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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2012, 08:01:09 pm »

That's great news, Jim.  I can't wait to try and it, and I really appreciate all the hard work you guys are putting into this.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2012, 02:54:08 pm »

^^^ Ditto!

I'm very excited to see this come to fruition.  

It being just a music box seems like a perfect start.  Get that solid and then add other features.

Happy to help as a beta tester.

Future feature... for some future version:

One thing that was mentioned earlier and I'll second is any syncing with the iTunes XML DB.  While I would rather not use iTunes for most things, I would like to have JRiver and iTunes coexist in a way that benefited both.  For instance, I use iTunes Match, if I get new songs I'd love for JRiver to be able to just get that song.  And if I update tags in JRiver, I'd love for those to be pushed into iTunes.

It doesn't have to happen automatically, I'd be happy if it were something that I performed once a week/month manually.

And again, it's a future feature.

Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labor.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2012, 03:09:09 pm »

Down to 547 errors when compiling
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2012, 04:07:18 pm »

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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2012, 09:09:51 am »

Down to 547 errors when compiling
Microsoft would call that a release candidate ;)
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2012, 05:19:05 pm »

Hello,

Very happy to learn this & anxious to get MC on Mac.
Will it support Direct Mode in OS X 10.7 & 10.8?

Thanks!
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2012, 05:27:08 am »

Wow!

Finally...

It is such great news to know that JR MC will finally be available for Mac users!

Only one year ago I was asking everywhere about a Mac version and it seemed that it would be a no go.... So I had to buy another player.... That I'm actually very happy with but never has that special interface like MC.

Should we expect at least similar features as the most acclaimed players for OSx?

Will it feature direct mode? ISO DSD support?

Any estimate on delivery date and price?
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2012, 03:52:46 am »

Very interesting!

I am all new to JRiver, but have it for trial, but decided to try Amarra on mac also. Right now i am wondering if anyone would know if there will be a chance, that rowmote can control JRiver on mac from ipad.
I am just trying to get an idea before i decide which way to go. Will be interesting to get a chance to compare sound quality JRiver vs. Amarra.
Will kernal streaming be on JRiver for mac?
All in all i am very new to all this, but am exited by the very high standard of sound quality from usb to spdif converting.

Thanks for any input
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2013, 10:06:22 am »

I am on the fence of getting the MC18. Since the Mac version is coming, I  wonder if I have to pay again for it once it's released?
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2013, 10:08:10 am »

I am on the fence of getting the MC18. Since the Mac version is coming, I  wonder if I have to pay again for it once it's released?
Yes.  It will be a different license.  We will offer a discount to current owners of MC18 for Windows.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2013, 06:18:08 pm »

We're down to about 20 errors when compiling.  It was around 2800 when we first tried compiling a couple months ago.  Next week, we should find out what happens when we try to link.  
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2013, 06:44:37 pm »

Let the core dumps begin!
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2013, 12:33:39 am »

We're down to about 20 errors when compiling.  It was around 2800 when we first tried compiling a couple months ago.  Next week, we should find out what happens when we try to link.  

I'm very excited about this, can't wait to try it!!

Yes.  It will be a different license.  We will offer a discount to current owners of MC18 for Windows.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2013, 01:18:36 am »

I am on the fence of getting the MC18. Since the Mac version is coming, I  wonder if I have to pay again for it once it's released?

It's likely going to be a while before the Mac version is the equivalent of the Windows version.  If you are a heavy user, MC18 is worth the upgrade.  The most recent Theater View changes alone make it worth while for me.

As to paying 'again' for the more limited Mac version, I think a lot of us Mac users will do that gladly to help fund the development effort.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2013, 12:04:18 pm »

We're down to about 20 errors when compiling.  It was around 2800 when we first tried compiling a couple months ago.  Next week, we should find out what happens when we try to link.  

Definitely getting to see the sausage being made :)

Looking forward to trying this. Maybe replace the Intel NUC with a Mac Mini :)
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Re: AW: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2013, 12:49:18 pm »

Sorry too  ask, but which time frame can we expect a public beta to be ready?
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2013, 01:01:21 pm »

It's too soon to say reliably.  We should show something about a month after we have it running at all here.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2013, 04:40:17 pm »

Hope you make an appearance at the Moscone Center here in S.F. for MacWorld at the end of this month. ;)
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2013, 04:27:56 pm »

The compile stage was at zero errors by yesterday morning, so we're working on the link stage.  It started at 200 errors.  It's now at 7 errors, thanks to our secret weapon, Adam Thompson.  He's John's son and on Christmas break from his freshman year at the University of Wisconsin.

That's the good news.  The bad news is that a lot of things were commented out in order to get rid of errors.  Some of those are going to have to be fixed before the program will do anything again.  But we're close to having something.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2013, 04:48:47 pm »

That's the good news.  The bad news is that a lot of things were commented out in order to get rid of errors.  Some of those are going to have to be fixed before the program will do anything again.  But we're close to having something.

Step 1 in Cross Platform Development:

#if 0
  This code used to work
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2013, 05:37:34 pm »

Zero errors in both compiling and linking now.  Just crashes to debug.

This is like watching Frankenstein twitch for the first time.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2013, 06:04:39 pm »

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This is like watching Frankenstein twitch for the first time.
It's ALMOST alive!
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2013, 08:29:37 pm »

Zero errors in both compiling and linking now.  Just crashes to debug.

This is like watching Frankenstein twitch for the first time.

 :o :o :o :o
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2013, 12:43:41 am »

Will there be similar library tools like MC on Windows, like renaming files/tags?

Also is there a preorder option available?   
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2013, 06:37:22 am »

Don't know yet, but thanks for the offer.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2013, 08:08:54 am »

Don't know yet, but thanks for the offer.

Pretty sure I mentioned this before, but...

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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2013, 05:40:24 pm »

The prospect of being able to move away from iTunes is very, very attractive - that despite having a both Amarra and Pure Vinyl/Music which all rely on iTunes. I'm keenly watching out for the release!

Good news indeed!
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2013, 01:06:38 pm »

It now runs for about a second:

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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #78 on: January 17, 2013, 08:13:10 am »

Well assuming that before it was 0 seconds, I would say thatīs a progress of 100% - right? ;)
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #79 on: January 17, 2013, 09:09:16 am »

It runs now, but doesn't yet do anything.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #80 on: January 17, 2013, 09:21:52 am »

It runs now, but doesn't yet do anything.

For me, I've never done anything with software development, the question is: is this something good? What is a program, that doesn't do anything? In which way can it be called "running"?

Anyway: after following this thread I guess it's one big step in development. So: Congrats from me ;) I'm excited about what will come up next here :)
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2013, 09:27:00 am »

Yes, it's a huge step.  It means that most of the internal architecture is working.  Enough works that it can start up and show the interface.  It doesn't import files yet and it doesn't play.

It's a little like a car that looks good but doesn't run.  I have one in my garage.



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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2013, 09:34:14 am »

Jim, seriously. If you have a car like that and it doesn't run, go fix it. You're retired, what more could you wish for?
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #83 on: January 17, 2013, 09:34:31 am »

It's a little like a car that looks good but doesn't run.

I thought you'd gotten that thing going again?

Oh, wait, I forgot...

"Never trust the British to build anything larger or more complicated than a hat if you want it to work properly."   ;) ;D
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #84 on: January 17, 2013, 09:38:45 am »

I've owned it about 20 years and driven it about 20 times.  I love it, but I don't trust it.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #85 on: January 17, 2013, 09:41:58 am »

I thought you'd gotten that thing going again?

Oh, wait, I forgot...

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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2013, 10:57:48 am »

I think if I had that beautiful Jaguar in my garage I would not be playing with integrating computers into my audio system, God what a beautiful car!
Hope this is an appropriate post being my first, I have been reading and researching the subject of digital audio playback. I have a quality hifi and I listen to my record collection more than my Cd's. I suspect some of that has to do with sound quality and some with what I am comfortable doing. My CD collection has grown over the years and is now difficult to manage, hence my desire to load them on to a hard drive that is easy to search and keep organized. However, I find mp3 sound quality to be grating for more than background music while doing other things, even the typical mp4 apple down loads leave a lot to be desired, at least played back via my ipod.  So, I have an older Mac Mini (Intel Core Duo 2 GHZ; 2GB RAM) and want to set it up as a server, I have been reading the posts throughout this site and I am wondering if there is a document, book, or reference somewhere that any of members may be aware of that an uninitiated, person new to computerized audio could get to help plan out the requirements and steps in putting this system together. I am interested in more than just hardware but suggestions on DAC's and and integration would be helpful as well as file formats and storage issues and backup. I am new to this and want to learn what I'm doing before making too many mistakes.

I understand that J River Media Center for Mac is coming but not here yet, should I use iTunes to get things into the computer or wait, suggestions along those lines certainly welcome.

Thank you,
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2013, 02:14:32 am »

I am most interested in JRiver MC on OSx.  I have switched from the PC to Macs back in 2007.  I want to set up a MediaCenter computer and plan on using the Mac-Mini.   So I am very interested in the Mac OS version.

I have a very good friend that has an ultimate setup and he swears by the PC version.  I've sat and watched him use this software many times and envy his ease of use.  I am hopeful to see my patience pay off as you make this available on the MAC.

I can be a beta tester too so add me to the list.  I have 2 MB Pros (for kids in college),1 MB Pro-Retina (me), 1 MB Air (wife), 1 iMac (family), and Apple TV.  We also have 4 iPhones and 2 iPads.  So yes I should have voting rights on Apple stocks but I don't.  

Anyway,  I mostly have audio files right now but will start ripping all my movies very soon.  So I can test the audio files portion right away.  I really don't want to download Plex or XBMC if I don't have to.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2013, 03:58:50 am »

I am also interested in JR for mac. I am currently using pure music with mac mini. Yesterday I installed JRiver on my pc for the first time. I have pc connected to 5.1 system and mac mini to high end stereo system. Although my pc is connected to lesser audio system jriver sounded very nice while playing ripped flac files. I am really waiting to test JRiver on my stereo system.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2013, 10:40:58 am »

Any chance that JRiver will build an audio only version of MC for Windows when the Mac port is complete? I bet this has been asked before...
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2013, 01:19:09 pm »

Any chance that JRiver will build an audio only version of MC for Windows when the Mac port is complete? I bet this has been asked before...
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2013, 04:11:15 pm »

I'm very excited to see the progress...
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2013, 05:39:34 pm »

Ditto.  Just joined the forum.  Have Mac, iTunes, AirportExpress, toslink.  Want JRiver on mac mini and USB direct to my DAC2.  Willing to beta test.
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« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2013, 07:13:57 pm »

I will change the operating system  :D :D :D :D :D :D heheheh

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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2013, 08:21:41 pm »

I will change the operating system  :D :D :D :D :D :D heheheh

What operating system?  Change it to what?
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2013, 09:30:53 am »

Hey all.  Glad to see the enthusiasm in this thread for the upcoming Mac version of Media Center.  We at JRiver are working hard to reach the point where we can put out a first pre-Alpha release that is relatively stable and useful for some of the core Media Center functions (e.g. import, view, and play audio files with fully functional DSP, look and feel like MC on Windows).  

Currently, we're at the point where Media Center runs on Mac, plays a song or two, and many parts of the UI "sort of" work but there are many holes to fill before it's ready for public testing.  

Feel free to comment on just how stable you think the pre-Alpha needs to be in order to be useful for public testing, without causing too much frustration.  I guess the answer to that question determines whether we're a few weeks away or a few months away.

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« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2013, 10:20:57 am »

If you're reasonably sure it won't erase my hard drive* or kill my dog, I'm game.

* Any files I use on it would be copies from my main Library, so I really mean erase.  It isn't a big deal if it corrupts a file or twelve.
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« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2013, 11:26:40 am »

Here's our plan.  Please comment if you have a way to improve it.

1.  The license for the Mac OSX version will be separate from the Windows version.

2.  Initial releases will have a 30 day timeout.  There will probably be several of these.

3.  The final price will probably be the same as the Windows version.

4.  The Early Bird price will be $25, with no refunds offered, so don't buy it unless you're sure.

5.  It probably won't be dependable for daily use for the first 3 months.
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Re: Mac OSX Progress Report
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2013, 11:41:10 am »

2 Questions Jim,

Is the initial release the pre-alpha release JohnT speaks of?

Is the 30 day timeout version only going to be available to The Early Birds (ie, paid customers only)?
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« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2013, 11:45:42 am »

Actually I have 3 questions  8)

Do you have a list in mind for the features you plan to make available in the initial release *before* the upgrade to the next version becomes available? In other words which features can we reasonably count on before we upgrade? I mean high level, we heard about audio and DSP features, will video follow soon? Will there be a theater view? Skins?

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