Topic: Do touch tablets\netbook touch screens work in remote desktop mode? (Read 5420 times)

HTPC4ME · « **on:** November 23, 2009, 10:03:35 am »

thinking of getting a netbook tablet, and curious if jrivers theaterview will work with a touch screen via remote desktop?
TY

davros · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:28:29 am »

Yes, it does. I currently do this.

To make this easier I recomend....
1) You do some registry tweaks to allow multiple concurrent users to login to the MC PC and also allow for a blank password (may want to consider the security impact on this and also may need changes to other PC's on your network if they use Windows 7/Vista to allow sharing with a PC that has a blank password - for me the convenience is absolutelty worth it).
2) Create an icon on the desktop of the MC PC which you'll click to log off the remote session. This icon runs a logoff command has a special command switch/parameter that returns screen control to the MC PC without it "defaulting" to the user login screen.
Edit: this is the command I have assigned to an icon on my Media PC to logoff..."%windir%\System32\tscon.exe 0 /dest:console" and under windows 7 I think it is slightly different "tscon.exe 1 /dest:console ".

That way, you can just remote desktop in and out with minimal fuss.

I'll see if I can find a post on the web that describes how to do this....otherwise Google is your friend.

MrHaugen · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2009, 03:43:07 am »

Remote desktop in Theater View requires that you have Windows 7 on both I think. Vista MIGHT also work?
I tested this the other day, but it was not a pleasant experience at all. It can improve if I turn down drawing quality etc I guess. But I doubt it'll work good enough.

If I were you, I'd rather install MC14 on the Notebook and using Treeview to run remote Theater View form the Notebook it self. I think that works better. You'd have to have library server running on the HTPC in this case.

davros · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2009, 05:26:30 am »

Doh, missed that one critical word...

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theaterview

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Apologies for my post, I am running Xp on my HTPC with MC14 and I can confirm that theater view does not work when viewed via remote desktop from my Windows 7 macine or from my Xp Desktop machine.

MrHaugen · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:01:13 am »

No need to apologize

The thing with the tscon.exe 0 /dest:console was good to know. I'm not sure that this would ever work on Windows 7 though. Even with the 0 turned to a 1. It's not supposed to have a separate console. At least that's what I've heard... I'll test it out later on. Would be good not to have to log in again every time.

JimH · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:56:49 am »

Quote from: davros on November 24, 2009, 05:26:30 am

... I am running Xp on my HTPC with MC14 and I can confirm that theater view does not work when viewed via remote desktop from my Windows 7 machine or from my Xp Desktop machine.

That isn't an MC bug. It's likely that no 3D works in that scenario.

MrHaugen · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2009, 07:29:30 am »

Quote from: JimH on November 24, 2009, 06:56:49 am

That isn't an MC bug. It's likely that no 3D works in that scenario.

Nope. Nothing to do with MC. XP and Vista just don't support the DirectX and Direct3D through Remote Desktop like W7 do. The new Remote Desktop Protocol allows commands to be sent from the server and processed on the client. It's supposed to handle 1080P movies well. My experience does not support this, but it might have been a faulty config on my side.

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:15:56 am »

thinking bout going with this one... http://www.amazon.com/Viliv-S7-PRE-H-7-Inch-Tablet/dp/B002VBXR2O/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259079185&sr=1-14

viliv7 site.. http://www.myviliv.com/eng/

whats your guys opinion on this one? or do you suggest the asus eec? http://www.amazon.com/Touch-8-9-Inch-Tablet-Netbook-Battery/dp/B002GCR04Y/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259079633&sr=1-8

do you know if the eec offers free windows 7 upgrade?

MrHaugen · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:53:56 am »

The Viliv thingy looks pretty nice. Way to much bezel for my taste, but I'm sure it'll work well. It's more the "correct" size for a remote device than the Eee imo. I would check how responsive the screen is though. I hate having to push such things several times for it to react. Maybe look at some video reviews of it?

JimH · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2009, 11:05:12 am »

Asus has a T1 with a touch screen.

I saw an Acer tablet this weekend. I think it's just come out.

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #10 on:** November 24, 2009, 11:41:42 am »

jim whats the acer model number so i can video review it. ty

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2009, 11:44:39 am »

yeah mr haugen lots of reviews on utube.. many not english but from what ive seen works great. just concerned if i can get the win 7 on it. says on there site upgrade notice. but still a little leary

JimH · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:31:48 pm »

Quote from: xtacbyme on November 24, 2009, 11:41:42 am

jim whats the acer model number so i can video review it. ty

It was this one:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2009/11/microsoft_gives_away_acer_tablet_pc.html

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:11:08 pm »

thanks... um is it to late for me to get my free one?

HiFiTubes · « **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2009, 11:57:13 pm »

Forgive me, but with Treemote combined with Library Server, do we still need remote desktop now?

Shiraz · « **Reply #15 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:54:09 am »

I'm using a netbook to control my media PC which sits in the living room. I use Tremote for the majority of things but there are certain things not yet built into tremote very well, like for example you can't rename files (at the file system level) from the tremote client. For that, and a variety of other things that pop up, I use remote desktop.

Cheers

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2009, 10:52:02 am »

how are your guy's speeds with your netbooks\umpc's? do you have large libraries? are you all connecting with remote desktop? are your units wireless n? do think this is the way to go for a remote?

I'm still undecided and have researched my brains out trying to figure out which will work the best. for speed, touch, functionality and above all size (smaller the better) Oh and another big question ive been thinkin about.. if i buy a small umpc without a keyboard just the screen, how does one search in theaterview? is there a shortcut one can press to bring up a touch keyboard in theaterview?

Also correct me if im wrong.. but if we will be ONLY using this as a remote, one doesnt really need to worry about speeds or processing power correct?
I mean it will be remoting from the htpc.. so basically, its just sending the video to the netbook umpc screen? I'm really scared about large libraries and thumbnail loading!?

JimH · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2009, 11:23:15 am »

With MC, the Tremote feature might work best:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=52261.0

The local copy of MC controls another across the room and plays back from it.

There is a touchscreen skin for MC. It's called "Obsidian Touch". Theater View has an on screen keyboard.

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2009, 12:37:51 pm »

hi jim i will post on the tremote thread about devices
TY for reply..

i never seen the obsidian touch. like the look of it.

i'm not finding where i would enable onscreen keyboard though? is this a shortcut?

JimH · « **Reply #19 on:** December 12, 2009, 02:39:13 pm »

Quote from: xtacbyme on December 12, 2009, 12:37:51 pm

i'm not finding where i would enable onscreen keyboard though? is this a shortcut?

You should see it when you choose Search.

HTPC4ME · « **Reply #20 on:** December 12, 2009, 02:42:28 pm »

aww ok i thought it was a shortcut option. see when i use theaterview. i go into last level the filenames. and ya can immediatelly just type be and it will automatically goto benhur in the list.. where when i would have a tablt with on screen that wouldnt work then cause no keyboard would be present i would have to chose search?

JimH · « **Reply #21 on:** December 12, 2009, 02:46:54 pm »

Try a "flick". Grab the screen, move up or down quickly and let it go while you're still moving. You can do this with a mouse or your finger.

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