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CountryBumkin

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I have a couple of TV recordings that where automatically made without my knowledge. I assume one of my "recording rules" triggered it but I can't find anything in the recording's "name or description" that matches anything in my recording rules.

Is there a way to see "what event/rule" triggered the recording? Maybe in the logs?

In the latest example, the TV recording made was the movie "Donovan's Reef" (with John Wayne). It recorded on 1/6 at 3:20 pm.

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Yaobing

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Right now there is no direct way to that.

There is a Recording Rule ID that is saved in each recording, but is not available for users to view since it is marked as "for TV channels only", not for Video Media Type.  I just made a change, so that the field will be available for video type too.  So in a future build, you will be able to figure that out, but still not so directly though.  You have to open tvrecording.xml file in your database folder to search for the Recording Rule.
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CountryBumkin

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No problem. Thanks.

I think my recording rules may had "name contains XYZ" in the parameters rather than "name Is XYZ", so a couple of recordings were made that I was not expecting. I went through all my recording rules and made sure everything is set to "is". If it happens again I'll look into it more deeply.
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CountryBumkin

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I see where the problem is now.

In one case I used "Contains "NOVA"" which then returns any results which contains those letters N, O, V, and A even if the letters are within a word.

Is this what was intended?

Example:


Results:


Notice how the word "innovations" contains letters "nova".  This also explains the recording "Donovan's Reef".

I think the search engine would be better if the search required User to input a wildcard "*" for any number of letters and "?" for a single letter.

For example, "*nova*" to get "innovations" returned as a positive search result. And using "Nova*" would return results like "novation" but not "innovation". etc.
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Re: recording rules not working as expected when "Contains" is used?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 06:23:37 pm »

I've had a look at the change put in for this, and made some comments over here: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=102551.msg711445#msg711445

I would now like to be able to see the "Recording Rule ID" in the Guide data, before a recording is made. That way I could use my custom view of the guide data to easily identify which programs are going to be recorded, and which rules the recording is based on. That will help in refining my rules, where they either miss programs, or plan to record something unexpectedly, and fix the problem before the recording actually happens.

It would be very nice if this was all wrapped up together by making the "Recording Rule ID" visible in the "To Be Recorded" and "Recording Rules" lists, rather than looking up the tvrecording.xml file in my database folder. Perhaps optionally, although may be difficult since those lists aren't fully customisable.

Thanks for considering this Yaobing.
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Re: recording rules not working as expected when "Contains" is used?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 07:39:33 pm »

It would be very nice if this was all wrapped up together by making the "Recording Rule ID" visible in the "To Be Recorded" and "Recording Rules" lists, rather than looking up the tvrecording.xml file in my database folder. Perhaps optionally, although may be difficult since those lists aren't fully customisable.
I second that request.
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Re: recording rules not working as expected when "Contains" is used?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 09:37:24 am »

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Re: recording rules not working as expected when "Contains" is used?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 09:56:30 am »

I third it.
I suspect that your support for the idea bodes well for it actually happening. :D

Oh and while you're at it, is it also possible to add a field that will displays the recording rule name so we can display the name instead of the id?  Especially when used in Theater View, that would be more user friendly.  Thanks!
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