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[bytestar]

Now that mp3 is officially dead, how can I use mc to create AAC files not ALAC i need this for my mobile phone.

https://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/en/ff/amm/prod/audiocodec/audiocodecs/mp3.html

[Awesome Donkey]

I honestly don't see mp3 going anywhere anytime soon regardless what Fraunhofer says (even though AAC is superior).

Might have to use the external encoder option to do it, not sure. I'd be very hesitant converting one lossy format (mp3) to another lossy format (AAC).

Man, I wish FLAC or ALAC would become the standard.

[Hendrik]

If anything, MP3 patents expiring should make it more alive, since its now entirely free to use. There is no reason to consider it any more dead today then any day before.

[bytestar]

No reconvert only for new Audio Riping 

I honestly don't see mp3 going anywhere anytime soon regardless what Fraunhofer says (even though AAC is superior).

Might have to use the external encoder option to do it, not sure. I'd be very hesitant converting one lossy format (mp3) to another lossy format (AAC).

[bytestar]

But my Question is how can i create aac with mc for my mobile phone?

If anything, MP3 patents expiring should make it more alive, since its now entirely free to use. There is no reason to consider it any more dead today then any day before.

[Awesome Donkey]

Likely using the external encoder with one of these: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=AAC_encoders

[Hendrik]

We can possibly add a standalone AAC encoder for MC23 based on the same encoder we already use for video transcoding.

[bytestar]

That would be a terrific thing, Yes please

We can possibly add a standalone AAC encoder for MC23 based on the same encoder we already use for video transcoding.

[blgentry]

No reconvert only for new Audio Riping 

I would encourage you to rip to a lossless format like FLAC.  Then selectively convert your content, using Handheld Sync to a lossy format to be used on your portable players.  Like AAC as you are asking about.

Disk space is cheap and getting cheaper all the time.  There aren't a lot of good reasons to rip to a lossy format any more.  I regret all the wasted time I spent ripping to AAC in 2006-2008 .  I've re-done pretty much all of the ripping I did back then and bunch more; all to lossless FLAC.

Brian.

[bytestar]

My Most Contents are Flac or AAC but flac is to big for Phone use, it would be nice to have a Option to reconvert flac to aac during handheld sync.

I would encourage you to rip to a lossless format like FLAC.  Then selectively convert your content, using Handheld Sync to a lossy format to be used on your portable players.  Like AAC as you are asking about.

Disk space is cheap and getting cheaper all the time.  There aren't a lot of good reasons to rip to a lossy format any more.  I regret all the wasted time I spent ripping to AAC in 2006-2008 .  I've re-done pretty much all of the ripping I did back then and bunch more; all to lossless FLAC.

Brian.

[bob]

I would encourage you to rip to a lossless format like FLAC.  Then selectively convert your content, using Handheld Sync to a lossy format to be used on your portable players.  Like AAC as you are asking about.

Disk space is cheap and getting cheaper all the time.  There aren't a lot of good reasons to rip to a lossy format any more.  I regret all the wasted time I spent ripping to AAC in 2006-2008 .  I've re-done pretty much all of the ripping I did back then and bunch more; all to lossless FLAC.

Brian.

Me too.
I started out with mp3 with soundjam and am now re-ripping everything to ALAC. I started out using FLAC but when I occasionally want to put something onto my iPhone, the easiest way is to have all of the files in ALAC and share the file location with iTunez and have it convert to aac for use on my phone.

There is a downside to ALAC though. It seems like it can't stream as well as FLAC from my Id. I assume because it's an mp4 container. Sigh.

[MusicHawk]

News reports of the end of MP3 are dead wrong. The media received False News and published it.

All that happened is the patent holder stopped issuing licenses because they are no longer in control, so there is nothing to license. To misdirect the media, they are trying to imply that their loss of control of MP3 somehow is "the end". Because instead they want a switch to newer methods that they control therefore must be paid for. The media that usually does not grasp anything beyond superficial is just repeating the self-serving story.

Of course new rips shouldn't use MP3. But as the most universally supported format (car radios use it!) any true end will be decades from now, if ever.

The user misunderstanding will spread, with people converting their existing MP3 files to FLAC or AAC or whatever, just making things worse (MP3 audio in a larger file size???). But if original uncompressed sources are available for MP3 files that have audible compromise, re-ripping to a better format might be useful.

I've been using FLAC in recent years, but have so much vinyl still stacked up to rip for the first time that I won't re-doing any early-years MP3s unless I find a bad one, which is actually quite rare. I've played LP tracks in parallel with MP3 rips of them I did 15 years ago and switching back and forth, they are virtually identical, certainly no cause for re-rip. (Where I find more difference is LP vs. commercial CD, with the LP sounding richer but the CD having more bass.)

[bytestar]

I think everyone knows that we can not convert a lossy format in a lossless format. 
When you say a CD have more bass than a LP, then you have a bad cartridge and needle 

(Where I find more difference is LP vs. commercial CD, with the LP sounding richer but the CD having more bass.)

[Awesome Donkey]

I think everyone knows that we can not convert a lossy format in a lossless format. 

Doesn't stop people from doing it, sadly.

We can possibly add a standalone AAC encoder for MC23 based on the same encoder we already use for video transcoding.

This would be great, actually. I'm willing to convert all my phone MP3s to AAC to save some space (using FLAC as the source for said lossless to lossy conversion - not doing lossy to lossy!).

[BryanC]

We can possibly add a standalone AAC encoder for MC23 based on the same encoder we already use for video transcoding.

If you are going to dig into this, built-in Opus support would be much appreciated.

[Awesome Donkey]

If you are going to dig into this, built-in Opus support would be much appreciated.

Oh yes, this too please!

[MusicHawk]

When you say a CD have more bass than a LP, then you have a bad cartridge and needle 

No, there's a technical reason, a physical limitation. When mastering LPs, bass amplitude is limited to prevent the groove from swinging so wide it affects the adjacent grooves (in the extreme it can toss the stylus out of the groove). There's usually plenty of bass on a vinyl record, it's just that CDs don't have this physical limitation so can be mastered with more bass if desired.

[imeric]

I've been using QAAC (Apple AAC encoder. Just google it) as an external encoder inside MC but I ran into an issue where MC doesn't estimate the compressed filesize like it's able to do with the internal MP3 Encoder.  If there was a way for MC to ignore the filesize limitation of the device I would probably use it instead of the internal one...More here:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,94851.msg656547.html#msg656547

You can also find more info on interact here:  https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,63899.msg427533.html#msg427533

You'll find attached what I used  sometimes.  I also used the fdkaac which is also very good.

I currently use the internal MP3 encoder for handheld sync for ipod and Android with the MP3 extreme setup.  Works like a charm and is good enough for the handheld IMHO.  Also leaves 320kbps mp3 files untouched.  It just converts my FLAC/ALAC/DSF files.  I you want smaller bitrates then yes aac would be better... 

Good luck!

[lepa]

My Most Contents are Flac or AAC but flac is to big for Phone use, it would be nice to have a Option to reconvert flac to aac during handheld sync.

Isn't it possible already? (Been using streaming instead of sync for years so not sure if I remember correctly)

[lepa]

Oh yes, this too please!

Opus for low bandwidth streaming would be nice. (...and tagging support in MC also)

[glynor]

News reports of the end of MP3 are dead wrong. The media received False News and published it.

All that happened is the patent holder stopped issuing licenses because they are no longer in control, so there is nothing to license. To misdirect the media, they are trying to imply that their loss of control of MP3 somehow is "the end".

I'm late but yes... Nice article about how dumb the news stories about this were:
https://marco.org/2017/05/15/mp3-isnt-dead