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MusicHawk

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PDF Management
« on: April 21, 2017, 08:06:13 pm »

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I'd love to see better PDF tagging. Then I could use JRiver to tag sheet music and pair sheet music, chord charts, and scores with recordings.

YES! This is another area where MC is tantalizingly close (perhaps unintended). Those of us who use music "on paper" would love to use MC for this, as we do (or should do) with our many audio files. I have a huge (and growing) sheet music library, as does every musician I know, and no one has a really good way to manage it all.

Most musicians now use music reader apps on Android (Mobile Sheets Pro is my fave) or IOS on tablets (or even phones) to display the sheet music PDFs. These apps provide a tad of PDF organization. But using a small touch screen with these special-purpose apps is impractical for truly managing hundreds (or my thousands) of PDFs.

The main MC needs for performing musicians:

-- click-to-view-PDF (likely via a PDF viewer separately installed, there are many, mostly free)

-- tagging PDFs with a set of suitable fields (the various music reader apps have this pinned down, just do the same)

-- storing the tags in PDFs so the other apps can read them, which most do, assuming the "common" tags are used

There are other capabilities that would be cool, such as sync with a specified tablet folder, but that can be done other ways.

PS: MC could be the solution for many PDF management needs beyond sheet music. Any lawyers or business people or educators or other humans in the MC customer zone?
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 09:15:07 pm »

With the whole PDF thing, maybe consider giving users the ability to display PDFs in a separate detached window so they can, for example, read a PDF manual, and change settings in side by side windows. 
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2017, 07:06:29 am »

YES! This is another area where MC is tantalizingly close (perhaps unintended). Those of us who use music "on paper" would love to use MC for this, as we do (or should do) with our many audio files. I have a huge (and growing) sheet music library, as does every musician I know, and no one has a really good way to manage it all.

Most musicians now use music reader apps on Android (Mobile Sheets Pro is my fave) or IOS on tablets (or even phones) to display the sheet music PDFs. These apps provide a tad of PDF organization. But using a small touch screen with these special-purpose apps is impractical for truly managing hundreds (or my thousands) of PDFs.

The main MC needs for performing musicians:

-- click-to-view-PDF (likely via a PDF viewer separately installed, there are many, mostly free)

-- tagging PDFs with a set of suitable fields (the various music reader apps have this pinned down, just do the same)

-- storing the tags in PDFs so the other apps can read them, which most do, assuming the "common" tags are used

There are other capabilities that would be cool, such as sync with a specified tablet folder, but that can be done other ways.

PS: MC could be the solution for many PDF management needs beyond sheet music. Any lawyers or business people or educators or other humans in the MC customer zone?

MC can already be used for pdf management in most of the ways you described.  MC can import and tag pdfs as data files and open them in an external program. I don't think MC can store tags in the pdf files yet, but there's a feature request for improved tagging of e-books generally.

Pdfs are already supported by default, but for tips on using MC with ebooks, and for other ebook types, see:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,87545.0.html

There have also been some recent improvements in data file handling, for example two of the three big requests in this thread have been implemented which made it much easier to use data files.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,103267.msg731950.html
 
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 08:23:40 am »

Great info, I'm not surprised that MC is already pretty capable in this regard. Thanks for the info mwillems and musichawk.

Solid PDF tagging would really complete the picture here. The most commonly used program I know of for reading PDF scores at gigs is IOS forScore, and it sorts files by tag searches and something like a playlist.

I'll play around with my current files for the next week or so and see which file tags work and which don't​ with JRiver and ForScore, as well as common PDF readers such as Adobe and MS.

Rename Move and Copy tool would be epic used in conjunction with PDF file tags, it would provide the muscle and organizational tools that these programs lack.

Exciting!

 [Edit] whoa... just dug around Interact and found plans for a JRiver Office suite circa 2004?  http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,21851.msg152363.html#msg152363
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 08:26:00 am »

Sometimes I hate having a permanent record of what I've said.
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 08:33:20 am »

This is still right on, especially in regards to sorting and navigating PDF music scores from multiple sources with different naming schemes:

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The problem it doesn't solve is management of thousands of files, so many files that it's impossible to remember what's there or where it is.  It's also tedious to "drill down" into directory after directory in hopes of finding the right directory and the right file.
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Re: PDF Management
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2017, 08:54:51 am »

Here's our new office suite:



More pictures of the building in progress.  We're moving about a mile west in a couple of weeks.
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