Topic: JRiver media center 15 DVD issues (Read 5520 times)

triskadekaphobic · « **on:** July 05, 2010, 11:54:50 pm »

Hi,

I love your JRiver media center but there are 2 issues which I wasn't able to resolve:

1) When I want to play a DVD which is ripped into a directory in the hard disk there is no way to direct the player to that directory. Not to a specific vob file but to the whole directory.
2) When playing a file with sound which is not regular stereo (IE dts/AC3) I get video but no sound. Playing the same file with VLC player does play the sound so I believe it's an issue of configuring JRiver player to decode dts/AC3.
How is it done ?

Thanks

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2010, 06:36:51 am »

Quote from: triskadekaphobic on July 05, 2010, 11:54:50 pm

Hi,

I love your JRiver media center but there are 2 issues which I wasn't able to resolve:

1) When I want to play a DVD which is ripped into a directory in the hard disk there is no way to direct the player to that directory. Not to a specific vob file but to the whole directory.
2) When playing a file with sound which is not regular stereo (IE dts/AC3) I get video but no sound. Playing the same file with VLC player does play the sound so I believe it's an issue of configuring JRiver player to decode dts/AC3.

Try installing CCCP for #2. Read the DirectShow Guide on MC's Wiki page.

For #1, if you've imported the files, the DVD should show up in MC. You shouldn't have to find a VOB in a directory.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2010, 06:52:38 am »

Thanks

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #3 on:** August 08, 2010, 03:48:57 am »

Whatever I tried doesn't help.... ?

Apparently I have a problem playing any audio that is embedded in DVD MP2.
I did the following experiment:

1. I made sure I play MP2 with plain DVD_LPCM_AUDIO (used gspot.exe to verify that)
2. In "FFDSHOW audio decoder configuration" I made sure LCPM is enabled.
3. What ever audio I try, my Media Center 15 does not play MP2 sound. I see video but audio is mute.
4. The problem only shows up when using Media Canter 15. Any other apps are OK.
5. My media center 15 does play audio in non MP2 video (mkv files, mp3, wav etc.) . The only problem is with MP2 Audio.

Please help ! I paid money for this program and it doesn't work for me.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2010, 02:04:12 pm »

I need to correct myself...
I get no audio in any movie format when using JRiver media center (other programs do have audio in all movie formats).
I do get audio when playing music files with media center.
I installed CCCP.

Alex B · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2010, 02:54:18 pm »

It is not clear what you mean by LPCM & MP2. Do you mean LPCM audio in MPEG container or MPEG-1 Audio Layer II in any container (.vob, .mpg, etc)?

Quote

used gspot.exe to verify that

Gspot is old and does not detect all formats. You could try Mediainfo for checking the file contents:
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
A portable version that does not require installation is available here:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MediaInfo

If the audio stream is in the MPEG-1 Audio Layer II format you can enable it in the FDDShow audio decoder settings.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:32:32 pm »

Note that it happens in any video format that contains any audio format. Not just MP1 and MP2. I verified again with MediaInfo.
By the way...I have windows 7.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:30:58 pm »

Is this site the official support for JRiver ?
I'm surprised to find that such a fundamental problem has no answer ...

No audio for any video on windows 7

Alex B · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2010, 04:55:25 am »

I don't have any problems with DVD audio on Windows 7. Propably your problem is just a configuration issue.

More info is needed to solve the problem:

1. What exactly is the file format? What program did you use for ripping the DVDs? Have you ripped the DVDs in the original format to VIDEO_TS folders (that contain a bunch of files) _or_ have you converted them to single video files? In the latter case, what is the format?

2. You have not answered my question about the format of the audio track. Is it uncompressed PCM, AC3/DTS, or MPEG 1 Audio Layer II (aka MP2)? If you have various formats that don't work we could first try to solve the problem with your most common format.

3. So you have tried MediaInfo, but could you also post what it tells about the formats? It should be able to show exactly the included stream formats (in .vob, .mpg, avi, mkv, etc file types)

4. When you are playing a video that does not have sound right-click the display to open the right-click menu and select: DirectShow Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard. Post the info here.

5. Anything else that might help to help you...

Mr ChriZ · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2010, 05:49:46 am »

Quote from: triskadekaphobic on August 10, 2010, 11:30:58 pm

I'm surprised to find that such a fundamental problem has no answer ...

Bear in mind that the people with the best answers may live in a different time zone to you and maybe a sleep ;-)
I also play DVD's all the time with no Audio problems, but it sounds like Alex has more detailed questions for you here.

JimH · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2010, 06:54:20 am »

Yes, it's official support. You could read the thread called "Is this support?" at the top of this board.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2010, 11:33:12 am »

Quote from: Alex B on August 11, 2010, 04:55:25 am

I don't have any problems with DVD audio on Windows 7. Propably your problem is just a configuration issue.

More info is needed to solve the problem:

1. What exactly is the file format? What program did you use for ripping the DVDs? Have you ripped the DVDs in the original format to VIDEO_TS folders (that contain a bunch of files) _or_ have you converted them to single video files? In the latter case, what is the format?

2. You have not answered my question about the format of the audio track. Is it uncompressed PCM, AC3/DTS, or MPEG 1 Audio Layer II (aka MP2)? If you have various formats that don't work we could first try to solve the problem with your most common format.

3. So you have tried MediaInfo, but could you also post what it tells about the formats? It should be able to show exactly the included stream formats (in .vob, .mpg, avi, mkv, etc file types)

4. When you are playing a video that does not have sound right-click the display to open the right-click menu and select: DirectShow Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard. Post the info here.

5. Anything else that might help to help you...

Thanks for the reply Gentlemen,

1) I use DVD shrink to rip the DVD.
   It is in VIDEO_TS folders with VOB files as main media files.

4) Filter Graph Info:

   Filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   CLSID: {138130AF-A79B-45D5-B4AA-87697457BA87}
   Host: c:\program files (x86)\common files\ahead\dsfilter\neaudio.ax
   Input Pin 'Digital Audio In'
   Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'Digital Audio Out'

   Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
   Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
   Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
   Connected to pin 'XForm Out' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
   Input Pin 'EVR Input2'
   Connected to pin '~Subpicture Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
   Input Pin 'XForm In'
   Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin 'XForm Out'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input1' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo

   Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
   Input Pin 'Video Input'
   Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
   Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
   Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input2' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'DVD Navigator'
   CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\qdvd.dll
   Output Pin 'Video'
   Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'AC3'
   Connected to pin 'Digital Audio In' of filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_LPCM_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'SubPicture'
   Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2010, 11:36:14 am »

2)+3) Media_info output for all files in the DVD at the end of this post. I tried to play all audio types in this DVD including PCM, to no avail.

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP
Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Menu
File size : 16.0 KiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Text
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Bit depth : 2 bits

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Menu
File size : 16.0 KiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC

Audio
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Text
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Bit depth : 2 bits

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 76.3 MiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 8 260 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.797

Audio
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -103ms

Text #1
ID : 32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding

Text #2
ID : 33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding

Menu

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP
Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Program
File size : 72.0 KiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC

Audio #1
ID : 0 (0x0)
Format : PCM
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Audio #3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Channel(s) : 5 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Menu
List (Audio) : 0

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Program
File size : 72.0 KiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC

Audio #1
ID : 0 (0x0)
Format : PCM
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Audio #2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Audio #3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Channel(s) : 5 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

Menu
List (Audio) : 0

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1.59 MiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : N=1
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 9 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.869

Text #1
ID : 32 (0x20)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Video delay : 26ms

Text #2
ID : 33 (0x21)
Format : RLE
Format/Info : Run-length encoding
Video delay : 26ms

Menu

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 21mn 36s
Overall bit rate : 6 626 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 21mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 958 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 6 869 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.479
Stream size : 766 MiB (75%)

Audio
ID : 160 (0xA0)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 21mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 237 MiB (23%)

Menu

General
Complete name : C:\Users\zuka\Desktop\Morricone\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 1 024 MiB
Duration : 21mn 13s
Overall bit rate : 6 744 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Duration : 21mn 13s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 073 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 6 869 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.490
Stream size : 770 MiB (75%)

Audio
ID : 160 (0xA0)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 21mn 13s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -549ms
Stream size : 233 MiB (23%)

Menu

JimH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2010, 12:54:48 pm »

We've had reports of problems with the Nero filter.

Yaobing · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2010, 04:06:42 pm »

Quote from: triskadekaphobic on August 11, 2010, 11:33:12 am

4) Filter Graph Info:

   Filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   CLSID: {138130AF-A79B-45D5-B4AA-87697457BA87}
   Host: c:\program files (x86)\common files\ahead\dsfilter\neaudio.ax
   Input Pin 'Digital Audio In'
   Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'Digital Audio Out'

The output pin of Nero Digital Audio Decoder is not connected to an audio renderer. That is why you do not get audio.

It appears that Nero Digital Audio Decoder does not like the audio renderer that we try to connect to it. Please try the following:

1. In Tools > Options > Video, check which audio output mode is selected. It is under "Audio for Video, DVD, and Television", "Playback Device". You can try different devices from the list. The first one is "Same as device used in audio playback".

2. Use a different audio decoder. The option is also at Tools > Options > Video, under "Decoders, Renderers, & More (select file type to configure below)". First select the file type "DVD Video (ifo, vob)", then select one filter from "Audio decoders" drop down list. If the list does not contain much choice, you should consider installing some free DirectShow filters. CCCP would be a good option.

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2010, 12:18:18 am »

Finally I hear music

Now, being an audiophile, I want to listen to all decoders, configure and decide what sounds best.
In "decoders renderers & more" I define "DVD video (ifo vob)". There are 4 options of decoders.
Here it what I get when setting each option. I attached debug for every option in case of problems:

1). ffdshow : Works fine !
2). Automatic : It seem to choose Nero.
3). Nero : There is sound but knowing this musical content so well (Ennio Morricone's awsome DVD) I know it can be better.
   When I enter configuration => properties and make a change there is no option to "apply". It's grayed out. Why ?

Filter Graph Info:

   Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
   CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
   Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
   Connected to pin 'Digital Audio Out' of filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

   Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
   Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
   Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
   Connected to pin 'XForm Out' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
   Input Pin 'EVR Input2'
   Connected to pin '~Subpicture Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
   Input Pin 'XForm In'
   Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin 'XForm Out'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input1' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo

   Filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   CLSID: {138130AF-A79B-45D5-B4AA-87697457BA87}
   Host: c:\program files (x86)\common files\ahead\dsfilter\neaudio.ax
   Input Pin 'Digital Audio In'
   Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'Digital Audio Out'
   Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

   Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
   Input Pin 'Video Input'
   Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
   Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
   Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input2' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'DVD Navigator'
   CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\qdvd.dll
   Output Pin 'Video'
   Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'AC3'
   Connected to pin 'Digital Audio In' of filter 'Nero Digital Audio Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_LPCM_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'SubPicture'
   Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

4). Microsoft DTV DVD Audio decoder. When choosing this option MC15 downloaded some software and rebooted the PC.
   When playing the content again there was no sound. why ?

   Filter Graph Info:

   Filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
   CLSID: {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
   Input Pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)'
   Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'FFDShow Audio Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

   Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
   Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
   Connected to pin 'Video Output 1' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Input Pin 'EVR Input1'
   Connected to pin 'XForm Out' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo
   Input Pin 'EVR Input2'
   Connected to pin '~Subpicture Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'FFDShow Audio Decoder'
   CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
   Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
   Output Pin 'Out'
   Connected to pin 'Audio Input pin (rendered)' of filter 'Default DirectSound Device'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Input Pin 'In'
   Connected to pin 'AC3' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

   Filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   CLSID: {E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\quartz.dll
   Input Pin 'XForm In'
   Connected to pin '~Line21 Output' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin 'XForm Out'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input1' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo

   Filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   CLSID: {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\msmpeg2vdec.dll
   Input Pin 'Video Input'
   Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Input Pin 'Subpicture Input'
   Connected to pin 'SubPicture' of filter 'DVD Navigator'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'Video Output 1'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
   Output Pin '~Line21 Output'
   Connected to pin 'XForm In' of filter 'Line 21 Decoder 2'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_AUXLine21Data Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_Line21_GOPPacket, Format type FORMAT_None
   Output Pin '~Subpicture Output'
   Connected to pin 'EVR Input2' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_AI44, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2

   Filter 'DVD Navigator'
   CLSID: {9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}
   Host: c:\windows\syswow64\qdvd.dll
   Output Pin 'Video'
   Connected to pin 'Video Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
   Output Pin 'AC3'
   Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'FFDShow Audio Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
   Output Pin 'SubPicture'
   Connected to pin 'Subpicture Input' of filter 'Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder'
   Major type MEDIATYPE_DVD_ENCRYPTED_PACK Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DVD_SUBPICTURE, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

Yaobing · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2010, 10:23:08 am »

Quote from: triskadekaphobic on August 12, 2010, 12:18:18 am

1). ffdshow : Works fine !

FFDShow is a fine choice for AC3 and DTS decoding. I would just use FFDShow.

Quote from: triskadekaphobic on August 12, 2010, 12:18:18 am

3). Nero : There is sound but knowing this musical content so well (Ennio Morricone's awsome DVD) I know it can be better.
When I enter configuration => properties and make a change there is no option to "apply". It's grayed out. Why ?

So Nero did connect to "Default DirectSound Device". At least that is good to know. The quality issue is a Nero one. I assume the Apply button you referred to above is Nero's. We only display the property pages of filters if they offer them, but how they really work is out of our control.

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4). Microsoft DTV DVD Audio decoder. When choosing this option MC15 downloaded some software and rebooted the PC.
When playing the content again there was no sound. why ?

Microsoft DTV DVD Audio decoder does not actually decode AC3 Audio in non-Microsoft applications, such as MC. It only offer SPDIF pass through. Therefore you should not use it unless your audio output is fed into a external hardware decoder (amplifier/receiver) that is capable of AC3 decoding.

If you do not tell MC that you have such passthrough setup, MC assumes that you do not and tries to replace Microsoft filter with FFDShow filter. There are two things that did not seem to have worked correctly and are mysteries.

Mystery one: MC should not have rebooted your system. It appears that your already have installed CCCP, and therefore FFDShow. MC should just silently replaced MS filter with FFDShow.
Mystery two: After MC successfully replaced MS filter with FFDShow decoder (your graph info indicates that it was successful), your got no audio, while you did get audio if you selected FFDShow directly.

Are you running Windows 7? Did you log onto your system as an administrator?

triskadekaphobic · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2010, 02:51:48 pm »

OK Yaobing, I might as well use ffdshow option.
If other programs (Microsoft media player) also use the same ffdshow decoder how come MC 15 produces better sound ?
I found MC 15 sound stage is clearer. The separation between instruments is better and the dynamics of the music is much more fun to listen to.

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