Topic: OT: MC Users Creating Podcasts??? (Read 4573 times)

elpaolo · « **on:** August 06, 2005, 09:39:13 pm »

Anyone on here have a podcast? I just made my first today (i.e. baby's first podcast). Actually, I'm calling it an Audiocast, but whatever. Here's the link:

http://marcoe.net/digitallatenight/

And description:

Spanning electronica and rock, Digital Late Night features some of the best free audio on the web. The primary sub-genres include ambient, downtempo, trip-hop, dream pop, space rock, and slowcore…but expect frequent deviations. Hosted by Paolo. Disseminated semi-regularly.

It'd be fun if other people with a podcast (or rough one) posted a link on here. We'd have our own little MC Podcast community. w00t.

paolo

Omni · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2005, 09:49:54 pm »

Wouldn't that be illegal?

elpaolo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2005, 09:53:52 pm »

Well, right. I guess I'm not even sure about the free tracks I pulled. Free as in from legit sites where bands put up promo tracks. They're still copyright-protected, I'm guessing...but...sorta out in the wild, too. I dunno.

Bluesman · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2005, 10:40:16 pm »

I have a test podcast here http://www.bluesbeatradio.com/ , it's a copyright free original blues song performed by one of my mates and i have permission to use it.

if you like it let him know at mailto:terryiredale@aol.com
Cheers,
Geoff

KingSparta · « **Reply #4 on:** September 05, 2005, 09:27:26 am »

So how do you make a podcast?

Could I Host A PodCast From My Web Site?

I Currently Have 12 Files At

http://www.spartasoftware.com/OTR/ListeningRoom/index.html

Could They Be Turned Into A PodCast?

If So How?

I Looked Around The Internet But I Am Lost.

JimH · « **Reply #5 on:** September 05, 2005, 10:59:31 am »

Here's an article with some basic info:
http://www.engadget.com/entry/5843952395227141/

A podcast is usually an MP3 file that is linked to by an RSS feed.

In the article, skip down to the section called "Making the podcast feed..."

Yes, you can make one.

KingSparta · « **Reply #6 on:** September 05, 2005, 02:41:28 pm »

well i guess basicly (maybe)

if i knew how to use the xml then i could input links and the xml would be the podcast feed?

cause i do not see anything else i need other than a xml file with links.

maybe i am wrong, confused and dazed.

if true there should be a easyer way of creating a xml to create a podcast feed.

JimH · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2005, 03:45:36 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 05, 2005, 02:41:28 pm

maybe i am wrong, confused and dazed.

No. You may be confused and dazed, but that still doesn't make you wrong. I know because I am c and d, also (I think).

jgreen · « **Reply #8 on:** September 05, 2005, 04:00:30 pm »

There seeems to be some confusion about being deazed. Hope this helps:

Been Dazed and Confused for so long it's not true.
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
soul of a woman was created below.

KingSparta · « **Reply #9 on:** September 05, 2005, 05:22:46 pm »

Interesting, i will need to do some more reading.

I was hoping for a program to allow me type in a bunch of urls (like 10 or 12) and it would create a xml poscast form.

IlPadrino · « **Reply #10 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:25:03 pm »

Quote from: starflyer on August 06, 2005, 09:39:13 pm

Anyone on here have a podcast? I just made my first today (i.e. baby's first podcast). Actually, I'm calling it an Audiocast, but whatever. Here's the link:

http://marcoe.net/digitallatenight/

Paolo,

It doesn't seem you're really doing a podcast... what's the RSS/Atom URL?

King: Podcasting is just a means for distribution. It's benefit is in discovery (thanks to podcast directories) and auto-downloading (thanks to RSS aggregators that handle enclosures). With an RSS (or Atom) feed, you can allow people to get at your content without visiting a website manually. There are plently of podcast creation applications: Castblaster, Odeo, and EasyPodcast just to name a few. You are correct that you could manually create the RSS, but that sort of defeats the purpose of podcasting: it should be easy and automatic to create the audio file (there's nothing that requires it to be an MP3) and then publish it in an RSS feed.

I think there's still lots of confusion about what an RSS (or Atom) feed is and why it's useful.

pank2002 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:44:28 pm »

Quote from: jgreen on September 05, 2005, 04:00:30 pm

There seeems to be some confusion about being deazed. Hope this helps:

Been Dazed and Confused for so long it's not true.
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
soul of a woman was created below.

I like Led Zepp too

Sparta,
There's some web site somewhere which will generate the whole xml file for you. You just have to fill out some stuff (like name of the cast etc.) I don't have the link on this PC, though, but you should be able to find some web based rss generator.

Edit: I forgot, which will support podcast first, Thunderbird (stable since they are the only ones which gets translated) or MC? You did talk about it at some point...

KingSparta · « **Reply #12 on:** September 05, 2005, 06:46:19 pm »

well been looking for 2 days

GHammer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2005, 11:32:22 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 05, 2005, 06:46:19 pm

well been looking for 2 days

Try these:

http://audiofeeds.org/tutorial.php

http://www.digitalpodcast.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=25&sid=5d940b305c5b6925863c51a30d05a88f

When you are finished:
http://audio.weblogs.com/feedDebug.html

KingSparta · « **Reply #14 on:** September 06, 2005, 05:57:23 am »

This Does Not Work, If Someone Can Get It To Work, Please Let Me Know Why It Does Not

this is the URL: http://www.spartasoftware.com/MyPodCast.rss

The validater errors on the date for some reason

Thanks

Quote

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<rss version="2.0">
<channel>
<title>My Program</title>
<link>http://www.spartasoftware.com</link>
<description>My first podcast</description>
<language>en-us</language>
<copyright>2005</copyright>
<lastBuildDate>9/6/2005</lastbuildDate>
<webMaster>SpartaSoftware.com@nc.rr.com</webMaster>

<item>
<title>Today’s Radio Show - Monday</title>
<description>Here’s my Monday podcast. Hope you like it.</description>
<pubDate>9/6/2005</pubDate>

<enclosure url=" http://www.spartasoftware.com/FawltyTowers_1988___MrsRichards__.mp3" length="4834743" type="audio/mpeg" />

</item>

<item>
<title>Yesterday's’s Radio Show - Sunday</title>
<description>Here’s my Sunday podcast. Hope you like it.</description>
<pubDate>9/6/2005</pubDate>

<enclosure url=" http://www.spartasoftware.com/FawltyTowers_1988___TheBuilders__.mp3" length="4834743" type="audio/mpeg" />

</item>

</channel>
</rss>

KingSparta · « **Reply #15 on:** September 06, 2005, 06:44:03 am »

Maybe Because the case in

<lastBuildDate> and </lastbuildDate>

Is not the same

IlPadrino · « **Reply #16 on:** September 06, 2005, 08:03:58 am »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 06, 2005, 06:44:03 am

Maybe Because the case in

<lastBuildDate> and </lastbuildDate>

Is not the same

The XML you've written is not well-formed because the element <lastBuildDate> doesn't have an end tag. You are correct that capitalization counts, so </lastbuildDate> won't do.

The question about validation (i.e. does it conform to the RSS 2.0 schema) is another question. When I get home from work, I can check for you - or you can use one of the on-line validators for RSS such as http://feedvalidator.org/.

If I may ask, why are you creating RSS feeds by hand? What is the goal?

KingSparta · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2005, 08:42:51 am »

I was Using A Sample Form From

http://audiofeeds.org/tutorial.php

It seems also the url in the sample has a space in front of it, this is not correct.

once i corrected the two items it Seems to work

Here Is An Updated Script

Quote

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<rss version="2.0">
<channel>
<title>Sparta Old Time Radio PodCast For September</title>
<link>http://www.spartasoftware.com</link>
<description>My first podcast</description>
<language>en-us</language>
<copyright>2005</copyright>
<lastBuildDate>9/6/2005</lastBuildDate>
<webMaster>SpartaSoftware.com@nc.rr.com</webMaster>

<item>
<title>Today?s Radio Show - Monday</title>
<description>Here?s my Monday podcast. Hope you like it.</description>
<pubDate>9/6/2005</pubDate>
<enclosure url="http://www.spartasoftware.com/FawltyTowers_1988___MrsRichards__.mp3" length="4834743" type="audio/mpeg" />
</item>

<item>
<title>Yesterday's?s Radio Show - Sunday</title>
<description>Here?s my Sunday podcast. Hope you like it.</description>
<pubDate>9/6/2005</pubDate>
<enclosure url="http://www.spartasoftware.com/FawltyTowers_1988___TheBuilders__.mp3" length="4834743" type="audio/mpeg" />
</item>

</channel>
</rss>

GHammer · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2005, 09:46:57 am »

Glad you fought through it. All is working for you now I guess.

I'll be interested to see what you 'cast

KingSparta · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2005, 10:16:38 am »

I Found Another Validator

http://feedvalidator.org/

I Found That You Must Include The Dates Like

Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:00:01 EST

Of Course No One Tells You This

I Set Up A PodCast It Has Like 9 Files In It

http://www.spartasoftware.com/MyPodCast.rss

I Guess I Need To Know How To Put It Behind A Link Now

KingSparta · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2005, 10:45:17 am »

Quote

If I may ask, why are you creating RSS feeds by hand? What is the goal?

Is there a program place that will create a podcast .rss form for me?

free?

The goal is to get it working and served up by my own site

JimH · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2005, 11:00:29 am »

IlPad gave a few above.

KingSparta · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2005, 11:24:37 am »

JimH, I Went Back And Now I Understand, What He Was Saying.., Thanks For The Prod

Here Is A Basic Flash Demo Of Podcasting And What It Is All About

http://andymatic.com/images/podcasting/how_podcasting_works.htm

KingSparta · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2005, 07:12:18 pm »

On My Most Recent Adventure, This New Page Has A Pod Cast With The PUPU Player Playing The PodCast Play List.

http://www.spartasoftware.com/OTR/ListeningRoom/index.html

IlPadrino · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2005, 08:08:31 pm »

King: Good stuff... I for one would be interested in subscribing to some of your OTR as a podcast feed. The flash-based podcast aggregator (pupu) is interesting, but it doesn't seem too useful to me - other than as a way to leverage your RSS feed to people who can't spell RSS.

Keep it coming...

JimH · « **Reply #25 on:** September 06, 2005, 08:35:15 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 06, 2005, 07:12:18 pm

On My Most Recent Adventure, This New Page Has A Pod Cast With The PUPU Player Playing The PodCast Play List.

http://www.spartasoftware.com/OTR/ListeningRoom/index.html

It works. I'm listening to "The Adventure of Nick the Knife". Thanks!

KingSparta · « **Reply #26 on:** September 06, 2005, 09:16:35 pm »

I Think I Will Start Making A MC Podcast Plug-In (Since I need It Now)

To Generate Podcast Playlists..

I Think i have the info now that i needed.

Was Hoping At Somepoint That MC Will Use Podcast Playlists in the future.

IlPadrino · « **Reply #27 on:** September 06, 2005, 11:25:14 pm »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 06, 2005, 09:16:35 pm

I Think I Will Start Making A MC Podcast Plug-In (Since I need It Now)

To Generate Podcast Playlists..

I Think i have the info now that i needed.

Was Hoping At Somepoint That MC Will Use Podcast Playlists in the future.

King,

What do you mean by "podcast playlist"? How would users consume it? How would it be created?

Sounds interesting...

Scott-

KingSparta · « **Reply #28 on:** September 07, 2005, 05:16:29 am »

that sounds like a new thread in the 3rd party forum, but i was thinking about it when tossing and turning.

IlPadrino · « **Reply #29 on:** September 07, 2005, 07:50:43 am »

Quote from: KingSparta on September 07, 2005, 05:16:29 am

that sounds like a new thread in the 3rd party forum, but i was thinking about it when tossing and turning.

Please think about this: the MC XML Export plugin can already be used to create an RSS feed from a playlist... it would be trivial to create an XSLT that transforms an MPL into RSS or Atom. And every time some use like this comes up I can't help but think how much cleaner and more efficient (and elegant) it'd be if JRiver included the ability to transform the library natively rather than having to depend on a plugin.

JimH · « **Reply #30 on:** September 07, 2005, 08:11:53 am »

We're working in the podcast area. We should have something to look at in a few weeks.

KingSparta · « **Reply #31 on:** September 07, 2005, 08:18:40 am »

Out Standing...

I guess We Will Be Watching And Waiting At The Edges Of Our Seats, But No Pressure.

KingSparta · « **Reply #32 on:** September 12, 2005, 12:17:18 pm »

In the mean time something i have been working on

A Plug-in Called "PodCast Creator"

It Will Create The Podcast XML\RSS Playlist, And Upload The Media Files To Your WebSite.

Use This Link For Comments

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=29468.0

INTERACT FORUM

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