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Oliverlim

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Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« on: December 19, 2015, 10:17:50 pm »

I use and intend to keep using my chord mojo as my Dac. I use mc21 as the volume control and have my mojo at line output to make use of mc21
Loudness / volume leveling feature.  However I miss having a physical volume control. Esp as my mc21 is running on a headless system and I have to remote into the system to skip/ and control volume.  Is there any physical box that will control jriver volume, provide skip, stop/., pause buttons as well? I guess one way is the have a cheap iPhone/iPod running jremote on a always on mode. Any other suggestion? 
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 01:14:58 am »

I use a combination of JRemote/Eos on my phone/tablet and cheap infra red windows media centre remote controls as the Intel NUCs use as headless players have built in IR receivers.

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 12:56:23 pm »

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 01:37:10 pm »

I haven't ever tried one, but what about one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-NA16029-Multimedia-Controller/dp/B003VWU2WA

It's a USB volume knob + some other features.
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jjazdk

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 08:00:21 am »

I have used the Griffin PowerMate for a lot of different software, though not yet with JRiver.

The PowerMate is an awesome little device and would be my first go-to product, if I wanted a physical volumen knob for JRiver!

It comes highly recommended.

I haven't ever tried one, but what about one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-NA16029-Multimedia-Controller/dp/B003VWU2WA

It's a USB volume knob + some other features.
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 09:15:19 pm »

I haven't ever tried one, but what about one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-NA16029-Multimedia-Controller/dp/B003VWU2WA

It's a USB volume knob + some other features.

Thanks all for the recommendation. I will look at the griffin and the Intel IR option.  Although as I want a proper volume knob, I think the Griffin fits the bill
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 09:26:49 pm »

I have used the Griffin PowerMate for a lot of different software, though not yet with JRiver.

The PowerMate is an awesome little device and would be my first go-to product, if I wanted a physical volumen knob for JRiver!

It comes highly recommended.


It seems it works only with windows 7. I am almost windows 10 and on windows 8 now.  So this would not work. It was perfect... sigh....
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jjazdk

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 12:43:24 am »

It seems it works only with windows 7. I am almost windows 10 and on windows 8 now.  So this would not work. It was perfect... sigh....

It works on Windows 8.1, because that is what I use 😁

I don't see any reason why it would not work on Windows 10 as well.
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 02:41:55 pm »

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes#Media_Center_Remote



http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-NA16029-Multimedia-Controller/dp/B003VWU2WA

Both look good , but im a tad confused as to whether the Griffin will be for me

I want to control all aspects of my MC 212 experience , Ie control volume , browse , search etc

as if i was using a keyboard , but with a remote . Like i control my tv with a remote

Which would work best for that experience ?

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 02:55:52 pm »

I can't speak to the Griffin, but I know there are plenty of ppl here using the standard Windows MCE remote (or clone) to control Theater View / Playback. The buttons are pre-mapped, so no config necessary.

There are also the phone based controllers - JRemote & Gizmo.

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 03:04:41 pm »

I can't speak to the Griffin, but I know there are plenty of ppl here using the standard Windows MCE remote (or clone) to control Theater View / Playback. The buttons are pre-mapped, so no config necessary.

There are also the phone based controllers - JRemote & Gizmo.

Thanks

When you say the standard windows MCE remote ( or clone ) , to be specific , is that the HP as mentioned ? Or some other option ?

Thanks
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leperlord

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2015, 08:45:43 pm »

How about an IR remote control?

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Remotes#Media_Center_Remote

Brian.

Hey blgentry

Can i still get that exact remote somewhere ? Or at least very similar

Thats exactly how i pic myself using JRiver

Cheers
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2015, 08:48:57 pm »

^ Honestly, I haven't looked into buying one, but I've seen links here in the forum to Amazon listings for WMC remotes that are very similar.  I would expect them to be widely available.

Brian.
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leperlord

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2015, 09:09:05 pm »

^ Honestly, I haven't looked into buying one, but I've seen links here in the forum to Amazon listings for WMC remotes that are very similar.  I would expect them to be widely available.

Brian.

Tnx mate

So is there a unique one i need to control things in JRiver , i want to control volume and just about anything i can with my keyboard

Can any IF remote for pc work with JRiver or is there a select few ?

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2015, 01:35:41 am »

Any remote that works with Windows Media Center should work.  Look for one with a green button.

The wiki has a topic on Remotes.
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leperlord

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 11:09:59 am »

Thank you

I ve been considering one of the many air mouse/remotes

i realized that i dont need JRiver audio/volume control since i run it all

through my DAC and amp , thats where i control volume

So i just need to do all the other browse functions

Any advice there appreciated

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 07:43:22 pm »

Does anyone know about vaporware NEEO?  It looks interesting because it looks like it has both hard buttons and touch screen for two way communication over wifi. It's like the perfect combo and there's nothing else like it, except Creetron/AMX($$$$$).

Of course, it's not available yet. However, it would be kewl if JRiver could work with NEEO. I'm guessing there's an opportunity to make JRiver TV much better with the two way communication possibilities (eg. TV channel guide on remote). It seems like JRiver has given up on jremote. I'm okay with that because I've never been totally happy with any tablet remote solution; including my best efforts with Irule. Currently, the best user friendly hard button remotes are still IR with goofy IR blasters (Logitech harmony). IR is a joke when tcp/ip is available. I hope JRiver makes overtures toward NEEO to make a good mutually beneficial partnership. Now, maybe NEEO is plagued with delays because they can't get it together. I don't know. But I think it's worth investigating since JRiver wants to be a real player in the cablecard arena.

Merry Christmas,
Michael.
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 09:01:50 pm »

Ray Super Remote is another possibility. Although I'm not sure whether it works with MCE commands.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ray-super-remote-named-as-ces-2016-innovation-awards-honoree-300179338.html
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 10:55:50 pm »

I've got a few Intel NUC's around the house and use different remotes that have volume buttons or can be programmed to have them

http://www.amazon.com/iPazzPort-Wireless-Keyboard-Backlight-KP-810-16/dp/B006OW1J1M/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1451019084&sr=8-5&keywords=ipazzport

And the Aerb
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K768DHY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages08
I prefer the Aerb as it seems more solidly made, the option to turn off the pointer is easy to use while using the buttons (auto shuts off pointed when flipped).
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2015, 02:27:23 am »

Personally i use a Traktor Kontrol F1 + Bome's Midi translator Pro  ;D
Nothing that can't be done with those two.

Also a lot of freedom of configuration with:
dual action on press/release.
Press-> Action 1 -> Release -> Action 2 (Example: Press button = mute sound, release button = unmute sound)

Or action only on press button (or action only on release button)

Plenty of button to use for JRiver and for windows (you can launch windows shortcut file, program etc..)

All with custom color to help you remember which is what.










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Oliverlim

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2015, 08:07:50 pm »

Personally i use a Traktor Kontrol F1 + Bome's Midi translator Pro  ;D
Nothing that can't be done with those two.
This is surely cool. But way way overkill for me. Unless its cheap!  :-p
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Oliverlim

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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2015, 08:09:16 pm »

It works on Windows 8.1, because that is what I use 😁

I don't see any reason why it would not work on Windows 10 as well.

Reviews and reports I read in forums seem to indicate that it only works in windows 7 and below.. Hmm.. if this works in windows 8.1, its the perfect solution. Did you have to do anything to get it to work?  So the knob controls jriver volume. Does the button press work to mute the volume as well?
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2015, 01:35:28 am »

Reviews and reports I read in forums seem to indicate that it only works in windows 7 and below.. Hmm.. if this works in windows 8.1, its the perfect solution. Did you have to do anything to get it to work?  So the knob controls jriver volume. Does the button press work to mute the volume as well?

*scratches my head*

Hmm... Perhaps I am mistaken then, I seem to recall a special installation procedure, but that is about it.. Hmmm.... I used it mainly for iTunes, to control volume, pause and skip tracks.
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
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Re: Physical volume knob to control mc21 volume
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2016, 09:56:46 pm »

I just made one with an old arduino and potentiatomro that I had sitting around.  If anyone wants the sketch, let me know

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