Topic: POLL: What do you use to RIP your Audio CDs? (Read 3469 times)

Matthew · « **on:** April 23, 2004, 01:58:36 pm »

pipsqueak · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2004, 02:06:01 pm »

im lazy and mc is integrated.

i use lame mp3 and ape

[edit: yeah i know thats encoding, but mc does it all in 1 go and as i said im lazy]

paulr · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2004, 02:10:12 pm »

I used to use EAC, but after running some comparisons of WAV files between EAC and MC, and finding zero differences, I switched to MC because, well, it's easier.

bebop · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2004, 02:33:32 pm »

MC all the way..it's fast, it's easy. Have tried many, many other programs..both free and purchased( Monkeyaudio, MMJ, Creative Media Source, WinAmp, Windows Media Player, Sonique, Sony, just to name a few). My conclusions: MC is the best all in one program. I didn't have to search around for codecs to play video or DVD's, didn't have to buy plugins to play or burn MP3's. Didn't have to buy a plug in to convert or edit files. Like I said - it does it all, and it does it so very nicely!!

LonWar · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2004, 02:38:30 pm »

Is there any other app besides MC?

Richard Berg · « **Reply #5 on:** April 23, 2004, 03:31:06 pm »

You don't list EAC? Hello?

xen-uno · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2004, 03:52:08 pm »

Fur sure!..EAC would be a solid second to MC...in short...it ROCKS! It's all I use.

cattani · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2004, 03:56:58 pm »

I use Easy CD-DA Extractor for over 3 years and is a powerful program for this.
Media Center i use for over 1 year.
I voted for Easy CD-DA extractor, i know this soft very well, but Media Center makes many improvement in last year and i love that. Maybe in the future i abandon Easy CD-DA Extractor.

GRAYDOG · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2004, 04:12:05 pm »

I use MC most of the time once in a great while I will use Music Match because of the taging

Alex B · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2004, 04:21:30 pm »

MC 10 with external LAME 3.90.3. for MP3 and MC 10 with internal encoder for APE.

zevele10 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2004, 06:00:48 pm »

A poll about riping without EAC
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your next poll will be about the next president of the USA - but you will put only one candidate

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Sauzee · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2004, 07:01:48 pm »

MC unless I need a cue file when I use EAC.

GHammer · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2004, 08:30:39 pm »

EAC to APE with CUE files.
MakeAPL to get individual selections from the APE file.
If MC would do that (rip to one file and have an index to the selections) I'd just use MC because it rips well.

rocketsauce · « **Reply #13 on:** April 23, 2004, 09:22:32 pm »

Plextools (since I have a Plextor cd-rw drive) when I'm ripping to encode tracks for my library or to share with friends. Feurio! when I'm ripping to burn audio cd-rs.

Rob

paulr · « **Reply #14 on:** April 23, 2004, 09:24:27 pm »

GHammer,

What's the reason you rip to a single file? I've seen other people say they do this, but I am not sure I understand the reason.

Thanks!

modelmaker · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2004, 10:45:39 pm »

As stated, when ripping to ape (Monkey's Audio) with EAC, you can end up with a single file and a cue list. There are no track breaks, live music without spaces between tracks, the same goes for classical music. This is the only true gap-less playback. The cue list allows you to still choose individual tracks.

AoXoMoXoA · « **Reply #16 on:** April 24, 2004, 06:21:30 pm »

EAC

RhinoBanga · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2004, 02:24:47 am »

GHammer · « **Reply #18 on:** April 25, 2004, 02:45:33 am »

Quote from: paulr on April 23, 2004, 09:24:27 pm

GHammer,

What's the reason you rip to a single file? I've seen other people say they do this, but I am not sure I understand the reason.

Thanks!

When you have a single lossless file, you have the complete CD with no gaps between the selections. If you listen to Dark Side Of The Moon for example, it flows from song to song properly.

I use the APL files to have the ability to play only a certain selection from the entire CD. Also when I want to transcode to use my music on another device I use the APL files because I don't often want the entire CD on my portanle.

Anyway, the main idea of the single file is the gapless playback.

paulr · « **Reply #19 on:** April 25, 2004, 02:47:41 am »

Ok, got ya. But I do know that with my configuration (gapless, etc) I have no gaps when I play albums with tracks that run together even though the tracks are in seperate files...

soren · « **Reply #20 on:** April 25, 2004, 04:04:12 am »

Once the JRiver team gets the cue support (both ripping and playback/organizing) implemented... EAC is history!

DocLotus · « **Reply #21 on:** April 25, 2004, 08:23:00 am »

There are other programs ?

EpF · « **Reply #22 on:** April 25, 2004, 10:30:22 am »

EAC - bizarre poll without it as an option!

GHammer · « **Reply #23 on:** April 25, 2004, 10:38:11 am »

Quote from: paulr on April 25, 2004, 02:47:41 am

Ok, got ya. But I do know that with my configuration (gapless, etc) I have no gaps when I play albums with tracks that run together even though the tracks are in seperate files...

If it works for you, cool. But I have tried several albums that do not 'end' between selections and there is always either a pop or silence when going from track x to track y.

In other words, if I have a CD where the music does not stop but continues uninterrupted from selection 1 to selection 2 I can always hear the selection change using seperate files.

The MP3 format causes some problems in itself. MP3 stores audio data in frames, which can't store entire audio CD track without either truncating last samples or adding extra null samples, total length must be a multiply of frame size, being fixed at 1152 samples for MPEG-1 layer 3. MP3 also suffers from encoder/decoder delay causing the decoder to produce additional null samples at the beginning of decoded stream. In order to correct this problem, the MP3 file needs to store two additional numbers, the amount of samples to remove at the beginning of stream, and amount of samples to remove at the end of stream, then the decoder needs to take these numbers into account.

Maybe MC does this. But, since I have to store my music in some format, and I want the format to be lossless, why bother with seperate files when the APE/APL method works so well?

Matt · « **Reply #24 on:** April 25, 2004, 10:40:31 am »

Just wanted to note that if you use APE, you'll get perfect gapless whether you rip as one large file or as individual files. (at least if you rip the individual tracks with MC)

paulr · « **Reply #25 on:** April 25, 2004, 05:49:51 pm »

Well, that explains why I get perfect gapless! My entire library is in the APE format.

GHammer · « **Reply #26 on:** April 25, 2004, 11:41:03 pm »

Quote from: Matt on April 25, 2004, 10:40:31 am

Just wanted to note that if you use APE, you'll get perfect gapless whether you rip as one large file or as individual files. (at least if you rip the individual tracks with MC)

I'll have to give that a try next rip. But the APL files appeal to my geek side too. They're just cool.

soren · « **Reply #27 on:** April 27, 2004, 02:48:57 am »

JRiver,

If you have the energy to go trough the extra steps to create APL files, you end up with two entries of the album once you import the directory.

Can you add a setting somewhere where you can choose to ignore the .APE file if there are .APL files in the dir?

/Sören

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