Topic: User interface performance (Read 4951 times)

Edax · « **on:** January 18, 2015, 05:52:59 am »

Scrolling through the album view is very slow on all my Macs, imho unacceptably slow and very far from fluid. This in contrast to JRemote and the Windows version, both work fluidly. Is there anything that can be done to improve scrolling speed??

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2015, 07:45:33 am »

It shouldn't be slow. How are you controlling it? Mouse, keyboard, etc?

Building thumbnails will slow it down until it's completed.

Make sure you have the latest build from the top of this board.

Edax · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2015, 11:36:39 am »

Building thumbnails seems to be finished already a long time ago...

I use gesture scrolling with the Magic Mouse. Only with an unrealistically small window scrolling is fast and looks like momentum scrolling. With bigger windows everything slows down, sometimes the momentum scrolling takes a few seconds to finish, disabling any user interaction.
Also, resizing the main application window is really slow. Sometimes it takes a few seconds with nothing happening before resizing.

chriswimlett · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2015, 11:48:58 am »

Sounds like something is wrong - scrolling in album view and window resizing is fine on my MacBook Pro. I'm running Yosemite and using a Magic Trackpad.

Chris

Edax · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2015, 02:33:55 pm »

With a magic trackpad scrolling behaves somewhat better. If there would be something wrong, it would be with three Macs.

Edax · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2015, 10:11:25 am »

Compare the UI performance of MC to the performance of Audirvana 2.0 with a same file collection; the (lazy loading) UI of Audirvana never stutters or locks and has the same fluid feel as JRemote on iPad. MC pales in comparison on all my three Macs, especially with larger windows.

JimH · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2015, 10:13:25 am »

What version are you using?

Edax · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2015, 11:27:54 am »

I checked the current 20.0.40 download and 20.0.57 as found on the top of this forum. not really a difference.

JohnT · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2015, 08:20:19 am »

Have you added any custom columns with complex expressions?

Edax · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2015, 11:54:40 am »

No.

After installing I only removed some features like video support and limited the library search to music files.

Dr Tone · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2015, 01:02:53 pm »

If you enable Retina Mode, scrolling stutters and is far from fluent. It's been that way right from v19 through to the current build of v20.

There is no comparison between the windows version and the mac version for smooth scrolling.

It's just the way it is.

JimH · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2015, 01:22:04 pm »

Quote from: Dr Tone on January 20, 2015, 01:02:53 pm

If you enable Retina Mode, scrolling stutters and is far from fluent. It's been that way right from v19 through to the current build of v20.

That might indicate a problem with the power of the graphics hardware.

Edax · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:07:59 pm »

No I did not enable retina mode. Tried it briefly and things got even worse.

B.t.w. The graphics hardware is fully capable of excellent scrolling performance in Audirvana...

Dr Tone · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:14:58 pm »

Quote from: JimH on January 20, 2015, 01:22:04 pm

That might indicate a problem with the power of the graphics hardware.

The latest 15" Macbook Pro absolutely loaded with 1TB SSD, 16GB Ram, integrated and discrete graphics. Happens on both graphics cards.

6233638 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2015, 08:48:08 pm »

Can confirm that it's extremely slow on the Retina MacBook Pro here, whether in retina mode or not.

jimm2 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2015, 12:37:00 pm »

Quote from: 6233638 on January 20, 2015, 08:48:08 pm

Can confirm that it's extremely slow on the Retina MacBook Pro here, whether in retina mode or not.

Same issue for me with Retina Macbook Pro. It's been this way since I bought version 19.

Duspin · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:02:15 pm »

1) Anyone lose their ability to control volume from the keyboard? I have to use the slider found on the Sound page in System Preferences to raise and lower volume.
2) DSD and DSF files will play when I'm at the office, but won't when I'm at home where I get an error message.

Anyone have similar experience?

jimwc · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2015, 11:23:21 pm »

I also have a similar scrolling problem on my non-retina Macbook Pro.

For me, a more accurate problem statement is that scrolling is smooth while my fingers are still in contact with the trackpad (even if I scroll VERY quickly). However, as soon as I let go and "momentum" scrolling takes over for the next 1-2 seconds, the scrolling movement is jerky and not smooth.

I observed exactly the same performance with 20.0.52 and 20.0.60 (OSX 10.9.5)

JimH · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2015, 06:36:31 am »

Quote from: cistjam on January 22, 2015, 11:23:21 pm

I also have a similar scrolling problem on my non-retina Macbook Pro.

For me, a more accurate problem statement is that scrolling is smooth while my fingers are still in contact with the trackpad (even if I scroll VERY quickly). However, as soon as I let go and "momentum" scrolling takes over for the next 1-2 seconds, the scrolling movement is jerky and not smooth.

I observed exactly the same performance with 20.0.52 and 20.0.60 (OSX 10.9.5)

That helps. Thanks.

Dr Tone · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:15:15 pm »

Quote from: cistjam on January 22, 2015, 11:23:21 pm

I also have a similar scrolling problem on my non-retina Macbook Pro.

For me, a more accurate problem statement is that scrolling is smooth while my fingers are still in contact with the trackpad (even if I scroll VERY quickly). However, as soon as I let go and "momentum" scrolling takes over for the next 1-2 seconds, the scrolling movement is jerky and not smooth.

I observed exactly the same performance with 20.0.52 and 20.0.60 (OSX 10.9.5)

Yes, that describes it with retina as well. But the performance when my fingers are down isn't as good as windows either. The inertia scrolling after removing fingers is worst.

Awesome Donkey · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:35:25 pm »

Yep, that does indeed describe it perfectly.

6233638 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2015, 11:00:43 am »

So I know that it's a much slower system than the Retina machine that I was testing on before, but scrolling performance is almost comically bad on this old MacBook (10.6.8) that I've been testing MC out on the last few days.
While inertia scrolling seems to be causing problems when using a trackpad on newer systems, I'm using a mouse with this system and it seems like MC is not interpreting the scroll commands correctly.

Scrolling seems to either move at a very slow speed: maybe 10px/step, very fast: about 200px/step (1 line) or ludicrous speed which is skipping about 200-300 lines (40,000-60,000px) from a half-rotation of the mouse wheel (finger at the top of the wheel to the bottom, no free-scrolling) with no in-between speeds.

It's not the mouse, or the system, because other applications behave as expected.
The system does have the mouse scrolling speed set to the maximum, but it does not behave like that anywhere else.

If I set it to the minimum scrolling speed it scrolls about 10 lines rather than 200-300 at the maximum speed, but performance is still very poor and I don't really feel in control of where it's actually going to stop because MC's UI lags far behind the input.
And while reducing the scroll speed like this helps in MC, it's now too slow to use anywhere else.

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