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lepa

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Carnac Tagging
« on: August 18, 2024, 08:25:56 am »

Please stop doing carnac tag thing/analyze for video files already in library when drag and drop files into MC from explorer. It slows things up and MORE importantly messes up the tags which have already been set right manually before in MC. Just lost couple thousand files of work as MC reset artist, date etc tags when drag and dropped video files to playing now from explorer.
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2024, 08:38:41 am »

MC shouldn't change anything that is already tagged.

Try the Library Tools or restore a backup. 

Nothing has changed in this area. 
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2024, 08:56:19 am »

This is has been there for ages I think. Just haven't hit it recently as I haven't done this kind of work for a while. I think it only affects video files and only when dragging files from outside MC eg. from windows explorer.

This time got some YT downloads which have matroska tags included eg. artist might be the channel name. All the files are already imported and I have set the artist eg. the beatles in the library. Now if I drag and drop the same files to eg. MC's playing now view MC will reanalyze and do the carnac again and applies the matroska tags or other analyze results bak to the files.

A change not to read matroska title for movies was made some time ago so maybe it is media sub type specific and movies are not affect with it. In my case her I have tagged the files as music video
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2024, 09:43:12 am »

When I drag a file that's already imported into MC from Explorer, no analysis is run in the debugger.  I tried an MKV file.

If I update the library from tags it runs.

So I can't explain the problem you encountered.  Maybe we could look at the log to get more clues?

Thanks.
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2024, 11:03:58 am »

Step1 drag and drop video to playlist (file is imported). Artist is parsed as countdown by mc
Step2 edit artist to a-ha. Remove item from playlist (not from library)
Step3 re-drag vide to playlist. Artist is re-parsed as countdown by mc

Provided test file snippet via mail so there is no copyright things..

Thanks for looking at this  :)
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2024, 11:20:35 am »

If you're editing outside MC and drag a second time, it still uses the first edit, correct?

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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2024, 11:20:49 am »

I drag the file a second time and the artist stays "a-ha" (what I changed it to).

The debugger isn't running the analyze code on the second drag.

For me it's making a sidecar right next to the file when I change the tag.

Are you changing the filename subtly?

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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2024, 11:22:29 am »

I guess that sidecar is key word. I don't use sidecars. So I think that if sidecar is used, then mc saves changes there and that is priority. Could you try without sidecars?

E: I do no other steps than those three. no renaming or anything. just drag and drop, edit in mc. drag and drop same file again (and no sidecar feature activated). 100% reproducible for me
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2024, 11:32:24 am »

Thanks.  I reproduced and I'll change it to not update.

Next build:
Changed: When dragging a file that is already imported into the program it will no longer analyze the file again.

Thanks again.
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Re: Carnac Tagging
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2024, 11:41:23 am »

GREAT! Thanks Matt  :)
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