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[hoyt]

I just switched my internet over to fiber, which means I'm getting better speeds and I no longer have a 1TB/mo data cap with Comcast.  I subscribe to a GSuite account, which gets me cloud access in Google Drive (not Backup and Sync, but Drive File Stream).  On my MC server I use Free File Sync to move files from my NAS to my Google Drive.  I have my NAS set to shut off after midnight and turn back on at 9 AM.  I'd love to extend that and have it off more frequently.  The downside is that when I'm working from home, I have no music unless my NAS is on. 

With CloudPlay I do, but what I was thinking is that I want my own CloudPlay.  My library is extensive (>100k FLAC files), so I highly doubt Jim wants me to put them all into playlists and upload them   To MC these would just look like files on G:\, but I'd want to make sure I didn't update the tags within those files because I push from my NAS to the cloud, and never vice versa.  I'd also prefer the files on my NAS, but if the NAS is off, and MC can reach the files on G:\, then that would be good.

Is this what a stack is for?

Thanks!

[JimH]

It's not what stacks are for.

If you bump up against the Cloudplay limit, let us know.

[hoyt]

It's not what stacks are for.

If you bump up against the Cloudplay limit, let us know.

I see stacks in my library today with mp3s that I made at some point, but it isn't duplicated, so that was my thought here.  Can I do the same with files from "http*"?  I currently see cloudplay as a menu option, but I know those http* files are in my library, because I can show them on a playlist.  I'd like the sane organization as my entire library, just from a hierarchy of sources.

I'll roll a few more uploads this weekend now!  Thanks!

[hoyt]

Also, a huge chunk of my music library is live audience recordings.  Those wouldn't work great as single tracks for JRiver Radio.  Should they be tagged a particular way?

[JimH]

The Radio JRiver files beginning with http shouldn't appear in your library, except under Cloudplay playlists.  Early builds of MC may have left some by mistake.  And we may still need to make some changes.  In any case, they shouldn't be used in playlists you upload.

I don't have a good answer for the live recordings.  I can see the case for including them.  If they are tagged differently, other people could exclude them from playback.

As you can see, we're still learning.

[hoyt]

The Radio JRiver files beginning with http shouldn't appear in your library, except under Cloudplay playlists.  Early builds of MC may have left some by mistake.  And we may still need to make some changes.  In any case, they shouldn't be used in playlists you upload.

I don't have a good answer for the live recordings.  I can see the case for including them.  If they are tagged differently, other people could exclude them from playback.

As you can see, we're still learning.

I do see them in my library if I make a custom view (see screenshot) - but I like that, please don't take it away    I see my files that I uploaded and some random others - I guess once I play them they get added?  I can duplicate my views this way (Online vs NAS), but was hoping to magically combine them.

I separate the live recordings in my library based on saved path, I know that doesn't help you on a CloudPlay upload though, but tagging them all a certain way isn't ideal for me, but I'm willing if that's what you determine best.  I won't upload these for now, just because of that and it's approximately 4.5 TB.  When I backed these all up to my Google Drive, I would fill a 1TB hard drive and go to a location with faster uploads.  It took me a good three months of that to avoid my Comcast 1TB/ mo cap.  You'd be amazed at the upload speeds at some hotels.  At one hotel, I was getting a full 300 MB/sec.

I have two types of live recordings, released live recordings (ie - done by the band: Alison Krauss and Union Station - Live) and audience taping (ie - allowed by the band, taped by a fan - think Phish, Grateful Dead, Dave Matthews Band, etc).  The second set is less ideal to be thrown into a random mix, and my Smartlists separate the two.  My normal playlist only reads files with a path of /albums/.

I'm still learning as well, and with 700 MB up/down from my MC server, I'm willing to learn faster now!

[hoyt]

Just a quick follow-up to this.  I ran into the same things again with the upload that made me pause before, and I forgot about it (again).  I don't always have embedded coverart.  I do not want to add it because that would require all of these files to be re-uploaded to Google Drive.

So I just made a new library with G:\ as the import path - I selected a sub-folder so it wasn't the full few TB of data to play with.  JRiver and Google Drive File Stream seemed to play pretty well together.  When the import ran, it seemed to re-cache a bunch of files.  I saw a good bit of downloading occurring, I think it downloaded everything that I imported again, but just temporarily.  My drive fluctuated between 500 and 480 gig free, so it may have downloaded 20 gig at a time, then purged it.

I just hit play from a remote location on my Mac, with the G Drive Library loaded on my MC server.  I was able to stream music from Google Drive File Stream, through MC on Windows to my Mac remotely, while the NAS is off.  Thought that was pretty neat.

I'd love for Cloudplay to do this, but changing my library to meet the requirements is just too big of a hill for me to climb.  Not to mention, how would I keep track of what was uploaded and what wasn't, without just re-uploading everything?  I accomplish this with Free File Sync to Google Drive.  If a file hasn't changed, it doesn't re-upload it.  If a file is new, it uploads it.  Something similar with Cloudplay would be amazing.  Perhaps you could even check FLAC fingerprints without metadata tags so that those changes wouldn't trigger anything.  That would be killer.

I'm happy to keep trying different approaches to this, but the embed coverart requirement is really annoying (to me).  I play the music in MC and see coverart, so I think the uploading agent should too.