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SirTom2015

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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2019, 05:49:25 pm »

Azlyrics is not the only source used. If not found on Azlyrics, the search goes to 2 other sources, not sure what they are. But, if Azlyrics finds something, then that is what you get. Other programs often show you the sources and let you check which to use - based on your experience. That would be a nice option here.

Incidentally, you may not be actually getting results from azlyrics. Earlier they were blocking access for people who used them too often, which was often just a few albums. Not sure if that is still the case but it may be.


Thanks. I didn't know other providers were added. Still, for a Megadeth tune, I got a very long rap lyric for it, For a George Jones tune, I got  a Kenny Logins lyric. I did the whole album Screaming for Vengeance by Judas Priest, and got Lyrics from a NAZ album.

So it is still buggy. Glad though that other providers were added.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2019, 06:51:03 pm »

Google lookup will be in the next build.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2019, 08:08:32 pm »

That's great but if it is the 4th in line then the wrong lyrics problem will be the same. How about a user choice for which source to use?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2019, 01:03:36 am »

there are only two cover art related context popup menu items available no matter where to click
so, anyone willing to confirm it doesn't work with rp as there are no "display lyrics" popup menu item there (only cover art style and scale) even with "Lookup lyrics" able to retrieve it?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2019, 04:15:26 am »

Sorry vavan it works for me
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2019, 12:07:54 pm »

I don't know if this makes sense for others, but I'd like to simply load lyrics on demand in the Playing Now window and not have to store them - or preload to have this feature. I really don't care if I have to load the lyrics again (if I want to) in the future (which might be months and months away shuffling through thousands of songs).

Whatcha' think Jim?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2019, 04:33:34 am »

Sorry vavan it works for me

thank you
here's how it looks like here on a fresh trial installation
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2019, 05:59:41 am »

thank you
here's how it looks like here on a fresh trial installation
Are you sure that the track from CloudPlay that you're playing has lyrics in it?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #108 on: April 13, 2019, 05:17:19 am »

Are you sure that the track from CloudPlay that you're playing has lyrics in it?
did you see my screenshot above and read explanation?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2019, 10:14:50 am »

I don't have those last 2 menu items for Radio Paradise either. Build 25.0.18 for Windows.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2019, 10:24:08 am »

Can you scroll down?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #111 on: April 13, 2019, 10:38:05 am »

No. For everything else it works except Radio Paradise.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2019, 01:16:36 am »

I don't have those last 2 menu items for Radio Paradise either. Build 25.0.18 for Windows.
thank you, at least someone was able to confirm the problem I keep complaining
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2019, 01:19:08 am »

Can you scroll down?
scroll what? Not sure what you mean
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2019, 10:47:34 am »

did you see my screenshot above and read explanation?
Yes, but my question is can you confirm if the track that's in CloudPlay actually has lyrics in the tags? For example, this one does so that's why the Display Lyrics is there.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2019, 11:18:42 am »

The lyrics are loaded and can be seen in the tags. But there is no way to display the view screen, as there is no corresponding menu item only for radio Paradise. Everything works well in CloudPlay.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2019, 12:04:00 pm »

Yes, but my question is can you confirm if the track that's in CloudPlay actually has lyrics in the tags? For example, this one does so that's why the Display Lyrics is there.
I always see the Display Lyrics menu item regardless as to whether the track has lyrics or not.
Obviously if there are no lyrics present they will not be displayed but I still see the menu item.
Also we are talking about Radio Paradise not CloudPlay.
To see them in RP you first need to download them for the playing song then enable the Display Lyrics menu, but some guys are not seeing this menu item.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #117 on: April 15, 2019, 03:58:02 am »

The lyrics are loaded and can be seen in the tags. But there is no way to display the view screen, as there is no corresponding menu item only for radio Paradise
right, and that's exactly what might be seen in the screenshot I've attached
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #118 on: April 15, 2019, 03:59:49 am »

Also we are talking about Radio Paradise not CloudPlay.
To see them in RP you first need to download them for the playing song then enable the Display Lyrics menu, but some guys are not seeing this menu item.
what he said
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2019, 01:49:08 am »

25.0.24 brought "Artist images" and "Dislpay lyrics" items to popup context menu when playing RP but the problem is Lookup lyrics broken now
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #120 on: April 16, 2019, 03:26:04 am »

I read the whole thread but didn't see anybody saying if it is possible or not to get/show lyrics in Theater view. Is it?
Thanks.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2019, 02:34:08 pm »

for anyone wanting to do batch lyrics I found that Lyrics Finder by Media Human works very well. It will auto-write the lyrics to the tag file for batches of mp3 or flac files. Those lyrics will display beautifully with the new display lyrics feature on MC 25. I have done a few hundred files at a time with great success. The ones it cannot find I search on Google myself and manually add them. Makes going through a Terabyte of music go pretty quick. Finds lyrics for even my obscure alternative music and old time country tunes.
I've also used Lyrics Finder from time to time, and agree that it works well (especially considering it's free!) While it's pretty good for 'mainstream' tracks, I often find it a mixed bag for more obscure stuff. Hard to tell exactly what sources it uses; Media Human's website names only genius.com and "others".

With all due respect to JRiver, I still use MediaMonkey (MM) for managing and tagging my collection because a) I've used it forever so know most of the tricks; and b) with a few add-ons, it's by far the most flexible tool I've ever found for those tasks, especially with large collections... and I've tried most of them. MM has a free add-on called 'Lyricator' that I believe covers more sources than Lyrics Finder, and offers a pile of options such as how the Artist and Title will be munged (reformatted) for best search results. You can also select any or all of ten search sources: AZLyrics.com, Lyric.Wikia.com, letras.mus.br, lyricsmode.com, seekalyric.com, metrolyrics.com, elyrics.net, songcoleta.com, genius.com, and musixmatch.com. (I doubt LyricWikia works anymore, however, because they were forced to remove API access several years ago due to hassles with the record labels. A shame, because I can often find missing lyrics at LyricWikia.)

Just as a quick comparison, I tried adding lyrics to a 4-disc box set from Lindisfarne, a somewhat obscure UK folk-rock band that was huge (especially in England) in the early '70s. They put out about a dozen albums, but had largely faded away by the early '80s. Lyrics Finder discovered lyrics for 37 tracks - about half of the 71 track total. Likely due to a broader set of search sites, MM's Lyricator did better, tagging 57 of the 71 tracks. 14 tracks weren't tagged by either tool. However, I do find that Lyrics Finder sometimes formats its results a little better than does Lyricator.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #122 on: April 18, 2019, 09:42:27 am »

Since the upgrade from 18 to 24 I cannot get Lyrics anymore.
I get always something else instead of the Lyrics - see picture.
Any ideas what this could be.
Thanks in advance
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #123 on: April 18, 2019, 09:58:48 am »

Since the upgrade from 18 to 24 I cannot get Lyrics anymore.
I get always something else instead of the Lyrics - see picture
that's similar to what I reported above, only in different language
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #124 on: April 18, 2019, 10:00:00 am »

It may only work with Google in the U.S.  We'll check.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2019, 04:59:39 pm »

An option that allowed the user to specify which sources to use would be very useful in cases like this.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2019, 05:16:33 am »

An option that allowed the user to specify which sources to use would be very useful in cases like this.

would be great
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2019, 06:20:52 am »

I have two wishes:

The first can be done so that the lines words do not overlap another?

The second can be made possible to display the song lyrics in the Gizmo application?

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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #128 on: April 25, 2019, 09:56:32 am »

Just want like to say that I´happy with the display of lyrics.
Thanks to the MC team
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2019, 12:45:36 pm »

I have been trying to get the lyrics display to work but cannot get rid of the truncated lines.  For short lines, the display works fine (screen shot 1) but if there are long lines they are truncated (screen shot 2). And, expanding the display by removing the left windows does not help the truncated lines (screen shot 3). The display just gets bigger.


So I thought I would play with font types and sizes in the lyrics tag. Unfortunately, the popup edit tag does not seem to have any font options and does not even seem to have any way to save any changes, unless I am missing something - see the 4th screen shot.  Of course, actually manually editing all the lyrics is not a viable project, but I wanted to see if it had any effect.

Also, their seems to be no way to change the actual display font for the lyrics.

Any help in getting this lyric display to work properly would be appreciated.

Additional screens shots in next post due to file size limit.


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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2019, 12:49:04 pm »

Screens shots for last post.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2019, 05:36:18 pm »

Just want like to say that I´happy with the display of lyrics.
Thanks to the MC team

How did you get the lyrics to go vertical? For me they always spread to multiple columns, even if there is more vertical space in the windows.  And the truncation persists.  With more space, the same display just expands.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2019, 11:24:16 am »

Dear dtc -this comes from different "Track Info" - I have some of them and was testing all how they display the lyrics.
I attached therefore two different pic from different track info's.

Under programs/J River/Media Center 25/Visualizations/Track Info you can find css files where fonts sizes and some other parameter´s can be changed.

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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2019, 11:30:12 am »

The second can be made possible to display the song lyrics in the Gizmo application?
Best regards,
Roma.

Dear Roma as I know Gizmo is out of development.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2019, 11:41:06 am »

Dear Roma as I know Gizmo is out of development.
Please don't speak for JRiver.  Gizmo is important.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2019, 12:12:01 pm »

The last version of Gizmo was Dec. 2015.  It is certainly not under active development.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2019, 12:19:48 pm »

The last version of Gizmo was Dec. 2015.  It is certainly not under active development.
If there was something critical missing, it would be fixed.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #137 on: April 26, 2019, 02:53:39 pm »

If there was something critical missing, it would be fixed.
But new features are not being added.  It is a very good app and has been from the day it first appeared, but there are features that people have requested over time that have not been added.

Any chance lyrics viewing will be added?
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #138 on: April 26, 2019, 03:39:56 pm »

Now, any help on truncated lyrics?  Do we just live with that?  I tried to find a solution but have not. Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #139 on: April 28, 2019, 06:38:07 am »

Lyrics displayed is great. However, the upload site should at also give the ability to upload translations. In this european perspective dealing with many languages, it is a 'should have' feature. I want to upload Greek songtexts of famous Greek composers like Hadzidakis, Theodorakis and Xarhakos and their Dutch and French translations, but there is no way to do it.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #140 on: April 28, 2019, 05:20:52 pm »

I have been trying to get the lyrics display to work but cannot get rid of the truncated lines.  For short lines, the display works fine (screen shot 1) but if there are long lines they are truncated (screen shot 2). And, expanding the display by removing the left windows does not help the truncated lines (screen shot 3). The display just gets bigger.


So I thought I would play with font types and sizes in the lyrics tag. Unfortunately, the popup edit tag does not seem to have any font options and does not even seem to have any way to save any changes, unless I am missing something - see the 4th screen shot.  Of course, actually manually editing all the lyrics is not a viable project, but I wanted to see if it had any effect.

Also, their seems to be no way to change the actual display font for the lyrics.

Any help in getting this lyric display to work properly would be appreciated.

Additional screens shots in next post due to file size limit.

I have the truncated lyrics problems as well. I have tried different view settings.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #141 on: April 29, 2019, 07:38:21 am »

Coming next build we'll try this:
Changed: The lyrics display will break long lines into multiple lines instead of letting the text truncate.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #142 on: April 30, 2019, 08:01:38 am »

I tried the lyrics change to wrap rather than truncate lines. It is much better. I would suggest that the wrapped line be indented several spaces so it is clear that it is a wrapped line.  Not sure without being able to see it,  but I think that would improve the readability.

On several tracks (see attached files) there seems to be wrapped lines even though there is a lot of white space between the columns.  The large white spaces lead to  more wrapping.  Not sure what all the parameters are, but less white space on tracks like these might be good. Of course, on some their is little to no whitespace.  The algorithm may need so tweaking.

It also seems that hiding the left window has no effect on the wrapping. There is a lot more space for lyrics, but it does not get used. They fonts just get bigger. It would be nice to somehow have a separate window that shows all the lyrics and can be sized by the user.

Thanks for working on this.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #143 on: April 30, 2019, 02:37:30 pm »

Truncated lines are better for me as well.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #144 on: May 03, 2019, 10:08:31 am »

Hi All, It would be better if the lookup engine ignored anything in brackets  () {} [] when getting the lyrics.

See attached screenshot of the missing lyrics that would be obtained if the above was implemented.

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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #145 on: May 04, 2019, 03:23:35 am »

If there was something critical missing, it would be fixed.
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2019, 03:16:39 am »

Dear Matt & JimH,

Now I can say that the lyrics are displayed normally in window ''play now''.
Thanks.

I want to know if there is an opportunity to make the display text lyrics in the Gizmo program?
Thanks.

Best Regards,
Roma
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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #147 on: May 08, 2019, 10:19:03 am »

I am seeing blank lines in the display when there are none in the lyrics.  The attached screen shot shows the lyrics have just one blank line, but several blank lines show in the display.  The lyrics were just downloaded, so presumably came from Google.  I do not see blank spaces at the end of the lines in the popup editor, but maybe removing spaces from the end of lines might help.

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Re: NEW: Lyrics Display in Playing Now
« Reply #148 on: May 08, 2019, 10:24:06 am »

I am seeing blank lines in the display when there are none in the lyrics.  The attached screen shot shows the lyrics have just one blank line, but several blank lines show in the display.  The lyrics were just downloaded, so presumably came from Google.  I do not see blank spaces at the end of the lines in the popup editor, but maybe removing spaces from the end of lines might help.

Would you email me the text from the lyrics field?  I'm matt at jriver.

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« Reply #149 on: May 08, 2019, 11:00:18 am »

Sent.

Thanks for looking at this.
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