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zontog

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Hi,

I use JRiver solely for music and have upgraded each time a new version has been released (have done so 4 or 5 times now). I love the program but cannot understand why it seems to be the only application I've ever encountered that doesn't respond to Windows' snap assist commands (e.g., hitting the WIN key + the left or right arrows will snap the current program to the left or right sides of the screen).

Am I missing an option somewhere? It's pretty frustrating and I'm not sure I'd upgrade again if this isn't something that's possible with JRiver.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 01:15:43 pm »

I have lots of programs that are not slaves to Window commands. I'd say you missed something somewhere. See ya!
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 02:02:25 pm »

Considering MC uses its own system for window drawing and whatnot, it not supporting Snap doesn't surprise me. Adobe Photoshop is another app which uses its own system for window drawing which doesn't work with Windows Snap either. On the other hand, Steam does work with Snap.

Your best chance for getting this is likely finding a SDK/API/code example(s) explaining how to add Snap support for an application, so JRiver can at least consider it.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2019, 05:56:04 pm »

zontog, I miss this feature as well, I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and it annoys me as well that MC doesn't support them.

Also, welcome to the forum.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 06:40:00 pm »

We took a look at this today. I don't know the outcome yet. If it's not too difficult, we'll add it.
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zontog

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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 08:59:42 pm »

I have lots of programs that are not slaves to Window commands. I'd say you missed something somewhere. See ya!

You're so cool  ::)
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zontog

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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 09:00:15 pm »

Considering MC uses its own system for window drawing and whatnot, it not supporting Snap doesn't surprise me. Adobe Photoshop is another app which uses its own system for window drawing which doesn't work with Windows Snap either. On the other hand, Steam does work with Snap.

Your best chance for getting this is likely finding a SDK/API/code example(s) explaining how to add Snap support for an application, so JRiver can at least consider it.

Interesting. Thanks for the suggestion!
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zontog

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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2019, 09:01:10 pm »

zontog, I miss this feature as well, I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and it annoys me as well that MC doesn't support them.

Also, welcome to the forum.

Thanks for the welcome!  :) Glad to be here.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2019, 09:02:40 pm »

We took a look at this today. I don't know the outcome yet. If it's not too difficult, we'll add it.

Thanks, Jim. I really appreciate you checking this out!
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2019, 05:14:31 am »

Although MC does not currently honour the Win+L, Win+R keyboard combos...

did you know that you can click and hold at the top of the program (not maximised) and drag the MC window to the left or the right, and when the mouse hits the right or left edge of the screen, MC will snap, just like Win+L or Win+R.

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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 10:00:40 am »

It also appears that Win + up maximizes, and Win + down restores or minimizes, so it appears that left and right might be the only 2 missing.  Although it is a bit weird...if you manually snap it in to the right or left (by dragging the title bar), then up and down also no longer function, and you can't restore by grabbing the title bar like you can a normal application.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 10:56:50 am »

You can just use displayfusion and get the same outcome. There's lots of alternative software that does the same thing and even better than window's snap feature.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2019, 11:25:25 am »

Although MC does not currently honour the Win+L, Win+R keyboard combos...

did you know that you can click and hold at the top of the program (not maximised) and drag the MC window to the left or the right, and when the mouse hits the right or left edge of the screen, MC will snap, just like Win+L or Win+R.

Regards,
marko.

Thanks for the note, Marko.

Yes, I did know that but it's a bit complicated by my multi-monitor set up so I effectively can't do that on one side of my monitor without it shooting off into the next one. Also, what's convenient about Windows snap is I can easily snap/size an app into a corner of my screen (e.g., WIN + left + up)--I've got quite a large monitor so I like having 4 quadrants open from time to time for work purposes.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2019, 11:26:37 am »

It also appears that Win + up maximizes, and Win + down restores or minimizes, so it appears that left and right might be the only 2 missing.  Although it is a bit weird...if you manually snap it in to the right or left (by dragging the title bar), then up and down also no longer function, and you can't restore by grabbing the title bar like you can a normal application.

Yeah, I noticed the Win + up and Win + down and those... intricacies  ;) as well.

Crossing my fingers for now!
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2019, 11:28:00 am »

You can just use displayfusion and get the same outcome. There's lots of alternative software that does the same thing and even better than window's snap feature.

I actually purchased DisplayFusion the other day for unrelated purposes. I'll play around there are see what I can come up with--although I really would love to use JRiver "natively" in this regard. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2019, 11:54:59 am »

I actually purchased DisplayFusion the other day for unrelated purposes. I'll play around there are see what I can come up with--although I really would love to use JRiver "natively" in this regard. Thanks for the suggestion!

David Zhang has good videos on how to best use displayfusion for productivity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvXtcB2mYPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIK-NuN3aY
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2019, 12:01:56 pm »

Standard window behavior on the various OS' supported by MC would be great.  It's horrific on macOS.

Likewise, menu control.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2019, 06:58:24 am »

David Zhang has good videos on how to best use displayfusion for productivity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvXtcB2mYPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIK-NuN3aY
These videos are pretty good.
I've been using DisplayFusion for years, and highly recommend it. Buying the Steam version when it goes on sale is best, as it is the cheapest version and has the least restrictive license.

I have an ultrawide monitor and typically split it so that there is a square window in the center (1440x1440) along with 2-4 windows on either side.



Alternatively, I will split it so that Media Center is playing a video at 1920px wide on one side, and a browser or other windows are on the other side of the display.
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Re: Windows Snap feature (or lack thereof) preventing me from upgrading
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2019, 07:34:19 am »

You can just use displayfusion and get the same outcome. There's lots of alternative software that does the same thing and even better than window's snap feature.

It is just that it doesn't play very nice with quite a few applications, so displayfusion is not the best alternative.
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