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Author Topic: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.  (Read 2349 times)

David dP

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Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« on: August 11, 2020, 05:33:47 am »

Hi all,

It's been a long time since I last wrote, here, because I had more or less given up on my HTPC, with it being a 4th gen i5 with IGPU, and seemingly not able to properly cope, for video playback, with JR version 24 that I had bought last year.

Well, to make a long story (or rather a lot of time spent) short, I found out that the whole problem was video sync between JRiver, Intel driver and my trusty old plasma...

Setting video output in JR to 50Hz instead of the native frequencies solved everything, and on that old PC, I'm now able to run ROHQ with Lanczos 4 taps on both chroma and image upscaling, in windowed mode, in FHD ! (Actually, Jinc even works for image upscaling, but I don't find the results that much better...). Bought a renewed license of AnyDVD, and I can once again consider taking my (high quality !) CD and Bluray players out of the picture completely ! YAY !!!

I still have one last issue I'd love to solve : When going to open live (FM tuner on the RME soundcard inputs, through JRiver, to RME output), the Steinberg ASIO multiclient (needed with the RME card) isn't in the list of ASIO devices. The strange thing is, that when I run JRiver v21, it does, and it works. Plus, as far as I can remember, it used to work under V24 too.

Am I missing something obvious ?

Any help will be greatly appreciated !

Cheers,
David

PS : If it can help anyone : Other setting needed to make the image stutter completely disappear, apart from the 50Hz vertical sync : Present 3 frames (and not more) in advance in madVR rendering.
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 06:20:43 am »

Are you using the 64-bit version of Media Center 24? If so, try the 32-bit version instead as your ASIO driver might be 32-bit only.
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 06:50:46 am »

Thanks, I'll try that ! Would it explain why it works in JR21 ?

The list of ASIO devices in Open Live in JR21 shows : RME Fireface, Asio client (which is the one I want), JRiver 19, JRiver 21

The list of ASIO devices in Open Live in JR24 shows : RME Fireface, JRiver 19, JRiver 21, JRiver 24

Note that JRiver 19 isn't even on the computer anymore. How do I remove it from this list ?

Is there a limit of 4 devices in the list ?
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 07:24:26 am »

Are you using the 64-bit version of Media Center 24? If so, try the 32-bit version instead as your ASIO driver might be 32-bit only.
That's a good guess.
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2020, 08:13:10 am »

Thanks, I'll try that ! Would it explain why it works in JR21 ?

Yes, Media Center was 32-bit only until Media Center 23 when experimental 64-bit builds was released.
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2020, 10:51:17 am »

Donkey, Jim, thank you so much. That was it...

Stupid me had to redo all my settings because I lost them uninstalling the 64bit version... But now it works beautifully !

BTW, would I also have to install the 32 bit version if I was to buy JR27 ?

Thanks again !
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2020, 10:58:00 am »

Yes, if you use the same audio driver.
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Re: Rediscovering JRiver, open live issue on V24.
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2020, 03:12:21 pm »

Indeed. 64-bit media players are rare with foobar2000, Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc. still being 32-bit only apps whereas JRiver now offers a 64-bit Windows version.

The problem is, some hardware vendors only release 32-bit ASIO drivers for their devices (because again, 64-bit media players are rare) so the 32-bit version is the only one that will work and it won't work with 64-bit Media Center. Hopefully over time 64-bit ASIO drivers become more common. :)
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