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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #100 on: December 09, 2020, 04:29:28 am »

I just upgrade from MC24 to MC27.

You can look under my name to see MANY good audiophile sampler I put yesterday.


I would like to see different nation music (Chinese/Japanese/Corean/Vietnam/Russian/African...)

You have very nice recordings. The quality is superb.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #101 on: December 09, 2020, 06:39:03 am »

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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #102 on: December 09, 2020, 06:44:08 am »

I can also see it and play it.  Nice music.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2020, 08:57:01 am »

Two things.

I may have missed it in the toolbars customization, but it would be nice if the link to "Cloudplay" could be available in the top or bottom toolbar as a shortcut.

Also, is it possible to separate albums and/or playlists in the "New Playlists" link on the Cloudplay page.  I like to see what new playlists are there but when someone uploads a bunch of albums, it cycles the real playlists out rapidly on the one page available.  Or is there a way to see the second page? 
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #104 on: December 11, 2020, 06:16:08 pm »

Two things.

I may have missed it in the toolbars customization, but it would be nice if the link to "Cloudplay" could be available in the top or bottom toolbar as a shortcut.
We stole your idea and added it to 27.0.43:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,127888.msg887305.html#msg887305
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Also, is it possible to separate albums and/or playlists in the "New Playlists" link on the Cloudplay page.  I like to see what new playlists are there but when someone uploads a bunch of albums, it cycles the real playlists out rapidly on the one page available.  Or is there a way to see the second page? 
I can understand the problem, but people shouldn't upload albums.  We're hoping to get well curated playlists.  The license we have doesn't allow albums, unless (arguably) they are multi-artist playlists.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #105 on: December 11, 2020, 08:03:19 pm »

Appreciate it on the toolbar.

Just to be clear, there is no way to get to a page 2 on "New Playlists"?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #106 on: December 16, 2020, 12:07:26 pm »

THANK YOU! All users who are sharing their AMAZING album collections and playlists.

The only TRUE lossless streaming, it's made my day, every day, especially during COVID.

Really grateful.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #107 on: December 16, 2020, 08:20:51 pm »

Ty, I have some very rare samplers in that list.
I bought them in audio show.

You have very nice recordings. The quality is superb.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #108 on: December 28, 2020, 02:05:28 am »

Is there an option to make my playlists private?

Thanks.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #109 on: December 28, 2020, 07:42:09 am »

Is there an option to make my playlists private?

Thanks.
No.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2021, 11:33:29 am »

Bump


Ok, like the muppet I am, I can't remember my cloudplay password, clicking on the forgotten password it asks me to put in my email address, which I do, clicking on ok fetches up the window below.

What do I do next?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2021, 09:27:54 am »

Help !


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Ok, like the muppet I am, I can't remember my cloudplay password, clicking on the forgotten password it asks me to put in my email address, which I do, clicking on ok fetches up the window below.

What do I do next?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2021, 11:14:10 am »

Bump


Ok, like the muppet I am, I can't remember my cloudplay password, clicking on the forgotten password it asks me to put in my email address, which I do, clicking on ok fetches up the window below.

What do I do next?

I just restarted the application and I was able to access cloudplay again.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2021, 11:29:09 am »

I’ve done that several times....to no avail
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2021, 02:55:49 pm »

I’ve done that several times....to no avail

I would start a completely new subject titled "Reset Cloudplay Password" and put your first post reference this there.

Maybe it's lost in the thread where they don't see it.  Starting your own separate thread is more likely to be noticed.

It would take an administrator to verify you.  Good luck!
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2021, 03:01:58 pm »

Thanks for your reply..
I could but this post was started by Jimh, so in theory he should see all replies to it.
I’ve had my fingers burnt in the past by starting a new post and some smart alec telling me off!

I’ll give it another couple of days.....

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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2021, 03:25:38 pm »

We'll check.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2021, 06:43:04 pm »

Thank you.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2021, 09:08:59 pm »

Today I managed to upload my first PlayList to Cloudplay. It is named "Australian Introspection". The problem is that although the upload worked and I received a confirmation email from JRiver, the PlayList has not appeared in the Cloudplay panel in MC27. My username is visible (dennismf) but it contains no playlists.

Is there a Moderation step that I must wait for?

I can see and play other PlayLists but I cannot see my own.

I have the same username and email address for my Interact and Cloudplay accounts. However the passwords are different. Is there some sort of account confusion?

Thanks and Regards,
DennisMF

PS - I added the URL provided in the confirmation email into my MC27 Streaming. This allows me to play my playlist under "Streaming" in MC27.

PS2: I have also found my new PlayList under "Playlists -> Cloudplay Playlists" in my MC27. The tags on these entries show URL's that reference RadioJRiver.

PS3: I have found that if I search for "Australian Introspection" in the MC27 Cloudplay panel, the search opens my (dennismf) user page but no Playlist is visible.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #119 on: January 19, 2021, 02:35:23 am »

Bump

We'll check.

Any news for me yet Jim?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #120 on: January 28, 2021, 02:47:05 am »

Today I managed to upload my first PlayList to Cloudplay. It is named "Australian Introspection". The problem is that although the upload worked and I received a confirmation email from JRiver, the PlayList has not appeared in the Cloudplay panel in MC27. My username is visible (dennismf) but it contains no playlists.

Is there a Moderation step that I must wait for?

I can see and play other PlayLists but I cannot see my own.

I have the same username and email address for my Interact and Cloudplay accounts. However the passwords are different. Is there some sort of account confusion?

Thanks and Regards,
DennisMF

PS - I added the URL provided in the confirmation email into my MC27 Streaming. This allows me to play my playlist under "Streaming" in MC27.

PS2: I have also found my new PlayList under "Playlists -> Cloudplay Playlists" in my MC27. The tags on these entries show URL's that reference RadioJRiver.

PS3: I have found that if I search for "Australian Introspection" in the MC27 Cloudplay panel, the search opens my (dennismf) user page but no Playlist is visible.

I can see it
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2021, 08:55:33 am »

We're about to do a newsletter with a minor Valentine's theme.  Can anyone suggest playlists you've uploaded or can upload that have a mushy love theme?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2021, 11:20:40 pm »

There is one on my account called You R Loved.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #123 on: February 10, 2021, 07:27:02 am »

It would be nice if there was an *obvious* way to share a CloudPlay playlist with other users or on this forum.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming -- Audio Analysis
« Reply #124 on: February 12, 2021, 07:16:07 am »

Hi Guys,
For a decade now I have just been using JRiver MC as a music player but am now investigating its amazing functionality. Today I discovered Cloudplay, marvellous!
When I go to upload a playlist I am advised that the files need audio analysis before uploading. My question is does this process alter the music files on my hard drive or is it just the cloud files that are altered?
Thanks.  ?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #125 on: February 12, 2021, 07:18:44 am »

It modifies the tag for volume leveling, but not the media itself.    https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Analyze_Audio
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #126 on: February 12, 2021, 07:32:23 am »

Thanks.
I am fastidious about my tags and would not wish fields that matter to me to be altered. Do you know what tags it might alter?
Thanks.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #127 on: February 12, 2021, 07:47:24 am »

Did you read the link?  Read also about volume leveling.  There is no harm done to your files.  It's required if you want volume leveling to work.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #128 on: February 12, 2021, 09:56:48 am »

Thanks.
I am fastidious about my tags and would not wish fields that matter to me to be altered. Do you know what tags it might alter?
Thanks.

It will add fields to your files for volume leveling only.  It will not effect any other data field  and does not alter the file itself like older leveling programs.  No worries here, whatsoever. 

I highly recommend it. 
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #129 on: February 16, 2021, 09:00:37 am »

Is it possible to delete a song from a playlist that I uploaded?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #130 on: February 18, 2021, 11:23:28 am »

Delete the song on your playlist and then re-upload the entire playlist to Cloudplay.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #131 on: February 19, 2021, 10:36:21 am »

Thanks Dawg
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #132 on: March 02, 2021, 02:41:29 pm »

JRiver team, what you have built with Cloudplay is really outstanding. Congratulations, and thank you everyone for uploading all for the superb music playlists.

I just set up a monthly contribution/subscription. I reckon a little pocketbook pinch will give me incentive to use it more as well :).

What is next in the development pipeline for Cloudplay, and for the interface?

Happy to throw in a few ideas:

1. User tagging - users could add keyword tags to playlists to aid in knowing what is in what
2. Add Cloudplay track links (not the actual files) to libraries - opens up links to personal tagging and smartlist usage for local libraries
3. Search box capabilities aka MC, with genre, tags, keyword, etc. Maybe this is already there and I haven't found it.
4. Call specific playlists via MCC or MCWS. For me, this would be awesome as I use a lot of custom shortcuts in my system.

Cheers, and thanks again!!!!
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #133 on: March 11, 2021, 04:32:11 am »

Where do I submit a support ticket related to Cloudplay and an older version of MC? I can't seem to be able to private message users and I don't see any zendesk or support email.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #134 on: March 11, 2021, 04:46:47 am »

Where do I submit a support ticket related to Cloudplay and an older version of MC? I can't seem to be able to private message users and I don't see any zendesk or support email.

Just post it here. But since you're using an older Media Center, your results with Cloudplay may vary as it's being continually improved. You might try MC27 if you haven't already to see if the issue(s) you're encountering still exist there. But it's also worth pointing out that development for older versions of Media Center has ended (right now only MC27 is actively developed), so if there's a bug in an older MC version, it won't be fixed unfortunately and the solution would be upgrading to MC27 (assuming, again, the issue(s) don't exist in MC27).
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2021, 06:08:34 pm »

I really dig Dawgincontrol's multichannel playlists.  But the buffering is a little long, resulting in no sound and once in a while the song advances but there is no sound.  Most likely the cause is my internet connection but is there any setting that would help with this?

Thanks!
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2021, 09:35:09 pm »

Tools > Options > Cloudplay.  Try setting a limit on the bandwidth.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #137 on: March 21, 2021, 10:29:17 am »

Thanks - tried that and it didn't help much.  I did increase the buffering to the max, and that helped a lot.  Songs hardly ever buffer now. 

Hats off to Dawgincontrol for some excellent sounding multichannel playlists!
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #138 on: March 22, 2021, 05:28:54 pm »

Hi,  Posting here as the link to post questions is in the MC26 section

Have a question on Cloudplay's expected behaviour with MC in a Server - Client setup

Server: MC 26.0.87 (Linux - Debian - Headless) - just realised this may be the issue.  Will upgrade over the weekend
Client: MC 27.0.66 (Windows 10)

From the client
  • Cannot play Cloudplay tracks when connected to the server's Library.  Get error "The file could not be opened for read access (error 3).
     Check permissions, ownership and that the file is not in use by another program"
  • Can play Cloudplay tracks when the Main library is loaded

Is this the expected behavior?

thanks,

Steve
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2021, 12:35:16 pm »

Thanks - tried that and it didn't help much.  I did increase the buffering to the max, and that helped a lot.  Songs hardly ever buffer now. 

Hats off to Dawgincontrol for some excellent sounding multichannel playlists!

Thanks phleeb
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2021, 05:37:38 pm »

Just I'd like to comment that today I realized Cloudplay is finally working in my setup . I've been testing these for quite a while with no luck until today. It is not that I try every day or even every week, but from time to time I tried, and today it worked !!!    very happy.

For reference I use a Marantz NA6005 as streamer and JRiver 27.0.66 (64bits) on Win 10

Only thru DLNA


Many thanks for this great product     ;D ;D ;D
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #141 on: March 30, 2021, 06:36:18 pm »

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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #142 on: March 30, 2021, 07:10:35 pm »

Would really like to see some extra features added to Cloudplay.

For example I would love the ability to create a playlist on the fly by inputting a Genre or Artist and required number of songs and Cloudplay returns you the requested playlist.

Any chance of this?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #143 on: March 30, 2021, 09:25:02 pm »

You can use Play Doctor with Cloudplay. 
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #144 on: March 30, 2021, 10:18:37 pm »

Cloudplay isn't selective enough, the lowest restriction is Some Variety.

I chose Eric Church as Artist and in the resulting list I get Comedy from Morecambe & Wise, Piano Concerto from Camille Saint-Saens and Christmas songs plus other tracks that I wouldn't want. And I already had the filter set to not include Genre = Christmas.

Also I have Cloudplay set to 100% and it is still picking up tracks from my Library

 
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2021, 11:28:55 pm »

I just noticed recently that the upload rate has substantially improved. Before, my upload speed was only 200 KBPS even though I have 10 MBPS upload capacity.

Now it's blazing fast at around 10 MBPS. Has Amazon removed the throttling?
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2021, 11:55:01 pm »

I have Tidal subscription and I use Tidal when commuting to work because based on the reviews of the Android version of JRiver, it leaves a lot to be desired.

However, when it comes to the PC version, I have observed that my tracks on JRiver (and those of others) have superior fidelity compared to the ones on Tidal even to the Master ones. I am using the JRiver app to play my tracks and I am using the Tidal app to play tracks on it.

It seems that the JRiver app is superior to Tidal in terms of playback and in terms of contents. I don't know what Tidal calls Master but my tracks on JRiver are mostly hi-res so I can only surmise that Tidal Masters are low bitrate tracks.

It's easier to search songs on Tidal compared to going to each of my playlists on JRiver to find where the song is, so I use Tidal most of the time out of convenience. But when I really want to relish the entity of the song, I always make sure to listen to it on JRiver. There doesn't seem to be a difference between the locally stored tracks and the Cloudplay stored tracks, as long as you have a good connection. It seems that JRiver doesn't alter or compress my songs that are stored on Cloudplay.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #147 on: October 29, 2021, 09:46:28 am »

Would really like to see some extra features added to Cloudplay.

For example I would love the ability to create a playlist on the fly by inputting a Genre or Artist and required number of songs and Cloudplay returns you the requested playlist.

Any chance of this?


Create a Smartlist and save the result as a playlist.

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Smartlists
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #148 on: December 01, 2021, 08:27:31 pm »

I have been uploading playlists to Cloudplay. I have been meaning to for quite some time, but some quick tagging fixes changed into multiple hard drive failures. All is fixed now and overall Coudplay has been trouble free. It has come a long way since the start.
Some notes about the process:

If I choose a playlist then 'upload to cloud' the dialog pops up in the action window and I can choose upload or cancel. Say I choose not to upload or i can't because there is mp3 in the playlist, so I then choose another playlist to upload, the files change but the name doesn't. When choosing a new playlist to upload the list and files should be updated. I uploaded numerous playlists with the wrong name when moving to another playlist to upload while I removed mp3's.

When changes are made to a playlist then it is re-uploaded, just the changes are uploaded instead of everything. This is great.

When a playlist is finished uploading, the current tab in MC changes to Cloudplay. I would would prefer this to happen in a new tab or not at all.

Once a playlist is uploaded, it then appears in the "Cloudplay Playlists" playlist group. This makes sense, but all of the playlists are empty and do essentially nothing. Are they supposed to be populated?

Uploading many playlists is a bit tedious to do one at a time even with a decent internet connection. It would be nice to have the ability to upload more than one at a time. One way could be to allow selecting multiple playlists, another could be the ability to mark playlists as Cloudplay then 'sync all' to upload new ones and any changes that have been made since last sync. Just ideas, I wouldn't want to complicate things but I think it would help with bulk uploads.
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Re: JRiver Cloudplay -- Lossless Streaming
« Reply #149 on: December 02, 2021, 06:08:54 am »

Once a playlist is uploaded, it then appears in the "Cloudplay Playlists" playlist group. This makes sense, but all of the playlists are empty and do essentially nothing. Are they supposed to be populated?
I can confirm the problem.  We'll check.
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