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JRiver outputting 2.0 channel stereo as if it were 5.1 multichannel

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mojave:

--- Quote from: richard-ec2 on September 03, 2017, 08:45:33 am ---My problem is, I can't enhance the sound of my 2.0 channel stereo files using the surround effects on my A/V receiver (AnthemLogic-Music, Dolby Pro Logic and DTS Neo) because JRiver doesn't output these files as 2.0 channel files - it outputs them as 5.1 files, and therefore these effects are not available.

I already figured out why this is happening. In DSP, I have the Output Format checked and "Channels" set to "5.1 channels" with "No upmixing or downmixing". It has to be this way because this is the only way I can get JRiver to play back multichannel files with 5.0 or 4.1 or 4.0 channels.

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HDMI only accepts 2 channel, 6 channel (5.1) or 8 channel (7.1) containers. This is why Output Format set to "Source number of channels" won't work for HDMI. It isn't a JRiver limitation, but a limitation of HDMI.

Bitstreaming does take care of any format issues, but then you can't control the volume if using a JRiver app. You can install the Anthem MRX app and just switch to it for volume change if desired.

Hendrik:

--- Quote from: mojave on September 14, 2017, 11:26:48 am ---HDMI only accepts 2 channel, 6 channel (5.1) or 8 channel (7.1) containers. This is why Output Format set to "Source number of channels" won't work for HDMI. It isn't a JRiver limitation, but a limitation of HDMI.

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HDMI in general can also accept other speaker counts (specific hardware limitations not withstanding), however it typically only has one speaker configuration per speaker count, so you get 4.1 or 5.0, but not both, and which it is I couldn't tell you.
So basically, anything but those standard speaker setups are not recommended. Mono and 6.1 often also work fine, but anything between 2 and 6 is hit-or-miss.

MazingerZ:
Because HDMI can have issues with 4.0 and 5.0, can we have the following output option ?

Output Channels = "Source number of channels, except  if it's 4.0 or 5.0,  use a mapping"":

Source channels --- > Output channels
---------------------------------------------
stereo --> Output source number of channels, no change (i.e. JRiver outpus stereo to HDMI)
5.1   -->  Output source number of channels, no change (i.e. JRiver outputs 5.1 to HDMI)

5.0   -->  Use mapping: Output 5.1  (with empty .1)
4.0   ---> Use mapping  Output 5.1  (with empty  center and LFE channel)

That will solve many users' issues with the existing "Source number of channels" output when playing 4.0 and 5.0 sources.

wer:

--- Quote from: MazingerZ on September 19, 2020, 05:56:49 pm ---Because HDMI can have issues with 4.0 and 5.0, can we have the following output option ?

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The best thing to do is to set the number of output channels to your hardware's maximum (say, 7.1) and MC will fill all the empty channels with silence.  This works without any trouble, in all cases, as long as you don't emotionally object to your receiver showing 7.1 for a 5.1 channel source.

If you insist on having it the way you describe, you can already achieve that using ZoneSwitch, with a rule base on the Channels count.  No new feature is necessary.

MazingerZ:
As I mentioned,  I want the receiver to receive stereo if it's a stereo source.
Then I can let the receiver process the signal as stereo (for example to upmix  using Dolby Surround,  DTS Neural-X,  Auro 3D, etc.).

I will check out the ZoneSwitch functionality.

Thanks

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