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[Harroun4]

From several of the topics I have read over, some users seem to have been able to rip SACD's and play from a computer or appropriate player. The only thing I have eve seen to do this ripping involves something with an original Playstation 1 and some sort of rue Goldberg setup. That looks like a daunting task.

I would love to be able to paly these discs with the push of a button rather than inserting into a player drive.

Thanks and regards, Harroun

[Spike1000]

It is now possible to rip SACD with certain Oppo and Pioneer Blu-Ray players

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/sacd-ripping-using-oppo-or-pioneer-yes-its-true-29251

Spike

[Harroun4]

Most interesting, especially since I have an OPPO 105D unit. but have added a "Blueraychip" kit for multiregional or unlocked use. That can be removed if it interferes. I am wondering somehow that would somehow free the ability to extract the SACD data.

I am waiting to hear more about this program.

Actually if a Sony changer could be modified to output through its HDMI, I could be happy with that. I'm a lazy person and if I have to fiddle handling the disc's I soon lose interest. But with my music either in changers or ripped to a media player and in continuous play mode, that satisfies me.

Regards, Harroun

[Sky King]

I just purchased a used BDP-103 that was code-free and region-free.  I am now happily ripping SACDs to DSF as fast as the drive will spin!  I believe there is some success with a Pioneer player or two as well.

As Spike said, Computeraudiophile, the forum, has good info on this if you choose to further research this.

[kr4]

Simple Instructions for PC users with iso2dsd (adapted from grill's post)

1) Connect your player to your LAN according to the player's manual. Write down the IP address of your player. Check if you see your player in Windows/Network/Media Devices of your PC connected to the same LAN.

2) Copy the unzipped AutoScript folder to the root of a USB stick. You can leave your other files on your stick.

3) Copy the iso2dsd_PC_v7 (from Sonore iso2DSD) unzipped folder files to a drive of your PC connected to your LAN. Make sure your drive has enough free space for the SACD iso(s) to be ripped.

4) Turn on your player and turn off the Auto Play Mode and Auto Resume in the Playback Setup. Connect your prepared USB stick to your player. The tray should open. You can leave your USB stick in your player or remove it.

5) Insert an SACD and close the tray. Wait until the player recognizes the disc.

6) Run iso2dsd_gui.exe from the drive on your PC. Select Server Input from topleft. Select Raw ISO as the Output Mode. Enter the IP address of your player (from Step 1) in the IP Address Port window*. Click on Execute. The ripping process should start within few seconds.

7) When dsd2iso indicates Done, eject disc and repeat from Step 5 (or click Quit).

8 ) Remove USB stick and reboot to return to normal player use.


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*The options for Channel Mode and Convert DST to DSD are irrelevant for ripping to ISO. I recommend clicking on Print to see a track listing in iso2dsd before ripping begins.

Here's a link to it in context:  http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/sacd-ripping-using-oppo-or-pioneer-yes-its-true-29251/index6.html#post565542

[Harroun4]

So many thanks. This is fantastic and has to be one of the best bits of information I have received over the internet. I can not believe that something is working that I have tried so hard find a way and was ready to go along way to accomplish. This is working quite nicely and simply. It amazing to me, since reading the above and not leaving my room here in Bangkok or spending any money I am ripping SACD's

This old man is not up to date anymore on audio engineering and computer stuff any more so had to stumble around a bit, but it is working. I am not used to not unzipping zip files. Once I got beyond that, the next mistake I made was on the OPPO 105d I had a second UBB device plugged in. When inserting the thumb drive nothing happened. After removing the other device, then it worked as described.

It looks like to me that ripping to DSF files instead of ISO will work best. So now I can have all my music on one large SSD 4TB and access available at a click of the mouse.

Any other solution I had looked at appeared fiddly to negotiate.

Thanks again. Harroun

[kr4]

It looks like to me that ripping to DSF files instead of ISO will work best. So now I can have all my music on one large SSD 4TB and access available at a click of the mouse.

I do not recommend that.  I suggest ripping to ISO from the Oppo and keeping the ISOs off-line on back-up drives.  Bulk conversions of the ISOs to DSF are very fast.

[greynolds]

I do not recommend that.  I suggest ripping to ISO from the Oppo and keeping the ISOs off-line on back-up drives.  Bulk conversions of the ISOs to DSF are very fast.

I'll second that advice.

[Harroun4]

I started going to ISO, but could not get JRiver to play it. What software to you recommend to convert from ISO to DSF? I had thought that "RedFox" could do the conversion, but no.

Thanks again. This is so helpful.

Harroun, BKK

PS: as I said before, I old man. So don't always see what is right in front of me. I always seem to have to learn the hard way.

[Awesome Donkey]

I started going to ISO, but could not get JRiver to play it. What software to you recommend to convert from ISO to DSF? I had thought that "RedFox" could do the conversion, but no.

RedFox aka AnyDVD doesn't work for SACDs at all. For SACD conversion from ISO to DSF there's apps like Sonore's ISO2DSD. There's also an app by bogi called ISO2DSF which does the job.

In my opinion, SACD ISOs work best when a CUE file is used along with it.

[JimH]

Also try a search here and on the wiki for iso files.

[kr4]

I started going to ISO, but could not get JRiver to play it.

MC has been playing those ISOs for many years as DSF or PCM (user's choice) and I never use CUE files.  What messages are you getting?

What software to you recommend to convert from ISO to DSF? I had thought that "RedFox" could do the conversion, but no.

I have never heard of "RedFox but the same ISO2DSD that I use for ripping does the conversion to DSF handily and in batch!

PS: as I said before, I old man. So don't always see what is right in front of me. I always seem to have to learn the hard way.

Age is no excuse to me or for me. 

[JimH]

Age is no excuse to me or for me. 

Or me.  I have to laugh when I see someone say that 60 is old.

[Harroun4]

Say, On the same train of thought a bit, even before this ripping thing I had bought some "studio Quality" DSF files scan rate of 2.8MHz multi cannel and 11MHz stereo. Two things I notice, When attaching artwork it is not embedded in the DSF file. Second when playing them via MC22 the program promptly converts to 96KHz and 2 channel, saying my equipment will not support the higher rate. So I have to play them directly on my OPPO 105D player and it does the DAC conversion at the native rate of medium. On the 105 I notice the artwork is not there even after adding it to the files using MC. FLAC files and other types work OK.

I would like very much to use MC to play the higher rates for convenience sake.

Thanks and regards, Harroun

[kr4]

Say, On the same train of thought a bit, even before this ripping thing I had bought some "studio Quality" DSF files scan rate of 2.8MHz multi cannel and 11MHz stereo. Two things I notice, When attaching artwork it is not embedded in the DSF file. Second when playing them via MC22 the program promptly converts to 96KHz and 2 cannel saying my equipment will not support the higher rate.

You should be able to designate the specfic output format you and your DAC require.  Something in the setup.

[Harroun4]

Well, this "young" man, clocking in at 74 now. Is too clever for his own good. I thought it would be a good idea to run the Sonore program from a network drive so I would be ripping directly to the disc I plan to keep the files on. It does not work. And now there is something wrong with the registry and it will not run on the original computer. OH!!!

All efforts to remedy fail so far. Registry First Aid did not help.  Thank goodness I keep a second computer mirrored up to the main one.

Harroun

[Harroun4]

Attached is the error message I am getting. In the DSP studio I am not finding any settings that will work. I am open to more suggestions.

Regards, Harroun

[kr4]

Attached is the error message I am getting. In the DSP studio I am not finding any settings that will work. I am open to more suggestions.

Regards, Harroun

What are you setting for output in DSP studio?

[Harroun4]

Attached is the screen shot of the DSP settings. I tried a few things with no luck. The same warning kept coming up unless I set at 96K or lower.

Regards, Harroun

[kr4]

Set the individual sample rates to the one you need.

[Harroun4]

Sorry, I tried a couple of rates, and the same thing. Wants to roll back 96KHz.

And tomorrow I have to fly back from BKK to USA for emergency visit. I will try to continue this on my return.

Regards, Harroun

[Fitzcaraldo215]

Attached is the screen shot of the DSP settings. I tried a few things with no luck. The same warning kept coming up unless I set at 96K or lower.

Regards, Harroun

If you are using an Oppo 105 as the DAC, it is limited to 192k PCM input via HDMI or coax per the specs.  I assume that is also true if you are using USB.  Which are you using?

So, you are getting the message because your DSP Studio parameters are not downconverting DSD to something below 192k PCM.  I would recommend changing the conversion parameters there such that any and every input that is a multiple of 44K be converted to 88k or 176k.  Any input that is a multiple of 48k should be converted to 96k or 192k. (It may be debatable, but I recommend even multiples of 44 or 48k for best sound. I use 176k myself for playback of SACD rips, since the DSD sampling rate is a multiple of 44k. However, any rate will still work as long as you stay below the DAC's maximum.)

The above should handle any input formats into an Oppo.  It is more complicated, but you could also bitstream unconverted DSD into an Oppo via HDMI.  You would probably want to set up a different zone for that output so as not to interfere with playback of non-DSD source material.  However, that bitstreaming would also play DSF or DSD ISO files on the Oppo via HDMI. There is more info on this elsewhere on this site.

[Harroun4]

Thanks for info. I am currently using HDMI out of the computer to the OPPO. In general I have had good luck with that for both music and videos. In a few hours I must fly back to USA and have no time for testing until my return.

Thanks for the info I will study it carefully and see what I can do.

Regards, Harroun

[Hilton]

I'm about to go on this journey myself with a 103D - never thought I'd buy a bluray player but this is worth it.

Just one note I saw in the fine print over at the computeraudiophile thread - you can take this as you please - If you rip to ISO and then convert to DSF with JRiver you're going through an extra PCM conversion. (someone will shoot me down pretty quick on that I know) but for some that's important.  IF you rip to DSF then there is no intermediate PCM conversion - just native DSF which can be played with many DACs or converted to PCM as needed.

[Harroun4]

Thanks for the info. I figured that since I have the CD's on site there was not reason to use ISO. Usually when we reduce the number of conversions and devices the signal has to pass through the better the sound. In a way I think this why what I have nos sounds so good. Just the 105D, four quality stereo amplifiers and a collection of LS3/5a and LS3/6 speakers from Stirling Broadcast. Super sound, one is not aware of the location of the speakers. That is ffrom 2 channel all the way to 7.

Regards, Harroun.

Now for 32 hours of air travel, Ugh!!

[greynolds]

I'm about to go on this journey myself with a 103D - never thought I'd buy a bluray player but this is worth it.

Just one note I saw in the fine print over at the computeraudiophile thread - you can take this as you please - If you rip to ISO and then convert to DSF with JRiver you're going through an extra PCM conversion. (someone will shoot me down pretty quick on that I know) but for some that's important.  IF you rip to DSF then there is no intermediate PCM conversion - just native DSF which can be played with many DACs or converted to PCM as needed.

As kr4 (that's Kal Rubinson, by the way...) suggested, it's best practice to rip to ISO then convert to dsf files separately.  There's no need to use JRiver to extract the dsf files; especially if it converts to PCM as part of the process.  The same tool (sacd_extract) that was used to extract the ISO file from the player can also be used to extract the dsf files from the ISO.

To extract the ISO from the player, you use a batch file with the following (change the IP address to match the IP address of your player):

Code: [Select]

@echo off
sacd_extract -I -i192.168.1.13:2002
To extract dsf files (Stereo) from all ISO files in the current folder, use a batch file with the following:

Code: [Select]

@Echo Off
FOR /F "tokens=*" %%k IN ('dir /b *.iso') DO "sacd_extract.exe" -2 -c -s -i"%%k"
Echo Extraction Completed
Pause
To extract dsf files (Multichannel) from all ISO files in the current folder, use a batch file with the following:

Code: [Select]

@Echo Off
FOR /F "tokens=*" %%k IN ('dir /b *.iso') DO "sacd_extract.exe" -m -c -s -i"%%k"
Echo Extraction Completed
Pause
If you want to just extract dsf files from a single ISO at a time, you can use:

Stereo:

Code: [Select]

sacd_extract.exe -2 -c -s -iFILENAME.iso
Multichannel:

Code: [Select]

sacd_extract.exe -m -c -s -iFILENAME.iso

[Harroun4]

Just took a peek at the specs on the inputs of the OPPO 105D. And I am up against the limits of HDM Input. 7.1 channel is 96KHz. 5.1 is double of that. If I switch to USB then the spec is a little confusing but now talking high MHz.

When I return to Bangkok in 10 days will do some experimenting, no time left for now. But it really looks like the best way to deal with ultra high DSF files is let the OPPO do the reading from the files directly over the USB or Ethernet. Or of course the disc.

More later. Hope Montana has not started it's winter, I get cold with anything under 80F after my life in the tropics.

Harroun

[greynolds]

Just took a peek at the specs on the inputs of the OPPO 105D. And I am up against the limits of HDM Input. 7.1 channel is 96KHz. 5.1 is double of that. If I switch to USB then the spec is a little confusing but now talking high MHz.

When I return to Bangkok in 10 days will do some experimenting, no time left for now. But it really looks like the best way to deal with ultra high DSF files is let the OPPO do the reading from the files directly over the USB or Ethernet. Or of course the disc.

Unless something has changed recently, you can't send DSD from a PC via HDMI anyway, so using HDMI from a JRiver PC definitely isn't an option if you want to send DSD to the Oppo.  DLNA (you can use JRiver's JRemote to push content to the Oppo) or network shares are probably your best options.  I'm pretty sure USB from the PC to the Oppo's USB DAC input would also work.

More later. Hope Montana has not started it's winter, I get cold with anything under 80F after my life in the tropics.

You're definitely going to find it chilly in Montana at this point (it's currently 28°F in Bozeman).  Safe travels.

[Fitzcaraldo215]

I'm about to go on this journey myself with a 103D - never thought I'd buy a bluray player but this is worth it.

Just one note I saw in the fine print over at the computeraudiophile thread - you can take this as you please - If you rip to ISO and then convert to DSF with JRiver you're going through an extra PCM conversion. (someone will shoot me down pretty quick on that I know) but for some that's important.  IF you rip to DSF then there is no intermediate PCM conversion - just native DSF which can be played with many DACs or converted to PCM as needed.

Per the above discussion by Kal and others, it is best to use Sonore iso2dsd in 2 steps.  The first rips the SACD to ISO files on your PC or network from the Oppo connected to the network.  The second iso2dsd step extracts (can be done in batches) DSF files from the ISOs generated in step one.  There is no intermediate conversion to PCM in these steps.  There is no sonic degradation introduced in these steps.  Although it is possible to do this in one step skipping the generation of the ISO, that is not recommended.

Then, the DSF (or the ISO) can be played by JRiver either (a.) via bitstreaming (HDMI or USB),  or (b.) it can be converted on the fly to PCM using the conversion sampling rate parameters in DSP Studio. 

I have ripped to ISO myself, but I do not include the ISOs in my JRiver library.  I include the DSFs in the library for playback.  The DSFs are fully taggable and JRiver can write the tags to the DSF media files, including any custom tag fields.  This provides a layer of backup protection for the tag data, since it is in both the JR library and the media files.  It is not possible to write tags back to ISO media files.  But, if I ever needed to recreate the JR library, a simple import of the DSF files would recreate it including all tags, thumbnails, etc. I may have manually entered.

[Fitzcaraldo215]

Unless something has changed recently, you can't send DSD from a PC via HDMI anyway, so using HDMI from a JRiver PC definitely isn't an option if you want to send DSD to the Oppo.  DLNA (you can use JRiver's JRemote to push content to the Oppo) or network shares are probably your best options.  I'm pretty sure USB from the PC to the Oppo's USB DAC input would also work.
You're definitely going to find it chilly in Montana at this point (it's currently 28°F in Bozeman).  Safe travels.

To be clear, I hope, DSD can be sent via JRiver bitstreaming from the PC via HDMI or USB, provided your DAC supports DSD input at the appropriate DSD sampling rate.  So called "DSD64" = 2.8MHz is the normal sampling rate used for DSD on SACD.  I have bitstreamed DSD downloads which  were at four times that rate = DSD256 at 5.1 channels from JRiver into my Exasound DAC via USB which supports that. 

However, the Oppo 105D specs seem to say you are right.  It lists HDMI inputs as PCM only up to 192k for HDMI up to 5.1, or 96k up to 7.1.  The Oppo via USB input is stereo only up to PCM192k or DSD128.  Only the HDMI input can be multichannel.  DLNA via Ethernet is something I do not need or want, and it adds complexity.

Other devices, including my old Integra Prepro, could accept DSD64 with up to 7.1 channels via HDMI.  Curiously, I have used it in 5.1 DSD64 from SACD discs that way using the HDMI OUTPUT from an Oppo 83 or 93.

[greynolds]

To be clear, I hope, DSD can be sent via JRiver bitstreaming from the PC via HDMI or USB, provided your DAC supports DSD input at the appropriate DSD sampling rate.  So called "DSD64" = 2.8MHz is the normal sampling rate used for DSD on SACD.  I have bitstreamed DSD downloads which  were at four times that rate = DSD256 at 5.1 channels from JRiver into my Exasound DAC via USB which supports that. 

However, the Oppo 105D specs seem to say you are right.  It lists HDMI inputs as PCM only up to 192k for HDMI up to 5.1, or 96k up to 7.1.  The Oppo via USB input is stereo only up to PCM192k or DSD128.  Only the HDMI input can be multichannel.  DLNA via Ethernet is something I do not need or want, and it adds complexity.

Other devices, including my old Integra Prepro, could accept DSD64 with up to 7.1 channels via HDMI.  Curiously, I have used it in 5.1 DSD64 from SACD discs that way using the HDMI OUTPUT from an Oppo 83 or 93.

It's correct that the Oppo HDMI inputs do not accept DSD.  It's also true that some HDMI outputs on Oppo's can transport DSD (on the BDP-103 and BDP-105 only HDMI2 out can, on the BDP-103D and BDP-105D, both HDMI outputs can).

However, most, if not all, PC video cards are not able to output DSD via HDMI.  For example, my Denon AVP-A1HDCI pre-pro will accept DSD via its HDMI inputs, but I can't connect my PC to one of the HDMI inputs and send DSD to my pre-pro as the limitation is on the PC side.

I'm not sure why you consider using DLNA a problem.  As far as I'm concerned you pick your poison of using JRiver's DLNA functionality or relying on the USB driver to work well.  Depending on the DAC you may need to install software on the PC to get everything to work (that's certainly the case for the Oppo).  IMHO, either option adds a layer or 2 of complexity.

But if all that's desired is stereo DSD, then using USB output from the PC into an Oppo BDP-105 or BDP-105D USB DAC input is a perfectly reasonable option.  In this case, JRemote can still be used so you don't have to be sitting right at the PC to select what to listen to.

[kr4]

As kr4 (that's Kal Rubinson, by the way...) suggested, it's best practice to rip to ISO then convert to dsf files separately.  There's no need to use JRiver to extract the dsf files; especially if it converts to PCM as part of the process.  The same tool (sacd_extract) that was used to extract the ISO file from the player can also be used to extract the dsf files from the ISO.

To extract the ISO from the player, you use a batch file with the following (change the IP address to match the IP address of your player):

Correct although I was suggesting the alternative of doing both with ISO2DSD.

FWIW, I do use JRiver to convert ISO/DSF to PCM on the fly. 

[greynolds]

Correct although I was suggesting the alternative of doing both with ISO2DSD.

Which actually uses sacd_extract under the covers - it's just a UI wrapper for it.  Absolutely nothing wrong with that though as it's definitely easier to use than the command line.

[dtc]

Anyone have any insight as to whether or not MC converts to PCM when converting from ISO to DSF or when playing ISO files? If it does, that seems like to big drawback to using MC for ISO conversions?  I am not a big ISO guy, but I don't remember reading that a conversion to PCM was involved.

[kr4]

Anyone have any insight as to whether or not MC converts to PCM when converting from ISO to DSF or when playing ISO files? If it does, that seems like to big drawback to using MC for ISO conversions?  I am not a big ISO guy, but I don't remember reading that a conversion to PCM was involved.

I would hope that you get an "official" statement from others.

As far as I know, it does when up/down-sampling DSF but not when converting ISO to DSF.

[dtc]

I would hope that you get an "official" statement from others.

As far as I know, it does when up/down-sampling DSF but not when converting ISO to DSF.

Kal, that is what I thought. But there seemed to be a claim that ISO to DSF also went through PCM. That is what needs to be clarified.

[Awesome Donkey]

All conversions in MC goes through PCM. So SACD ISO to DSF, SACD ISO to DFF, DSF to DFF, DFF to DSF, etc. So every conversion in MC goes through PCM. It was brought up in the following topic lately:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,107488.0.html

Any audio conversion in MC uses our PCM audio engine, and we're not about to disable some conversion options based on what is the input format. The entire point is to be able to convert anything into anything.
We also do not plan to add another conversion engine that uses DSD internally at this point, sorry.

Now, if you're playing a SACD ISO or DSF/DFF files and DSD bitstreaming is enabled, there's no PCM conversion - straight DSD output. However if DSD bitstreaming is disabled, it'll go through PCM.

[Matt]

Anyone have any insight as to whether or not MC converts to PCM when converting from ISO to DSF or when playing ISO files?

If you play an ISO with bitstreaming of DSD enabled, there will be no conversion.

As for the first part of your question, if you mean DSP Studio's "Output Encoding" selection in DSD mode, all the data will first be converted to PCM, and then later to DSD.

[kr4]

If you play an ISO with bitstreaming of DSD enabled, there will be no conversion.

As for the first part of your question, if you mean DSP Studio's "Output Encoding" selection in DSD mode, all the data will first be converted to PCM, and then later to DSD.

Thanks.  That is what I thought but I worded my response sloppily.  All conversions involve a PCM intermediary.  However, playing an ISO (or a DSF) on the fly does not.

[dtc]

If you play an ISO with bitstreaming of DSD enabled, there will be no conversion.

As for the first part of your question, if you mean DSP Studio's "Output Encoding" selection in DSD mode, all the data will first be converted to PCM, and then later to DSD.

Thanks for the clarification Matt.

The first part was meant to mean converting an ISO file to a DSF file, if that is supported. Similar to ISO2DSD.

[Hilton]

Thanks.  That is what I thought but I worded my response sloppily.  All conversions involve a PCM intermediary.  However, playing an ISO (or a DSF) on the fly does not IF you use bitstreaming, otherwise the JRiver DSP engine will convert to PCM.

[/u]
Correction above....

[Awesome Donkey]

The first part was meant to mean converting an ISO file to a DSF file, if that is supported. Similar to ISO2DSD.

Goes through PCM.

[Fitzcaraldo215]

Goes through PCM.

Yes, in JRiver conversion.  But, no, if using iso2dsd to extract DSF from ISO.

[kr4]

[/u]Thanks.  That is what I thought but I worded my response sloppily.  All conversions involve a PCM intermediary.  However, playing an ISO (or a DSF) on the fly does not IF you use bitstreaming, otherwise the JRiver DSP engine will convert to PCM.
Correction above....

Of course but that is intentional.

[dtc]

Sounds like  playing ISO files does not convert to PCM but all other operations on ISO files convert to PCM.

In particular, MC should not be used for ISO to DSF file conversion if you want to maintain pure DSD.

[Fitzcaraldo215]

It's correct that the Oppo HDMI inputs do not accept DSD.  It's also true that some HDMI outputs on Oppo's can transport DSD (on the BDP-103 and BDP-105 only HDMI2 out can, on the BDP-103D and BDP-105D, both HDMI outputs can).

However, most, if not all, PC video cards are not able to output DSD via HDMI.  For example, my Denon AVP-A1HDCI pre-pro will accept DSD via its HDMI inputs, but I can't connect my PC to one of the HDMI inputs and send DSD to my pre-pro as the limitation is on the PC side.

On second thought and although I disagreed in another post, I think you may be right.  As I think  through my old experiences, I never actually did use a PC for bitstreamed DSD output via HDMI, just USB. The HDMI protocol itself does handle bitstreamed DSD, but apparently not from a Windows PC because the HDMI audio output via GPU or integrated graphics will not handle DSD.  Upon reflection, my experience with DSD over HDMI had been entirely sourced from an Oppo player playing an SACD disc, not from a PC.  Sorry for the confusion, but I do not want to misdirect any other readers of this thread.

So, I believe bitstreamed DSD from a PC is only possible via USB, as you indicated.  (There is also DoP, which I am guessing could theoretically be done over HDMI, although I am not certain.  That puts DSD in a PCM wrapper, but the receiving DAC has to support that and most do not support DoP, even if they do support bitstreamed DSD. DoP is primarily used with digital coax or USB.)

For the past 3+ years, my own listening to SACD rips has primarily been from DSF files converted on the fly to 88k or 176k PCM by JR and using Dirac Live software.  Initially, that was via HDMI into a prepro.  But, for 2+ years, it was via USB into an Exasound E28 DAC.  USB and the DAC also allow me to listen to bitstreamed DSD, which I do only occasionally.  Most all of my listening is in 5.1, occasionally in 7.1 from BD.  Incidentally, I am extremely happy with my sound.

[verfan]

I read throught the entire thread and don't see a link for the script to run. Can someone directing me to where I can download the file from?