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How important are JRiver's video and TV features?

Extremely
Very important
Not too important
Don't understand why JRiver isn't just audio

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JimH

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POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« on: July 15, 2018, 11:58:45 am »

I ran a similar poll on DSD, an audiophile topic.

I'm just trying to understand the interest distribution of our customers.

Thanks for any comments.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2018, 12:15:05 pm »

Although I would like to use TV in MC, it just is not usable to me. Setup and usability are not on par with native tools. Hence I voted "Not too important".
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2018, 12:26:16 pm »

I have no need for the video capabilities of MC, however I understand that many people depend on them so think it should be part of MC. Unfortunately, Not Important is not an option. I voted "Don't understand why JRiver isn't just audio" since that seems closer to no interest than "Not Too Important", since i really have no interest. I think "Not important" would be a better fourth option or at least an additional option.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2018, 12:30:00 pm »

JRiver is the core of my home cinema in the cellar.
Playback of files from NAS only.

Also I use it for music in an full active setup in the living room.

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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2018, 02:28:22 pm »

I never use TV and video, nor photo on JRiver.

Music-Video are just grabage, detract form the music. If video is needed, then music is not any good.

High Quality Audio playing (not neccesarily High Res Audio), Audio Streaming and Internet Radio is what I  am interrested in
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2018, 02:35:55 pm »

It's why I started using Media Center, and still its primary use-case for me even though I also use it extensively for audio management/playback.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2018, 02:54:10 pm »

Video is a must-have.  While I love it's audio capabilities, without video I'd drop it in a heart beat out of sheer protest.  JRiver represents for me the single one-stop solution for my Home Theater needs on a Windows PC.

While I don't use the TV feature (I haven't had cable or even an antenna for many years), but Audio/Video/Photo capabilities combined with the sheer number of formats supported (DSD, MVC 3D, PCM, BluRay menus) is staggering.  There simply is no other piece of software that does this as well as JRiver.

The only place JRiver lacks is native device support; until such time - if ever - i remain limited to competitors for nVidia Shield TV and Apple TV 4K (sorry, browsers don't work there and therefore Panel is not an option in spite of its increasing improvements).  But we can deal with that... 

The home theater is paramount, and JRiver does it all an exceptionally well.

What was the question?  Haha.

Video == Extremely important

TV == Nice to have.  May get around to it sometime.

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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2018, 03:46:26 pm »

Video yes
TV would interest me but other SW just do this so much better (Subtitles, OSD, multichannel recording, epg, web interface, etc)
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2018, 04:06:12 pm »

I use JRiver mostly for video. Mostly Blu-ray MKV files with a few ISO.

Video 85%
Music 15%
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2018, 04:25:23 pm »

I don't use it for tv at all (other than playing files) but it is the main video/audio source in the whole house.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2018, 04:39:49 pm »

We use MC mostly for watching Videos and I rank each Media Type as follows in importance for us:
- 1,000 Movies (mostly BD and now UHD BD)
- 2,000 TV Shows Eps
- 500 Home Videos
- 2,000 Music Video Tracks
- OTA/FTA TV
- 10,000 Audio Tracks
- 15,000 Images (though we use it more as a storage area rather than a viewing platform)

MC with ROHQ produces a picture no other HW players can match for HTPC duties.  Support for things like BD Menus and UHD BD is outstanding.  Streaming services (aka Netflix) is a loooong way from producing a stream that can match a UHD rip played by MC.

OTA/FTA TV is also important to me but these days we use it less than previously as we can get FTA/OTA TV via:
1) HD Home Run:  and their native client apps are nice and easy for casual viewing with good EPG and a Finger friendly based UI's for the smaller screens
2) Cable:  On the larger screens, we switched to a Cable provider that has re-transmission of most FTA channels as part of their channel line up but that is likely to change over the next year or so.  In which case we will be relying on MC again for our FTA consumption on the TV's as well.

On the Audio Front we consume music more as a background / party thing rather than critical listening (eg how much critical listening do you need with Oz Pub Rock!!).  On that point, it is the distribution of the content to the whole house that is important and an area that is still hard to do in a user friendly way. 
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2018, 04:40:39 pm »

Playing Movies, Series and Music (Stereo, Multichannel and Highres) from NAS.

No TV or other Things like Gadgets or Weather and so on
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2018, 05:33:45 pm »

The combination of the DSP engine with BD/uhd support is *the* USP for MC imv.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2018, 06:21:28 pm »

I'm hoping to use MC as the backbone of my media server - TV and my video collection being primary.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2018, 07:25:10 pm »

My use:
50% TV
25% Video
25% Music

Coming from Win MCE recently and now I use JRiver to all my media.
Worthy replacement because of Microsoft stopped support Win MCE.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2018, 07:52:37 pm »

I'm almost exclusively TV and Video. 
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2018, 12:35:52 am »

Unfortunately, I do not know why, I've never managed to make JRiver work properly for TV. Maybe it's not properly programmed for the Italian TV signal, or maybe I did not do it, the fact is that for TV use DVBViewer starting it from JRiver.

However I use JRiver for the video at 90% (the combined MC-ROHQ-madvr is really unsurpassable) and 10% for the music.

The recent activation of BD menus and compatibility with BD-UHD makes it irreplaceable
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2018, 12:54:13 am »

Extremely important.

In my case I use MC for more than a year now, mainly for watching Blu rays with madvr options (I have a 1280x800 projector so I need downscaling options) and also for listening to hi res audio files. Videoclock is the feature that made me buy the software, it's just too good (please never take it out ;D).

So to resume:
50% movies
50% music
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2018, 01:18:56 am »

80%  Music
20%  Movies
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 01:54:48 am »

Video is a must-have.  While I love it's audio capabilities, without video I'd drop it in a heart beat out of sheer protest.  JRiver represents for me the single one-stop solution for my Home Theater needs on a Windows PC.

While I don't use the TV feature (I haven't had cable or even an antenna for many years), but Audio/Video/Photo capabilities combined with the sheer number of formats supported (DSD, MVC 3D, PCM, BluRay menus) is staggering.  There simply is no other piece of software that does this as well as JRiver.

The only place JRiver lacks is native device support; until such time - if ever - i remain limited to competitors for nVidia Shield TV and Apple TV 4K (sorry, browsers don't work there and therefore Panel is not an option in spite of its increasing improvements).  But we can deal with that... 

The home theater is paramount, and JRiver does it all an exceptionally well.

What was the question?  Haha.

Video == Extremely important

TV == Nice to have.  May get around to it sometime.

I don't like to copy but this sums it up for me as well.

Video and Audio a must - TV couldn't care less.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2018, 02:02:34 am »

We're just trying to understand how our customers use the software.  We have no intention of removing anything.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2018, 02:10:07 am »

Hi,
All sort of Music files and Video files.
No Tv.
Thanks,
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2018, 08:16:33 am »

Hi,

I only use JRiver for watching my Movie/TV Boxsets rips in MKV (MK3D) from my NAS. I don't use it for live TV.

John
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2018, 09:58:33 am »

100% music here. I may use it for photos in the future, I don't know yet. As for video, I don't need any software to watch programs or stream Netflix and OCS on my TV. I don't buy or download BD/DVD anymore, Netflix + OCS + TV programs are more than enough for my wife and me. I still buy CDs, although not nearly often than before.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2018, 10:17:37 am »

video is important to me ... very important (music is important too)

I found reference to JRiver in forums for natively playing 3D ... fact that it can also do music was a bonus ... fact that it can do both video and audio in highest quality was a winner for me

sure there is Netfix for video but then there is Spotify for music ... what i am getting to is - i like to "own" my library ... internet where i am is expensive and slow ... so streaming is not an option for me (and even if it was ... i still prefer BD over whatever streaming is offering) ... i have to get my BD from ebay and amazon now as closest shop that sells physical discs closed down :(
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2018, 10:37:04 am »

I use MC for Music (90%) and video (10%).
I have not set up TV and don't plan to do so.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2018, 10:37:26 am »

I have no need for the video capabilities of MC, however I understand that many people depend on them so think it should be part of MC. Unfortunately, Not Important is not an option. I voted "Don't understand why JRiver isn't just audio" since that seems closer to no interest than "Not Too Important", since i really have no interest. I think "Not important" would be a better fourth option or at least an additional option.

I agree with this post!
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2018, 10:39:21 am »


TV = 50%
Video = 25%
Music = 25%

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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2018, 11:05:26 am »

It is essential for me but I am using it less and less for TV as more of the programs we watch become available on streaming. We are only recording a handful of TV shows a week these days.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2018, 11:08:01 am »

Maybe you should have split out Video & TV into separate questions.

For me Video is very important, TV - never have or will use JR MC for that.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2018, 11:12:39 am »

The difference between TV and Video is disappearing.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2018, 12:14:25 pm »

I don't use the TV features (I don't have a tuner in my PC) but I use the video features a lot, especially now that Blu-Ray Menus are supported! I love having as many Blu-Rays ripped as my drive will hold so I can fire up any movie any time! That always impresses people when I show them the power of MC.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2018, 12:17:57 pm »

I use the Video functions quite a bit, but not TV.  I'm interpreting TV as cable or OTA.  I use YouTube TV for that content solely now.  I do this on a Roku or my laptop. 
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2018, 12:48:17 pm »

With 78 voting, it's about

70% important

30% not

This is very interesting.  I take it as an indication that we have more customers focused on video now than on audio.  I know that many of the video customers are also audio customers.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2018, 12:50:49 pm »

Was there a poll regarding the importance of audio?
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2018, 01:14:54 pm »

For me - "Video" simply relates to the ability to playback movies (files) in a easy and meaninglful way. Audio of course is my main reason for using MC.

"TV" in MC serves little purpose here in Canada as everything is encrypted and delivered via set top box.

I actually scratch my head wondering how/why the TV fans in here actually use MC in conjunction with a standard TV subscription be it in Alberta or Minnesota. Is everyone out buying antennas and capturing the free over the air HD channels or what?

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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2018, 01:52:35 pm »

With 78 voting, it's about

70% important

30% not

This is very interesting.  I take it as an indication that we have more customers focused on video now than on audio.  I know that many of the video customers are also audio customers.

I think most ppl who don't care about Video might not even bother with this poll while almost certainly ppl who care will vote lol
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2018, 02:00:06 pm »

I think you underestimate the opinions of people who don't care.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2018, 02:01:39 pm »

I think you underestimate the opinions of people who don't care.

He didn't underestimate mine.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2018, 02:32:05 pm »

I buy JR to have a flexible and powerful blu-ray player that works even (and in the future) for 3D.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2018, 02:32:29 pm »

He didn't underestimate mine.
Meaning that you didn't vote?
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2018, 03:24:02 pm »

Meaning that you didn't vote?

Correct
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2018, 03:29:08 pm »

I take it as an indication that we have more customers focused on video now than on audio.  I know that many of the video customers are also audio customers.

Jim, I use MC about 80% audio, 20% video, and out of that 20% is why I said what I said above.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2018, 04:07:59 pm »

I think you underestimate the opinions of people who don't care.

I did not mean to criticize this poll as it votes on feature that's very important to me just saying people are lazy most of the time for things they even care about more so for things they don't care Brexit is a sad example of that
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2018, 04:21:25 pm »

I use video / tv / streaming radio / local audio in about equal amounts.

I started with JRiver for its audio capabilities but expanded into OTA tv (HDHomerun) and local video (mostly blu ray rips from local NAS). I do occasionally use it to access my photo collection too.

I want it to be my one stop shop for all forms of media and the more I can control it from Theatre View the better.

I really appreciate the "diversification" in v24 and hope it continues although I appreciate it must be getting increasingly difficult to keep up with developing all these new capabilities.

Good job guys!
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2018, 08:18:19 pm »

We ONLY use TV and Video features. No audio at all. Google Home and Pandora/Slacker do an excellent job of that (for our needs anyway).
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2018, 08:37:18 pm »

Supporting video files/formats and supporting live TV are two different things.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2018, 12:59:02 am »

I would separate video and TV.
For movies I have the highest quality source, and TV we consume over internet or youtube from our personal devices, or not watching at all.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2018, 06:22:27 am »

I have:
- 13174 Audio files
- 14433 Image files
-   3313 Video files
-   3416 Other files

Video with madVR makes for me the big! difference. MC is for me the only one stop solution for audio, video and images. I also use it to archive my documents.

If MC would be only audio I would go somewhere else ->R*. The price difference would not play a role for me.
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Re: POLL: Importance of Video and TV
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2018, 07:54:25 am »

I use MC mainly for Audio with high res quality.
153.000 audio files
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45 videos
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