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Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« on: June 09, 2021, 01:14:19 am »

Will ATMOS  work with JRiver 27?

i am on Windows 10

i finally sussed how to get ATMOS via my Xbox One S, so it occurred to me i need to set JRiver for ATMOS because WOW i had no idea i was not getting ATMOS in JRiver after really hearing ATMOS

i have been playing ATMOS media for months not knowing this(Red faced)

i was receiving  PCM+Dolby  surround as my output when i played ATMOS and was too daft to suss it.

SO i do some changes in JRiver 27

Tools > Options > Audio > Settings > Bitstreaming > Custom > (select your formats)

i chose all formats

Then Player > DSP Studio > Output Format > Channels.i chose Dolby Digital

i rebooted JRiver 27, and i am now closer

i am now receiving  "Dolby digital+ Dolby surround".Not ATMOS

Does JRiver support ATMOS?

If so how do i do the setup for that?

Am i close?
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2021, 01:54:16 am »

No - MC is not Dolby Atmos enabled,  so it will only play those tracks as if they were either 5.1 or 7.1 tracks

However MC can Bitstream to a Dolby Atmos Enabled Receiver, i.e. a Soundbar, via HDMI, but only when the source, what is being played in MC, is video.
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2021, 02:31:05 am »

Thanks, mate

Yes, sorry i was not clear

I do have an ATMOS setup(NAD T778) system

Netflix etc will stream ATMOS, but I cannot get JRiver 27 to do ATMOS through my system

I noticed lesser software like potplayer/VLC will.i assume the audio is nowhere on par as JRiver





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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2021, 02:37:07 am »

Not only do i not get ATMOS after the settings I did as I posted in OP

But now ATMOS blurays that worked before get this issue as in pic

But everything else that worked before works same now

So will JRiver 27 be able to help me get ATMOS somehow?

i assume so,or some other software.Folks must be getting it somehow

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 02:56:09 am »

Have you enabled bitstreaming?

As mentioned Media Center can't decode or encode Dolby Atmos, however if you enable bitstreaming it can send the Atmos to a receiver/soundbar for example so it can decode it.
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 03:06:17 am »

Cheers mate

Yes i am trying to send to my Surround receiver

This is what I have done so far

Please see attached

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 03:23:45 am »

You likely don't use output encoding under DSP Studio > Output Format. Otherwise, is it working?
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 03:31:49 am »

Yes JRiver works a charm on anything else

Before I did those changes I mentioned all I got was a surround downmix,now I get what I call an improvement

I get a "Dolby Digital+Dolby Surround " stream

Were you suggesting I change something in DSP studio?

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 03:36:42 am »

PS 

If i choose "none" in DSP studio all I get as a stream is "PCM+ Dolby Surround"

All I want/need to do is send an unhindered stream to my amp?

i am feeling daft as heck because I assume thousands of folks have this sussed out already

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 03:38:42 am »

Yes JRiver works a charm on anything else

Before I did those changes I mentioned all I got was a surround downmix,now I get what I call an improvement

I get a "Dolby Digital+Dolby Surround " stream

Were you suggesting I change something in DSP studio?

PS

DSP Studio only goes to 5.1,but I assume that when I send to my AMP i will send the ATMOS stream un touched?

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 03:39:31 am »

Try this :-  In Tools >> Options >> Audio - set channels to Source number of channels, in DSP, and Bitstreaming to Yes (HDMI)

My setup includes a Samsung Harman/Karman Dolby Atmos Enabled Soundbar and the above settings work with it.

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2021, 03:57:27 am »

Thanks mate

In "  In Tools >> Options >> Audio " I see no settings that say " set channels to Source number of channels"

In " in DSP, and Bitstreaming to Yes (HDMI)"

See pics,I found "Yes for HDMI" in "Bitstreaming",but no such setting in DSP/DSP studio that mentions HDMI
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 04:10:16 am »

Sorry if you found my posting misleading - Setting the Channels is done in DSP Studio, which is accessible from the Tools >> Options >> Audio Page/Panel whilst the setting the Bitstreaming to Yes (HDMI) is done on that page and not in DSP

Your Audio Panel settings should look similar to the 1st attached image and the DSP Panel settings should look similar to the 2nd attached image.

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2021, 05:28:58 am »

No mate,it was not misleading.i just did not understand.i am daft and I have been at this since what is now yesterday lol

I'm shall try this mate after a wee shut eye

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 05:59:51 am »

No mate,it was not misleading.i just did not understand.i am daft and I have been at this since what is now yesterday lol

I'm shall try this mate after a wee shut eye

cheers

OK so I could not sleep till I sussed this lol

Those settings u showed me work great

Now I stream ATMOS from a Bluray perfectly

BUT,I still cannot get ATMOS from individual ATMOS files I extracted from the ATMOS channels

Any ideas what setting I missed?

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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2021, 06:04:30 am »

BUT,I still cannot get ATMOS from individual ATMOS files I extracted from the ATMOS channels

As far as I know this won't work if you're trying to use Atmos audio files. Atmos bitstreaming only works with video, as far as I know.
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2021, 06:29:33 am »

As far as I know this won't work if you're trying to use Atmos audio files. Atmos bitstreaming only works with video, as far as I know.
I wonder if renaming the file as mp4 might work.
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2021, 07:07:12 am »

I wonder if renaming the file as mp4 might work.

Probably not - the Atmos data is carried in the sub-channels that other formats either do not use or use in a different way.
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2021, 01:45:40 pm »

i read this person took individual ATMOS extracted files and converted to .MKV and they stream in ATMOS

Any opinions if this is legit mates?

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/music-media-helper-useful-tools-for-music-videos-mch-audio.22693/
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Re: Will JRiver 27 stream ATMOS?
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2021, 02:43:05 pm »

i read this person took individual ATMOS extracted files and converted to .MKV and they stream in ATMOS

Any opinions if this is legit mates?

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/music-media-helper-useful-tools-for-music-videos-mch-audio.22693/

What they probably did was use MakeMKV https://www.makemkv.com/ to rip/extract the individual files from the BlueRay Disc to individual video files on the PC.

I used that method to extract the Files from the DVD that accompanies the 50th Anniversary Edition of the Beatle Abbey Road Album.

Not only is it legal one of the new features in MC 28 will be the ability to initiate that ripping from inside MC.

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