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[Yaobing]

Attached you'll find the log after trying to play the channel with the DLL included in installation folder. Now MC says "something went wrong with playback" after a few seconds when trying to open up the stream.

Did you add the channel according to this post by beckma?
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,67473.msg737951.html#msg737951

If so, you did not enter the frequency correctly.  The frequency is 11494 MHz.  In MC you would enter it as 11494000 (KHz).  I think you did 11949 (so two errors there, 949 instead of 494, and missing three 0s).

Please correct that and try again.  You can go to "Manage Channels", select the SatIP channel, and click "Edit" button to change its parameters, in particular, frequency.

What I also noted now: since adding the channel last time i get a continuous popup of "mc2xml" and "mc2xml lineup" selections. They come up every few seconds regardless of my selections.

By adding a channel manually, you really would not mess up with existing EPG modes.   Did you actually go through the entire setup procedure (which might mess things up)?  You can click "Load Program Guide..." and check that your scheduled loading methods are still set up correctly.

[tyler69]

Thanks for noticing, I changed the frequency accordingly. However, the mc2xml window still pops up. Now also a cmd window opens up and I can see that somewhen it says "error: fileopen" or something before it closes. This is after I selected a satellite in the second mc2xml window. Attached you'll find the log.

I have no idea what to select in those mc2xml windows, tried "microsoft" and "microsoft legacy" but that made no difference. I also tried selecting all of the available Astra 19.2 satellites (why are there so many?).

EDIT: ok, i managed to fix the issue with mc2xml. it does not pop up anymore. I added another "epg loading mode" and typed in "DigitalDevices" for "provider token". Deactivated the first one, seems to work now. However, my questions remain and also I think this procedure could be optimized with regard to user experience. I can't attach the log since its 3mb.

[Yaobing]

Thanks for noticing, I changed the frequency accordingly. However, the mc2xml window still pops up. Now also a cmd window opens up and I can see that somewhen it says "error: fileopen" or something before it closes. This is after I selected a satellite in the second mc2xml window. Attached you'll find the log.

I have no idea what to select in those mc2xml windows, tried "microsoft" and "microsoft legacy" but that made no difference. I also tried selecting all of the available Astra 19.2 satellites (why are there so many?).

EDIT: ok, i managed to fix the issue with mc2xml. it does not pop up anymore. I added another "epg loading mode" and typed in "DigitalDevices" for "provider token". Deactivated the first one, seems to work now. However, my questions remain and also I think this procedure could be optimized with regard to user experience. I can't attach the log since its 3mb.

Before you started testing SatIP device, were you using MC TV for other tuner types?  If so you should restore to that in order to avoid interruption.  The SatIP device testing does not require EPG.  All we are trying to do is to get the SatIP server to stream video to MC.

Are you able to play the channel after correcting the frequency?  If still not, please provide a log for just that activity.  Restart MC twice to get rid of the old log files so you will not end up with a huge log package.

[tyler69]

No, no other tuners. No, I'm also not able to play a channel. It says "waiting for signal lock" for a while and then "no signal". In the menu bar on top it says "starting tv".

[Yaobing]

We are making progress.  I see a promising sign in the last log file.  We were actually getting something streamed from the server.

Please try this new DLL.

[tyler69]

Glad to see we're making progress. However, to me the DLL makes no difference in behaviour of MC. Attached you'll find the log.

[Yaobing]

We are getting warmer.

New DLL.

[tyler69]

OK. i have a picture. stream seems to work after "adding required components" popped up twice.

[Yaobing]

OK. i have a picture. stream seems to work after "adding required components" popped up twice.

"Adding required components" is done if you never played video/TV since last codec (LAV filters) update.  You should not see it happening again, until a newer version of LAV filters is required.

[Yaobing]

I added the following to MC22 change history:

Fixed: MC failed to identify and map audio and video PIDs when playing a SAT>IP channel.

This will be in an upcoming new build.

[tyler69]

Thanks. What's next on the agenda with regard to sat>ip / digitaldevices support?

[JimH]

Congratulations, Yaobing.  Thanks for your help, Tyler.

[Yaobing]

Thanks. What's next on the agenda with regard to sat>ip / digitaldevices support?

The next thing to do is channel scanning.  This is already partially implemented.  Your device does provide a channel list, MC can make use of that list to get the channels.

Please try run Setup.  After selecting "Sat>IP", select "Get channels from server provided list" from "Modulation System" drop list (instead of selecting "dvbs" or "dvbc" or "dvbt"). 

Please let me know how far you go on it.

For those of you who SAT>IP servers do not provide a channel list, channel scanning will not work.  I will have to figure out how we can get channels.

[tyler69]

Do I need to select both tuners or only one when selecting "Modulation system"?
What do I need to enter in "Hardware Profile name"?
Options are not available (see screenshot).

[tyler69]

Attached you'll find the scan window. "Preferred tuner" is empty.

[Yaobing]

Do I need to select both tuners or only one when selecting "Modulation system"?
What do I need to enter in "Hardware Profile name"?
Options are not available (see screenshot).

Select both tuners (this indicates that you want both tuners used for the type of channels).  For channel scanning, the first tuner in the list would be used for scanning if you are not getting channel list from the server.

Hardware profile name - you can accept the name suggested by MC.  You can create something for yourself too.  Example: "SATIP - server channel list".

[tyler69]

Thanks. I now run a channel scan on the OctopusNET itself. There was none, that might be the reason, MC doesn't get any channels, right?

[Yaobing]

Thanks. I now run a channel scan on the OctopusNET itself. There was none, that might be the reason, MC doesn't get any channels, right?

We try to get channels by parsing a channel list file output from the server "OctopusNET".  If the server has a list of channels, it should output the list in an M3U playlist type file.  You could try entering this in a browser and see what you get:

http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/channellist.lua?select=m3u

where nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is the IP address of the OctopusNET device.  You should be able find that address either from the OctopusNET software, or from a MC log.  If that URL does not give you any useful info, try this:

http://nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/octoserve/channellist.lua?select=m3u

[tyler69]

I get a channel list. It's on the OctopusNET after I ran a scan. But I don't know what I need to do in order for MC to fetch that.

[Yaobing]

Attached you'll find the scan window. "Preferred tuner" is empty.

Preferred tuner is irrelevant for channel scanning.  It is meaningful only when a single, already-created channel is selected.  The preferred tuner for a given channel will be loaded, if available, when that channel is being played or recorded.

The "Manage Channels" window, as in the screenshot, will list channels that have been found.  It is updated constantly until channel scanning is finished.  If the channel list remains empty, then channel scanning is not working.

[Yaobing]

I get a channel list. It's on the OctopusNET after I ran a scan. But I don't know what I need to do in order for MC to fetch that.

Did you try one of the URLs that I posted above in a browser?

[tyler69]

The first one is the same as I get when I fetch the channel list from the OctopusNET webinterface. The second one (/octoserve) does not work. It leads to a blank page.
BTW: the OctopusNET can also generate a JSON channellist.

[Yaobing]

The first one is the same as I get when I fetch the channel list from the OctopusNET webinterface. The second one (/octoserve) does not work. It leads to a blank page.
BTW: the OctopusNET can also generate a JSON channellist.

Thanks for the confirmation.  The m3u playlist should be sufficient for us.  I will figure out what to do to make it work.

[tyler69]

DigitalDevices released a client for Kodi, maybe this is of any help: https://github.com/DigitalDevices

[Yaobing]

Please download this update to be used with your current installation of MC22 build 81.

Note that this is not the DLL that I usually post.  It is an exe file, that goes into the same MC installation folder.  You should also use the latest DLL that I posted above.

Hopefully this fixes the problem with loading channels from the server.

[tyler69]

I don't see any changes in MC with the new exe (to my previous post).

[Yaobing]

I see in the log that you tried channel re-scan.  It probably did not work because you never succeeded in the original scan in the first place.  Did you try running television setup from scratch?

[tyler69]

yes I also tried that.

[Yaobing]

Let's try again.  Download this updated executable file (zipped).  Copy into MC22 installation folder.

[tyler69]

No changes, as far as I can see.

[Yaobing]

We failed to load the channel list m3u file from the server.

This URL, http://192.168.xxx.xxx/channellist.lua?select=m3u, failed to connect.  Are you able to make connection with this url in a browser?  If so, what is the result?  Please copy the result and post it.

[tyler69]

please find the result attached.

[Yaobing]

Thanks for the file.  It should be something that MC will understand.  The problem we had was that network connection failed when MC tried to download the file. 

I uploaded a new version in which we retry downloading when it failed.  Let's see how it works.

[tyler69]

No changes. Is there a specific workflow you want me to do or something in particular I should do/look for ? Usually I look into all the TV related channel settings and setup from scratch in order to see if something's changed when I get new data from you.

[Yaobing]

What you have done is correct.  I found another bug in my code.

Please try again with this updated file. 

[tyler69]

No changes.

[Yaobing]

This turns out to be a harder nut to crack 

The latest log shows that you did a re-scan.  MC went through steps getting the URL for the channel list m3u file, and tried to download the file, but was met with repeated failure.

Maybe it is a firewall issue?  Can you check your firewall settings and make sure you give MC22 full network permission in both directions?

Also, try running TV setup again.  My last fix was for running Setup starting from scratch.  So I would like to see whether my last fix had a positive effect.

Thanks.

[tyler69]

MC has a permission in windows firewall and the windows defender is set up according to "taming windows defender" in the wiki. I ran tv setup again, but to no avail. Is it normal that the tuners do not show up (e.g. in Manage channels->Preferred tuner)?

[Yaobing]

MC has a permission in windows firewall and the windows defender is set up according to "taming windows defender" in the wiki. I ran tv setup again, but to no avail. Is it normal that the tuners do not show up (e.g. in Manage channels->Preferred tuner)?

For SAT>IP devices (as well as CableCARD devices), it usually takes a short while for MC to discover the devices because MC has to dynamically listen for network broadcasts by the devices.  So, yes it is normal for the devices not to appear in device list.  For that reason, you need to wait for a while after each MC restart, to make sure that MC has found the devices before you try anything (TV setup, watching or recording a TV show, etc.)

[Yaobing]

On the other hand, if MC has not discovered your DigitalDevices tuners, I don't think it would let you finish the Setup procedure without raising an issue. 

Also the Preferred Tuner droplist in Manage Channels is populated according to which channel has been selected from the channels list on the left hand side.  So if your channels list is actually empty, and thus you would not have selected any channel, then the Preferred tuner list would be empty too.

The best place to see whether your SATIP tuners have already been loaded is TV Options > Manage Devices.

[tyler69]

Attached is a zipfile with screenshots that show where the tuners show up.

[Yaobing]

Attached is a zipfile with screenshots that show where the tuners show up.

This revealed another bug.  This is unrelated to the TV Setup though.  When TV Setup is finished properly, the tuners should be properly configured to "Sat>IP" type.   It is just the Configure dialog window was not updated to reflect it.  It did not include Sat>IP as a tuner category, and therefore showed only "Disabled" in the dropdown list.

This new DLL should fix that.

[tyler69]

I don't see any difference?! EDIT: i do, it now also says "sat>ip", next to "disabled".

[Yaobing]

I don't see any difference?! EDIT: i do, it now also says "sat>ip", next to "disabled".

Yes, that is the only thing.  You want to make sure "Sat>IP" is selected, not "Disabled", unless you really want to exclude a particular tuner (there are situations when people do need to do that).

[Yaobing]

When you have a chance, please download the updated exe file again.  I added more log entries.

After copying the file into MC folder, run MC, go to TV Options and click "Setup...".  On the "Cleanup old settings?" popup box, check "Reset all television settings" checkbox before clicking OK button.  Then follow through the wizard. 

[tyler69]

The only difference I had now is that a window popped up when setting up (see screenshot).

[Yaobing]

Thanks for the feedback.  The popup box was added yesterday.  I now see the entire process in the log.  Now it boils down to downloading the channel list file from the server.

Please try this updated exe file.

[tyler69]

No changes as far as I see it.

[Yaobing]

No changes as far as I see it.

Yeah, we still could not download the file.   

[tyler69]

FWIW, I tried it with an other computer. But with no luck. Attached is the log.