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Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« on: August 19, 2003, 12:57:15 pm »

Please read VERY carefully. This is a BETA version of 9.1.  If you expect things to work, please download the latest 9.0 build from this thread:    
   
http://www.musicex.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=MediaCenter;action=di splay;num=1054751628
   
but if you're patient and willing to help us work out some of the bugs, you can download 9.1 here:      
   
ftp://ftp.jriver.com/pub/downloads/music/MediaCenter91235.exe    
     
(backup your library before installing)  
 
Please report any 9.1 problems in this thread.  Keep a list of problems and if they aren't fixed in the next build, please post the list again.  
 
History:  
1. Changed: Added a way to tell MC which shortcut to use from the Resource.xml file if there were multiple shortcuts for the same action.
2. Changed: File properties list label / value splitter won't show less than a certain percentage 'value'.
3. Changed: File properties now shows tooltip for truncated labels / values.
4. Fixed: List controls could bounce back when doing a quick click then scroll.
5. Fixed: MC could leak memory on exit.
6. Fixed: Smartlist wizard list could sometimes have a horizontal scrollbar when it shouldn't have.
7. Fixed: Listbox scrollbars could flicker during scrolling on XP.
8. Fixed: List rating stars wouldn't always unhighlight when the mouse left the list.
9. Fixed: Properties window would show unrelated files when switching to a non-file based view. (TV, Start, etc.)
10. Changed: MC behaves more predictably when both optimize volume and set volume on startup are turned on.
11. Fixed: Action Window auto-sizing would sometimes show a scrollbar when it wasn't necessary.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2003, 01:25:01 pm »

If this build does what I think then you are a diamond amongst men...Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou!!!!

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2003, 01:31:00 pm »

What do:

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1. Changed: Added a way to tell MC which shortcut to use from the Resource.xml file if there were multiple shortcuts for the same action.
2. Changed: File properties list label / value splitter won't show less than a certain percentage 'value'.


mean?
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2003, 01:34:46 pm »

Great fixes.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2003, 01:36:42 pm »

When connecting my Archos Jukebox and navigating to the root of it, it gives an error "An Invalid Argument Was Encountered"

I also cannot drag & drop to the root or via the action pane
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2003, 01:42:17 pm »

Tuesday, August 19, 2003   3:29 PM

BUG:  Properties - Standard Windows right click selections unavailable when right clicking on highlighted text in Properties Window.

BUG:  Playing Now - When right-clicking and selecting Play (from tree, panes, tracks), the Playing Now window does not update until the mouse is clicked somewhere else in MC.

ANNOYANCE:  Action Window keeps changing, based on "something", I'd like to have a lock option, so I get to choose what is displayed.

ANNOYANCE:  Properties is more difficult to get to with the Action Window.  There should be a direct way to access Properties.  (or implement a lock on the Action Window display, and I'll lock it to Properties).
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2003, 01:49:16 pm »

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1. Changed: Added a way to tell MC which shortcut to use from the Resource.xml file if there were multiple shortcuts for the same action.


Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V show as the copy / paste shortcuts instead of Ctrl+Insert / Shift+Insert in menus. (you couldn't specify this before)

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2. Changed: File properties list label / value splitter won't show less than a certain percentage 'value'.


The label "Date (filename friendly)" would make it so there was no room for the value.  This no longer happens.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2003, 02:17:35 pm »

Bad news and good news I'm afraid... the options scroll bug is fixed :) but the rules dialog one is not...still getting extraneous horizontal bars :(

Another little thing I noticed because I had files in use MC had to restart windows during the install.  When windows restarted the box said Media Jukebox Installer not Media Center...

Please can there be some way to lock the action window to a minimum size so that it doesn't get reduced down really tiny.  When I saw this:
File properties list label / value splitter won't show less than a certain percentage 'value'.
I thought this was what had been implemented...

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2003, 02:20:46 pm »

1) Dragging the scroll bar in the options menu changes the appearance of the scroll bar from MC skin style to the default windows style and back, making scrolling very jerky. Thanks!

2) Auto Playlist /Recently Imported 100 does not dislplay the selected number of files.
   
3)When using ASIO for streaming web content, switching stations causes stuttering and occasionally crashes.  
     
4) MC downloads *.rm files instead of streaming them    
This is an old bug.  
     
5) I also liked selective text for tool bar buttons.    
 
6)Ease of Use Suggestion: Pictures of buttons should be in menues to the lefte of the corresponding action.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2003, 02:25:16 pm »

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/06/27  Priority: High
    HTTP Streaming Not Working For Many Stations
    Most MP3-based radio stations will not stream properly and sound corrupted.  An example of a bad stream: http://www.musicex.com/mediajukebox/MPL/4509.mpl.  This stream will play in Winamp.  A WMA stream from the station works fine.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/06/27  Priority: High
    MC9 Not Playing RA Streams
    Clicking on a .RAM link causes it to be played with RealOne Player rather than MC9 regardless of current file association settings.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/31  Priority: Medium
    TV Settings Not Saving
    TV Options/Display/Video settings aren't saving between sessions.  All of the options reset to 0 each time.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/25  Priority: Medium
    Focus Issues
    Clicking out of the MC window then clicking in the white space of a pane causes it to reset to <all> without showing it as selected.  Seems like it should just regain focus for the MC window alone with no resets.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/24  Priority: Medium
    Favorites Not Accurate
    A favorite pointing to a specific folder or drive takes you to the My Computer root rather than the location specified.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/18  Priority: Medium
    Auto Smartlists Not Retaining Sort Order
    Changing the sorting, followed by right-clicking on the header and choosing to 'Save Current View' doesn't cause the sort choice to persist.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/31  Priority: Low
    Cursor Inconsistency
    Put the cursor as if you're going to resize the window from the bottom edge but don't resize.  Move the cursor up to the top of the status bar.  The cursor stays in the "size vertical" mode even though you can no longer click to resize.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/31  Priority: Low
    No "to All" Buttons
    Was moving some files that overwrote some other files and MC asks for confirmation on each.  There needs to be "Yes to All" and "No to All" buttons.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/18  Priority: Low
    Library Backup Filename
    Currently, the date in the backup filename is formatted in such a way that causes the dates to be out-of-order if viewed alphabetically (my recommendation is yyyy-mm-dd with leading zeroes).

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/18  Priority: Low
    Keyboard Shortcuts Unavailable in Web Media
    You cannot tab between fields or hit CTRL-V when adding a station.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/09  Priority: Low
    ASIO fades too early
    Using ASIO mode with fast fades and playing a single track, the track will actually fade out and end a few seconds early.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/02  Priority: Low
    Characters Missing in Context Menu
    Playlists with an ampersand are not displaying the ampersand in right-click context menu (e.g. adding a track to a playlist).  Other characters might also not be displaying properly.

    • Fixed - Date Opened: 2003/08/01  Priority: Low
      Slider Button Off-center
      The position slider button is a little too low on the default PixOS skin.

    • Fixed - Date Opened: 2003/07/15  Priority: Low
      Rating Stars Keep Focus
      Hovering above rating stars then moving to another pane leaves the stars still in hover mode (e.g., a few stars being red).[/s]



      Suggestions/Requests
    • Create a virtual playlist from a cue file with track and artist names.
    • Make MC's My Computer more Explorer like by allowing files AND folders to be displayed in the main window.  It would make moving folders around so much easier.
    • Option to Suppress external encoder DOS window (e.g. LAME.EXE).
    • Rip to a single WAV with a CUE file.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2003, 03:44:21 pm »

action window toolbar icons when pressed doesn't make the hover effect at once (a pause about 1 second) unless you try these:
  • clicking the icons from the latest pixel in the bottom
  • clicking the icons and holding the mouse click and drag the mouse to the bottom.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2003, 04:03:23 pm »

Bugs:
1. Right-click and adding new columns to a view (like Playing Now) does NOT add the new column where you right-clicked in the heading...MC is adding the new column as the 1st column always.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2003, 05:18:03 pm »

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    There's no way to fix the size of the action window.

  • New - Date Opened: 2003/08/19  Priority: High
    After an import of images, the tree resets to the Media Library with EVERYTHING selected in the details pane.   Why does the tree have to change at all?



  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/23  Priority: High
    MC isn't remembering the Display Mode (Internal, Windowed, Full Screen)

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/23  Priority: High
    In thumbnail mode, the up and down arrow keys always reset the selection to the first image in the row instead of moving to the image directly above or below the current one.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/22  Priority: High
    When the details window is In thumbnail mode and you scroll down with the mouse wheel shortly after the list starts filling, the list often resets back to the top

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/20  Priority: High
    The Page Down key doesn't work in thubmnail mode if less than 2 full rows of images are shown

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/20  Priority: High
    The right arrow key won't move beyond the second column of thumbnails.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/30  Priority: Medium
    If there aren't enough properties to fill the properties pane, clicking on the blank space below the last property starts an edit on the last property.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/30  Priority: Medium
    In playing now, if the currently playing track advances beyond the currently selected track and you press the down arrow key, the selection jumps to the track after the one playing instead of the one that was selected.  Same for the Up key, selection jumps to the track above the one currently playing instead of the one currently selected. Example:  Load tracks into playing now, select the first track and start it playing.  Now press Next a few times to start track 4 playing (track 1 is still selected).  Now press the down arrow key.  The selection jumps to track 5 instead of track 2.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/28  Priority: Medium
    The field names in Properties don't reflect the correct names if they were renamed.  I.E.  I renamed Artist to Track Artist.  The column headers show Track Artist but the properties show Artist.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/23  Priority: Medium
    In thumbnail mode, MC often doesn't display images for currently visible items in large lists until it either churns through all of the items in the list or until you click on any item in the list.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/22  Priority: Medium
    If an empty directory is removed because of a rename operation or because all of the entries were deleted, it's entry remains in the Hard Disk Location tree and if you click on it, it brings up the search panes as though you clicked on the root of the view scheme

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/20  Priority: Medium
    When the mouse hovers over the action window and the menu bar un-hides, it causes the cover art or image preview to resize which is annoying.  It should just cover what's behind it as the upper playing now window does.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/20  Priority: Medium
    The 'Update Library Remove Files which do not exist' doesn&#8217;t seem to remove any entries.  After I perform the update I still have entries for images which do not exist (they have the red X for an icon)

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/07/20  Priority: Medium
    The '<this folder>' entry in the tree version of the Hard Disk Location view scheme doesn't show anything.

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/06/23  Priority: Medium
    Can't import m3/mpl playlists.  The import dialog box comes reports 1 files scanned but 0 imported.  They play fine.  

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/06/18  Priority: Medium
    If you do a 'Make all views like current' views that aren't even in the current library are reset.  OK, I know it does say 'all' but even views that aren't even in the current tree?

  • Open - Date Opened: 2003/06/18  Priority: Low
    View schemes based on location don't work via Media Server.

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2003, 05:23:11 pm »

I'm not sure if this is specific to the very latest revision, but it's new to one of the recent ones.  I've started noticing some problems when editing Audible (.aa) tags.  MC gets stuck on the "Updating File Properties" screen and I have to close the program and re-open it to get it to function again.  The changes were indeed saved but I'm forced to close and open the program.

A "possible" pattern (I'm not entirely sure about this) is that it seems like this was only happening when I edited in the Action Window -- i.e. when I edited in the song window I "may" not have had this problem.  As I said, I'm not sure about this since I didn't keep playing with it, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2003, 06:01:05 pm »

While watching TV, clicking STOP causes MC to shut-down, no error message just *POOF*
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2003, 06:28:09 pm »

Sorry Im a couple days behind.. hadn't been downloading daily builds ..but this came out in the last build ..
Changed: List tooltips now show filename.
I have files in a d:\MP3\Source\Artist\Album\Filename.mp3

This gets to be about 3/4th the width of my screen at high res
Anyway to customize what is displayed (sorta like what you did for the top bar Customize Display) ?

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2003, 06:32:15 pm »

When converting a file, it removes the old file from the library.

It used to keep the old one...

Can this be fixed?
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2003, 06:44:37 pm »

Long entries in the comments field [eg text from AMG album reviews]are not displayed properly in the action window/detailed file info tool tip.

Can only see last couple of words in field and it's all on the left edge of the screen.  It's as if the tool tip box changes to Right Align if the field is lengthy.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2003, 07:01:06 pm »

Just noticed that the tool tip problem - where it is only partly shown and the rest is hidden off the left of the monitor - doesn't just apply to long comments fields in file info.

It also happens sometimes on the tooltip which appears when pointing to a file in the main library window pain.

Repositioning the mouse further right on the screen usually fixes it.

Also, in the main library pane, when I select multiple files, point my mouse at a field, press F2 to edit it, the cursur often ends up at the wrong field.  
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2003, 09:21:39 pm »

The File Properties page of the Action Window still doesn't display ANY information when a file on the iPod is highlighted.

Also, like others have reported on this forum, I am getting "sloppy" starts when playing various tracks.  In other words, if I pause and switch to a new spot on a track, I'll hear a little piece from the previous position.  Selecting "smooth starts" in the Playback options alleviates this with mp3's, but not with Audible files.

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2003, 10:17:42 pm »

A couple:-

1. Ripping multiple CD tracks - the CD ripping dialogue crashes to the taskbar after ripping each track. Restoring it each time makes no difference.

2. On a completely fresh install, choosing a different encoder to the default Windows Media from Tools/Options that requires a download from the MC site - in my case the MP3 plug-in - causes MC to crash completely immediatley after installing the plug-in if a music track is playing at the same time.

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2003, 11:53:47 pm »

Small request :)

Could the tree not auto close each time we open up MC?
Could it stay opened or how it was before we closed it?


It'd just be a nice little tweak :)

Thanks!

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2003, 01:01:22 am »

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Could the tree not auto close each time we open up MC?
Could it stay opened or how it was before we closed it?


I believe it already does this.  On the "Startup settings" options, under "Startup Page," select "Last Location."

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2003, 01:24:28 am »

It would really help to be able to manually set and lock the size ot the Tree and Action windows.  The way it is now, the tree takes precedence and forces you to scroll the Action window if the AW is set to display enough info.  I'm forced to constantly scroll the Action Window in order to see certain information.

I'd much rather have the ability to have the FULL Action Window visible by manually shrinking the tree to a small size.  Since the tree is used less now (due to the panes) it would seem logical to be able to give it minimal size if desired.

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2003, 03:27:30 am »

using plugins like lyrics finder and coverart finder with a large number of files makes the action window resets

and i have some kind of comment on action window:
the icons inside it like handled and playlist..etc. need to be a high resolution icons.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2003, 04:02:56 am »

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using plugins like lyrics finder and coverart finder with a large number of files makes the action window resets

and i have some kind of comment on action window:
the icons inside it like handled and playlist..etc. need to be a high resolution icons.

Some of the graphics are placeholders at this point.  They will be replaced before release.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2003, 05:23:48 am »

I got that Visual C++ runtime error last night while running this build. It's the first time I've ever seen it. Was it ever established what causes this?
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2003, 06:37:09 am »

Doing a Search when using the 'My Computer' with a list of files doesn't work.

Keeps 'gathering information and updating' which is taking the focus off the search bar and making it really hard to do searches.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2003, 06:45:24 am »

drag and drop into the actual visible 'playing now' area doesn't seem to work - only into the bottom bit?

Is this deliberate? If so why?
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2003, 08:57:47 am »

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    ASIO Chokes on 96kbps MP3
    MC is failing to play MP3s encoded at 96kbps when ASIO is enabled.  Switching to DirectSound or WaveOut corrects this issue.  It fails regardless of DSP Studio settings.[/s]

    Scratch that.  I figured out what was going on.
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2003, 09:35:55 am »

Read Only Fields - this is a VERY confusing thing. lol.

I just spent 10 minutes going through all the different property groups looking for 'width and height' and trying 'all properties' and sitting there getting very frustrated wondering why it wasn't showing these two fields.

Was on my way here to post a bug and suddenly remembered them.

I DEFINITELY think this should be set to show read only fields as default - it took me 10 m ins to work it out and thats after 3 years of use :)
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2003, 10:12:14 am »

Oh, forgot to mention as it does not occur often:

When doing task which heavily load the CPU i.e.: analyzing files, renaming/modifying large groups of files, converting formats, etc . . .  the 'working' or status window (?) de-skins to windows defaut shadowed by the skinned window until the processor load allows for reskinning.
Hope I explained that ok.  
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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2003, 10:34:21 am »

Thanks for this build ! :)

But (or bug !), I cannot open the window "Properties" !  :-/

Why have you remove the previous way and the previous window "Properties" of all file's properties ?  :-[

But (or bug !), right-click upon "Files Info" (who i minimezed on the down toolbar) crashes MC91235 !  >:( :( :-[ :-/

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Re: Media Center 9.1.235 beta available
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2003, 11:46:13 am »

Pretty annoying issue, for I try it now with each, lets say 5th build and am punished really bad each time I do it (Do I like it?). Here is the issue:

REMOTE CONTROL
I don't know exactly when but I was attracted by it since the remote control config. moved from Plugins to the Options Area. Since then (by the way, there is only one type of remote availble so far, were are others), each time I try to start the IRMAN (although I don't have it, I have a SB Extigy with RC, but I'm so desperate as it is the only one available)  plug-in MC gets completly mad. This in that manner, that the MC task has to be killed by XP Task Manager. Afterward MC is not startable any more. Even worse, a reinstall does not work, I first have to completly uninstall MC (loosing all settings), then a new installation is possible. I don't think its the way it should be. Thanks in advance. I feel RC very important for the ease of use of MC and like to see broader support anyhow.
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