it would likely be complex to get to do what you want since your material will likely be stored in a different place that where you originally had it.
Thank you very much indeed for the answer, Bob. So there aren’t any option to create/manage smart playlists?
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #337 on: August 02, 2021, 04:32:46 pm »

Hi Folks. I bought the id for Rpi4 on SD card. My pi4 will not boot. please see my attachment. the screen will cycle every couple of seconds but the same thing is always displayed. I used another sd card and installed raspberry OS and it boots up great. any ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks
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« Reply #338 on: August 02, 2021, 04:36:35 pm »

Hi Folks. I bought the id for Rpi4 on SD card. My pi4 will not boot. please see my attachment. the screen will cycle every couple of seconds but the same thing is always displayed. I used another sd card and installed raspberry OS and it boots up great. any ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks
What devices are plugged into it?
Which video port are you using?
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #339 on: August 02, 2021, 04:39:45 pm »

monitor, usb keyboard, usb mouse, ethernet cable, power supply. hdmi 0, the one closest to the power usb C
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #340 on: August 03, 2021, 08:11:00 am »

It seems as if it cannot read the SDCard we sent.
Could you put it into a card reader and into a PC/Mac or Linux machine and see if the boot partition shows up?
If it doesn't that would verify the card is bad.
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« Reply #341 on: August 03, 2021, 09:00:59 am »

when I check in file explorer it just says to format disc, I hit cancel and the explorer window closes. when I check it in disc management it shows 7.61 GB RAW healthy partition only
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« Reply #342 on: August 03, 2021, 02:19:15 pm »

when I check in file explorer it just says to format disc, I hit cancel and the explorer window closes. when I check it in disc management it shows 7.61 GB RAW healthy partition only
It has multiple partitions however the first one is a fat32 partition and it should show up as a drive in file explorer with config.txt and a bunch of other files in it. If it doesn't it's bad.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #343 on: August 06, 2021, 01:42:28 pm »

Hello and thanks for your assistance, I have a simple question. can I use the power button on a case to safely shut down idpi? i.e. can idpi software setup the pi4 board to use the power button? also can I move everything on the sd card to a usb m.2 ssd card? I would like to have the operating system and all my music files all on one drive. I would use a 500 gb m.2 ssd with a 15gb partition for OS and the rest for music files. 
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« Reply #344 on: August 06, 2021, 02:57:40 pm »

Hello and thanks for your assistance, I have a simple question. can I use the power button on a case to safely shut down idpi? i.e. can idpi software setup the pi4 board to use the power button? also can I move everything on the sd card to a usb m.2 ssd card? I would like to have the operating system and all my music files all on one drive. I would use a 500 gb m.2 ssd with a 15gb partition for OS and the rest for music files.
The IdPi filesystem is resistant to corruption when you just cut the power like that. I don't make a practice of doing that however.

It also has the ability to support a soft power down switch. You can enable it in the configuration menu entry under advanced.
It requires a push button switch between gpio pin 24 and ground. Ideally you'll add a .1uF cap across the switch.
You might be able to move your stuff to a m.2 ssd. Your setup is pretty much the same as a stock IdPi with regards to the layout.

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« Reply #345 on: August 06, 2021, 05:35:52 pm »

Thank you, much appreciated. I like the idea of the cap
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« Reply #346 on: August 17, 2021, 11:51:22 am »

Hello all, well I got the idpi sd card setup using an argon one m.2 case. I wasn't able to transfer the sd card to the ssd so I'm running idpi on the sd card with music files on the ssd. everything is working great except volume problems. I have mostly uncompressed wav, some flac, some dsd (dsf). I'm feeding a marantz sa-10 via usb. when I play a dsf file the volume on my preamp is where it would normally be. when I play wav or flac the volume is very low, I have to crank up the preamp, way above normal, to hear it. everything in jriver is set up to play files in their original format. The music files are not the problem as I used another sd card and installed volumio and everything works perfect, except my cover art is incomplete. I want jriver to work, please help. Also does anyone know of a way to make ID run on the ssd? I tried to clone with win 32 and etcher on my windows PC, neither one worked. using raspbery OS I am able to clone to ssd and it will boot from ssd. One thing I have not tried is to load raspberry OS, connect a usb sd card reader with idpi and use the raspberry OS to clone the id to the ssd. 
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« Reply #347 on: August 19, 2021, 10:52:44 am »

Hello all, well I got the idpi sd card setup using an argon one m.2 case. I wasn't able to transfer the sd card to the ssd so I'm running idpi on the sd card with music files on the ssd. everything is working great except volume problems. I have mostly uncompressed wav, some flac, some dsd (dsf). I'm feeding a marantz sa-10 via usb. when I play a dsf file the volume on my preamp is where it would normally be. when I play wav or flac the volume is very low, I have to crank up the preamp, way above normal, to hear it. everything in jriver is set up to play files in their original format. The music files are not the problem as I used another sd card and installed volumio and everything works perfect, except my cover art is incomplete. I want jriver to work, please help. Also does anyone know of a way to make ID run on the ssd? I tried to clone with win 32 and etcher on my windows PC, neither one worked. using raspbery OS I am able to clone to ssd and it will boot from ssd. One thing I have not tried is to load raspberry OS, connect a usb sd card reader with idpi and use the raspberry OS to clone the id to the ssd.
For the volume issue, there is option 10 from the main menu which will bring up the system mixer.
You can use that to control the devices base volume. I recommend you set it to 100% and use MC to control the volume.
The reason the dsf was full volume is because it's straight to the device, the hardware mixer doesn't apply.
Unfortunately there is no consistency in the linux world concerning mixers so some times you have to resort to setting the hardware volume originally that way. It will be remembered across runs.
I'll PM you on the other issue.
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #348 on: August 22, 2021, 12:09:06 pm »

Under the player tab, volume, "internal" was selected. I switched it to "disabled" and all is good now. I use a preamp for volume control. Thanks Bob
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Re: IdPi on mSD Card -- Available Now
« Reply #349 on: September 17, 2022, 06:34:45 am »

has anyone gotten idPi to boot on a CM4 based streamer like the mercury or even the cm3 based one from allo?  I used an sdcard reader to verify at least the first partition is readable on my pc in windows.. but even when I use ethernet, my mercury streamer never receives an IP address.. I check in my routers config page that lists all connected ethernet and wifi devices.  I also tried with no ethernet cable and the mercury never advertises itself as a thing I can connect directly to with wifi with my phone or ipad.    before I try bringing a pc monitor to the mercury streamer to see if it boots up video, I just want to know if idpi is compatible with the CM4 platform.. in case you guys don't know CM3 and CM4 are compute module 3 and 4.. made by raspberry pi.  the cpu/ram of rpi on a chip and then the oem puts it on a motherboard pcb with extra input/outputs

this is the streamer I'm trying to boot it on.. it's supposed to work normally with all rpi software distros.. I've used it with volumio/moode/ropieee xl
https://www.pi2design.com/mercury-streamer-v2.html

would really love some help lol.. I bought the idpi microsd in january and I'm finally getting around to trying to get it to work
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