Topic: Aspect ratio (Read 4512 times)

Bjack · « **on:** December 07, 2011, 01:47:03 am »

hi

anyone know where to set the video "Aspect ratio" permanently ? I cant find it in MC options.

Matt · « **Reply #1 on:** December 07, 2011, 07:28:25 am »

Could you explain your goal? Normally each video has its own aspect ratio, so a global setting wouldn't make that much sense.

Thanks.

Bjack · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2011, 07:44:16 am »

hi Matt

I understand your idea, still I want to watch movies as 16:9 especially 4:3 movies. in fact this options was in MC in previous version.
but I have idea, maybe you can add: "show all 4:3 movies as 16:9 (etc.)"

thanks

Matt · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:27:38 am »

The options are still available, they're just not global (because they're more complicated than they used to be).

More here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Video_Playback_Aspect_Ratio

RGBlues · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:02:44 pm »

I have a similar issue with the aspect ratio. In MC17.38, I launch .avi and .mkv files and the aspect is 16:9 (perfect). In MC17.46 the aspect launches as 2:35. Can this be fixed since it worked before?

Matt · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2011, 09:56:44 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 07, 2011, 08:02:44 pm

I have a similar issue with the aspect ratio. In MC17.38, I launch .avi and .mkv files and the aspect is 16:9 (perfect). In MC17.46 the aspect launches as 2:35. Can this be fixed since it worked before?

What's in the width and height fields for the videos? Perhaps they are 2.35, since that's common for movies?

RGBlues · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2011, 12:42:21 pm »

Matt:

They are internet TV streams, not movies, typically 16:9. Also the FFDShow raw filter does not appear in the Direct Show filters menu now. Everything works perfectly in MC17.38.

Matt · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2011, 01:05:16 pm »

Could you provide a sample URL so we could test the same file here?

Thanks.

RGBlues · « **Reply #8 on:** December 08, 2011, 06:28:29 pm »

Here is an example:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JSSZLKNB&w=631&h=392

Matt · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2011, 10:02:52 am »

Thanks for the sample file. It plays with the correct aspect ratio using MC 17.0.50 using Red October Standard (Options > Video) on two machines here.

Could you show a screenshot of what you're seeing? What OS are you on?

RGBlues · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:48:28 pm »

I am on MC17.50 RO Standard, same problem. I can manually change the aspect to 16:9 but files do not launch in 16:9 automatically as they did on MC17.38. I am running Win7-64. How do I insert the image directly to this (I have the .jpg screenshot).

Alex B · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2011, 02:05:06 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 09, 2011, 01:48:28 pm

How do I insert the image directly to this (I have the .jpg screenshot).

Notable Threads: "How to add a screenshot or other image to a forum post"

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=59513.msg459903#msg459903

RGBlues · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2011, 02:42:57 pm »

Thanks Alex B for the info.

Matt: Here is what I see. http://pix01.com/yu%40k33i

Also the FFDShow filters no longer show on the right click menu. Have these filters been bypassed by MadVr?

Alex B · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:01:57 pm »

And when you "right-click > copy" the link to the full size image file, paste it to to your reply, and add the IMG codes you will have:

Code: [Select]

[img]http://www.pix01.com/gallery/466020A8-A755-4A0E-A68B-60DBEB42F8C1/Test_Image_-Aspect/933359469_orig0.jpg[/img]
... which shows up like this:

The screenshot is 1024 x 768. Is that the resolution your display device (TV?) uses. Is the device's physical aspect ratio 16:9?

I may have a bit similar problem with a 16:10 LCD TV that I use through the standard D-SUB connection. The TV supports only 1024x768 properly (other resolutions may partially work, but then the picture is soft, cropped or otherwise distorted). MC doesn't provide an option to define the exact resulting aspect ratio when the device uses non-square pixels.

BryanC · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:32:00 pm »

In the distant past I had a 16:9 HDTV with 1024x768 resolution. You are probably accustomed to seeing a stretched image due to rectangular pixels.

RGBlues · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:50:29 pm »

My is Samsung 1080p DLP with desktop set to 1024x768. The real issue here is that the aspect scales properly in MC17.38 but crops the image in MC17.50 so something in the program is different.

Alex B · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2011, 04:33:45 pm »

Is it this: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HL-S5087W-50-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000F2R5HO ?

According to the specs it would support native 1980x1080p through HDMI (and, I suppose, also through DVI > HDMI adapter if you have a DVI output connector on your computer).

When you are playing the above video, do you actually see this aspect ratio on the screen (i.e. wider than the original):

... or something else?

RGBlues · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2011, 05:54:32 pm »

Yes, that is the set except 61". I am running analog VGA. It works better for the desktop and it will scale to the proper resolution, i.e. 1980 for BluRay. The .avi videos are compressed around 575, (350mB streamed) I believe. They are not broadcast 720p.

"Do you actually see this aspect ratio on the screen (i.e. wider than the original),:" Yes but not in MC17.38 (all setting s the same).

So what did you guys to in the program that changed the aspect?

Matt · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2011, 06:48:39 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 09, 2011, 05:54:32 pm

Yes, that is the set except 61". I am running analog VGA. It works better for the desktop and it will scale to the proper resolution, i.e. 1980 for BluRay. The .avi videos are compressed around 575, (350mB streamed) I believe. They are not broadcast 720p.

"Do you actually see this aspect ratio on the screen (i.e. wider than the original),:" Yes but not in MC17.38 (all setting s the same).

So what did you guys to in the program that changed the aspect?

It sounds like you want to _not_ preserve the aspect ratio, to correct for your display.

Have you tried changing aspect ratios using right-clicking on the playing video > Window > Aspect Ratio? Does that work?

RGBlues · « **Reply #19 on:** December 09, 2011, 06:55:24 pm »

Yes, I can stretch it in the window/apect but I did not have to do this in MC17.38. So what has changed in the video configuration?

Matt · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2011, 07:05:39 pm »

The video aspect ratio system was recently upgraded. More here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Video_Playback_Aspect_Ratio

It sounds like you're looking for a global option like "Adjust aspect ratio to compensate for sending a 4:3 image to a 16:9 display".

Is this a common need? Is there any way to send square pixels to your display? That would make other things like Theater View look better too.

RGBlues · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2011, 11:10:06 am »

OK. I see that the option to stretch the picture has been deleted (video>advanced>aspect) in releases beyond MC17.38. This was useful function in my case. Now I must manually select stretch in the window mode for each video I play.

Matt · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2011, 04:08:18 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 10, 2011, 11:10:06 am

OK. I see that the option to stretch the picture has been deleted (video>advanced>aspect) in releases beyond MC17.38. This was useful function in my case. Now I must manually select stretch in the window mode for each video I play.

If you select 'Anamorphic' from the Aspect Ratio menu, does it give you what you're looking for?

I think your television is basically acting like an anamorphic lens when it stretches 4:3 to 16:9.

If this works for you, we could add an option in Options > Video so that playback would default to anamorphic aspect ratio mode.

RGBlues · « **Reply #23 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:07:39 pm »

No. Anamorphic changes the picture from 2:35 to 4.3. If I use stretch, the picture is 16:9. This is the same size on my set with cable TV (most broadcast HDTV shows are displayed as full screen 16:9). If the stretch selection would stick this solves the issue.

Matt · « **Reply #24 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:19:19 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 14, 2011, 02:07:39 pm

No. Anamorphic changes the picture from 2:35 to 4.3. If I use stretch, the picture is 16:9. This is the same size on my set with cable TV (most broadcast HDTV shows are displayed as full screen 16:9). If the stretch selection would stick this solves the issue.

Just to be sure, did you try the 'Anamorphic' setting? If I'm understanding your configuration correctly, it should look correct (and look similar to 'Stretch').

My understanding is you have:
16x9 video, played to a 4:3 window, with a display stretching that 4:3 output to 16:9

Thanks.

RGBlues · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2011, 04:11:52 pm »

Yes, 4:3 Anamorphic setting in MC17.50 BUT,
in MC16.181 selecting Anamorphic stretches the picture to 16:9 (weird).

"My understanding is you have:
16x9 video, played to a 4:3 window, with a display stretching that 4:3 output to 16:9"

In native aspect (MC default values, it is actually):

16x9 video, played to a 1:85 window, When I click stretch that 1:85 output changes 16:9.

***I mentioned 2:35 before but it is actually 1:85 (my bad).***

Matt · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2011, 04:22:17 pm »

Quote from: RGBlues on December 14, 2011, 04:11:52 pm

Yes, 4:3 Anamorphic setting in MC17.50 BUT,
in MC16.181 selecting Anamorphic stretches the picture to 16:9 (weird).

So I think a single option to always start in anamorphic mode would work for you (and be good for users with anamorphic projectors).

If you agree, we'll try to add this soon.

Matt · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:03:06 pm »

Coming in 17.0.54 and newer:
NEW: It's possible to specify a default aspect ratio mode in Options > Video > Advanced (useful if you have an anamorphic lens, etc.).

glynor · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:03:40 pm »

Quote from: Matt on December 14, 2011, 04:22:17 pm

So I think a single option to always start in anamorphic mode would work for you (and be good for users with anamorphic projectors).

If you agree, we'll try to add this soon.

I agree now.

I actually have a whacko-situation with the video wall at the office, which I wouldn't otherwise even mention, that this would probably solve.

I really hope to obliterate that machine soon and build an EyeFinity display instead.

glynor · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:03:52 pm »

Quote from: Matt on December 14, 2011, 05:03:06 pm

Coming in 17.0.54 and newer:
NEW: It's possible to specify a default aspect ratio mode in Options > Video > Advanced (useful if you have an anamorphic lens, etc.).

Ha ha ha.

Awesome.

RGBlues · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:57:23 pm »

Kewl! Thanks Matt for listening and your help!

Matt · « **Reply #31 on:** December 16, 2011, 11:01:17 am »

The option for aspect ratios is being changed a little to support a wider variety of aspect ratios.

The change is described here.

It should be available sometime next week.

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