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Awesome Donkey

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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2018, 05:57:14 am »

Long story short QNAP pulled the rug out from under JRiver and thus MC for QNAP was removed off of HD Station. It was pretty much wasted development time and money for nothing in the end, thus why I'd reckon that JRiver likely has no interest in porting MC to Synology NASes when the exact same thing can (and honestly likely would) happen again.

If Synology NASes support Docker, you may be able to get MC for Linux working that way. Honestly I believe trying to run MC on NASes is a waste of time, when one can just buy a cheap Raspberry Pi (or an Id Pi with MC pre-installed), connect your NAS to it and then run MC for Linux on it to manage your NAS' files. It won't be able to handle videos, but for audio-only it should do just fine.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2018, 05:58:52 am »

JRiver built a QNAP version, then QNAP dropped it for internal reasons. 

Awesome Donkey is correct.  We won't do any more special packages for devices that don't run mainstream OS's.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2018, 06:11:44 am »

Fair enough. Thank you for the backstory.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2018, 10:24:27 am »

Assuming JRiver aspires to make continuous significant inroads into the media player market worldwide, and given that the rise of the NAS is at this point unstoppable, one would like to think that they (JRiver) are now giving some serious thought to the possibility of building a Media Center package for Synology, one of the leading NAS manufacturers. As a consumer (I currently use the 4-bay DS918+), it seems a no-brainer in the uber-competitive world of media players/servers. I had to question the wisdom of one of the other contributors questioning whether or not such a product would ever be released to the consumer market, especially as the NAS, albeit in its relative infancy, is clearly here to stay, with several significant advantages. That old adage of giving the customer what they want exists for a reason. To allude to doubting you'd ever make such a package available, without at the very least conducting extensive market research, appears highly premature and somewhat ill-conceived.

Furthermore, let me echo the overwhelming sentiments of this forum by saying that as a Synology user (this is my second Synology NAS incidentally), the availability of a flexible and accommodating music server package on Synology NAS that is compatible with iTunes and allows for a seamless transfer of iTunes playlists (yes, we are all held hostage to iTunes and those painstakingly curated playlists) would be a game changer. If that isn't already apparent, then please take heed. As an audiophile, I am constantly searching for the ideal music setup, and right now that consists of running JRiver Media Center 24 on my iMac in order to stream hi-res music on my Cambridge Audio AZUR 851N Network Audio Player. Ideally, I would like to do this from my Synology DS918+ NAS (as would countless contributors to this excellent forum). Could you please update the community as to your short to medium term plans in this regard. I'm sure we would all appreciate this very much.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2018, 11:00:49 am »

Assuming JRiver aspires to make continuous significant inroads into the media player market worldwide, and given that the rise of the NAS is at this point unstoppable, one would like to think that they (JRiver) are now giving some serious thought to the possibility of building a Media Center package for Synology, one of the leading NAS manufacturers.

Given what happened with QNAP, I'd say hell has a better chance at freezing over. :P

Of course, if the Synology NAS supports Docker, you might be able to get it working that way with the unofficial MC24 Docker image. Otherwise, I wouldn't hold my breath on this. Jim has said multiple times they don't intend to make anymore packages for devices like NASes. The same thing that happened with QNAP could (and honestly likely would) happen again. And then it's just ultimately a waste of time, money and resources on JRiver's behalf again. Once bitten, twice shy!

Though, if you're using audio only, you could add a Raspberry Pi running Raspbian + MC (or an Id Pi, which includes MC pre-installed and everything) with the NAS. It actually works pretty good that way.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2018, 11:45:18 am »

Assuming JRiver aspires to make continuous significant inroads into the media player market worldwide, and given that the rise of the NAS is at this point unstoppable, one would like to think that they (JRiver) are now giving some serious thought to the possibility of building a Media Center package for Synology, one of the leading NAS manufacturers. As a consumer (I currently use the 4-bay DS918+), it seems a no-brainer in the uber-competitive world of media players/servers. I had to question the wisdom of one of the other contributors questioning whether or not such a product would ever be released to the consumer market, especially as the NAS, albeit in its relative infancy, is clearly here to stay, with several significant advantages. That old adage of giving the customer what they want exists for a reason. To allude to doubting you'd ever make such a package available, without at the very least conducting extensive market research, appears highly premature and somewhat ill-conceived.

Furthermore, let me echo the overwhelming sentiments of this forum by saying that as a Synology user (this is my second Synology NAS incidentally), the availability of a flexible and accommodating music server package on Synology NAS that is compatible with iTunes and allows for a seamless transfer of iTunes playlists (yes, we are all held hostage to iTunes and those painstakingly curated playlists) would be a game changer. If that isn't already apparent, then please take heed. As an audiophile, I am constantly searching for the ideal music setup, and right now that consists of running JRiver Media Center 24 on my iMac in order to stream hi-res music on my Cambridge Audio AZUR 851N Network Audio Player. Ideally, I would like to do this from my Synology DS918+ NAS (as would countless contributors to this excellent forum). Could you please update the community as to your short to medium term plans in this regard. I'm sure we would all appreciate this very much.
A NAS is just another computer, and they tend to paint themselves into corners.  There are lots of low power solutions available that are based on standards.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2019, 04:54:52 am »

3rd Synology NAS since 2011. I'm interested in an MC package.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2019, 05:27:46 am »

Look above, I personally don't think it'll happen. At least for audio only it's easier to get a Raspberry Pi or a Id from JRiver and use that with a NAS.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2021, 10:51:55 am »

Too bad, I am eliminating my old media server in favor of a NAS and looking to consolidate hardware. I have considered a "stick PC" to the HDMI on my receiver to run JRiver and handle Audio and video through HDMI to my 4K capable receiver.
Since there is not official support and I will be consolidating two boxes into a NAS. May need to explore options :( Sad day, love my JRiver.
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Re: JRiver as a Package on a Synology NAS
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2021, 11:15:17 am »

Docker is an option, but it's not officially supported by JRiver.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126822.0.html
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