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[Hendrik]

Yeah, if you get the drawer working there you could have the 3 line hamburger menu (to access the "home" drawer) and the back button at the top left. Should be enough space there to do it and still have space for the cursed ratings.

Thats not possible. Its either hamburger or back, the Android toolbar component doesn't allow you both. Playing Now doesn't currently use a standard toolbar, which is already some trouble, so when I move it over to the standard toolbar, I would have to figure out some new way to get the ratings up there.

Old JRemote always showed the hamburger, and never the back arrow, so you had to rely on the devices back arrow, but personally I wasn't a fan of that. And Google decided to drop software buttons in Android 10 and rely on awful gestures instead, not sure that'll stick, since its really terrible, but for now I rather keep the actual back arrow.

Casting button would make sense next to the zone button in that regard. There should still be ample space between two buttons on the left and the player controls (with a little space between the two buttons, e.g. the amount of spacing used for player controls).

The Android ChomeCast button belongs into the toolbar, and only there does the built-in widget actually work, because it shows/hides itself based on availability of cast devices, colors itself, and whatnot, a lot of magic I don't feel like re-creating just to put it somewhere else.

The main reason ChromeCast never worked perfectly in older app versions (both Gizmo and JRemote) is that I tried to do too much stuff manually, instead of just relying on built-in functionality. Cast changes too much, and pulling in an updated cast library is much easier then trying to figure out how I have to change the code.

[Awesome Donkey]

Thats not possible. Its either hamburger or back, the Android toolbar component doesn't allow you both. Playing Now doesn't currently use a standard toolbar, which is already some trouble, so when I move it over to the standard toolbar, I would have to figure out some new way to get the ratings up there.

Hamburger would be my preference then, since Android devices already have either the hardware or on-screen back buttons.

The Android ChomeCast button belongs into the toolbar, and only there does the built-in widget actually work, because it shows/hides itself based on availability of cast devices, colors itself, and whatnot, a lot of magic I don't feel like re-creating just to put it somewhere else.

Ooof, sounds like some black magic is needed. Disregard then, haha.

[Hendrik]

Hamburger would be my preference then, since Android devices already have either the hardware or on-screen back buttons.

Just wait until Android 10 :p
Presumably you can still turn the software back buttons back on, but by default all you get is awful gestures.

[Awesome Donkey]

Yeah, you can enable the 3 button navigation in Android 10. The idea or using gestures as a default in the OS is something I'm not looking forward to, but thankfully you can re-enable them (which I will).

[DJLegba]

Just wait until Android 10 :p
Presumably you can still turn the software back buttons back on, but by default all you get is awful gestures.

I have Android 10 and the software back button does the same thing as the X in JRemote2. I do like the swipe up feature to get the list of open apps. Much easier than using the button for that.

[Awesome Donkey]

Definitely not a fan of default gestures in Android 10.

If JRemote2 had a "home" screen, would long pressing on a back button to go to it work? Going by what you said, I doubt it could open the drawer that way or even allow long pressing buttons to work in the toolbar at all. So disregard those ideas too.

Yeah, I can see how it can be frustrating, can't exactly have your cake and eat it too, huh?

[Philippe Mtl]

2.0.6 - Metadata

thanks for the Metadata screen. Would it be possible to display characters instead of what seems to be Unicode values in Filename and Image file location?

[lepa]

How about using gestures for volume in addition to HW keys. E.g swipe up on top of cover image to increase volume and down to decrease.

[Hendrik]

2.0.6 - Metadata

thanks for the Metadata screen. Would it be possible to display characters instead of what seems to be Unicode values in Filename and Image file location?

These are the actual values as reported by MC (and as MC gets them), nothing is being displayed wrongly. URLs cannot contain spaces, so your minimserver replaces spaces with *20.

[JimH]

For the X in Playing Now, I don't really care if its an X or a back arrow, it ultimately does the same thing. The reason its currently an X is because Playing Now is a seperate "action", a new screen which pops-up over the navigation screen, which you close again (which is also why the Drawer is not accessible there), instead of being a different screen you simply navigate to. But I've been thinking about changing that, primarily so that I can get the drawer working in there.

If you come from a Windows background X means close. 

[rec head]

I would want to keep the top toolbar, as the top left close/back button is pretty standard android UX. I wonder how it would look if I ban the rating to up there?

In fact, it looks decent to me:


Thoughts?

I think that looks pretty good

[Hendrik]

If you come from a Windows background X means close.

Indeed, and thats the difference I was trying to illustrate, because right now Playing Now is like a new window, you close it and get back to whats underneath. But it being its own window has certain problems, like for example you can't access the nav drawer from there. And of course in an Android world where everything is fullscreen, the difference of opening a new window or changing the content of the previous one is lost anyhow.

So I've been working on integrating Playing Now into the "main" window instead, which means the nav drawer will work, and the icon will automatically turn into a back arrow instead. It won't change how you interact with JRemote, but it should give a more consistent behavior. Now I just need to do the same for the Metadata view.

The only thing that'll remain a "popup window" is the fullscreen video player, since that requires some special stuff to be proper fullscreen.

[RoderickGI]

But I've been thinking about changing that, primarily so that I can get the drawer working in there.

I would like the drawer to be accessible in Playing Now. That could give access to more functions, settings, searching etc. while something is playing.

X does mean close to Windows users, and the current X does close the Playing Now screen. That is just a user learning curve. But I often use the Android back button to exit Playing Now anyway, in JRemote2 and other players, so changing the X to a <- make sense.

While the idea of a Home screen compared to the drawer acting as Home has some appeal, other players use the same concept. In Panel, a Home screen is necessary, because it is a browser application. In Android, not so much.

I much prefer the centre aligned Title and Artist - Album, wherever you place it. But please keep the scrolling, which covers the issue of long classical track names. If necessary, the Shuffle and Repeat buttons cold become translucent or fade to near invisible, but sit on top of long names and remain active.

BubbleUPnP must have built their own Chromecast icon then, as I noticed it puts the icon in multiple places on screen and in a slide-out drawer. I can understand why you want to use the standard functions and top right location though.

Basically though, none of the ideas are horrible, yet, so work out the JRiver "Look and Feel", and go with it.

EDIT: You posted similar thoughts while I was playing around and typing Hendrik. All sounds good.

[Awesome Donkey]

Yep, agree with the center aligned title/artist/album with marquee of long names, it'd just look right.

[Hendrik]

I've published a new version of JRemote2 just now, changes below.

Its primarily focused on Playing Now, introducing the new layout we've been talking about here, as well as changing  the internals of how Playing Now integrates with the app. These are pretty big internal changes, so please report any breakage, which is also why I wanted to get it out, so I can fix these problems quickly while working on the next features.

I didn't actually have to work on stability problems this time around, since 2.0.6 didn't really crash (except that one time someone entered a IPv6 address in a wrong format and the URL parser got excited, which I'm now catching instead of crashing the app - on a related note, unless you have a Proxy, MC itself doesn't support IPv6 yet).

PS:
The text on Playing Now doesn't support scrolling right now, I'll look into bringing that back in the next version.

JRemote 2.0.7 (12/06/2019)

1. Fixed: Using the refresh button in library views would result in icons to be shrinking.
2. Changed: Internal changes to how the Playing Now view is being handled, please report any problems.
3. Changed: Enabled access to the navigation drawer from Playing Now.
4. Changed: Updated the navigation drawer for better support for Android 10.
5. Changed: The Playing Now layout has been updated according to forum feedback.
6. Changed: The name of the current server is shown in the Zone dialog and next to the zone name in Playing Now.

[Awesome Donkey]

Working perfectly for me thus far. Love, love, LOVE how Now Playing is structured.

[Awesome Donkey]

Okay, found a UI issue. Steps to reproduce...

1) Find an album where you have to scroll down through the list. I scrolled down to the very bottom then back up to where you're basically overlapping the overlay of the back arrow and album name with the number of tracks and the total time of the album and the bitrate and the file type like this...



2) Go to Playing Now by pressing on the player bar on the bottom.

3) In Playing Now press the back arrow and it should show this at the top with the overlapping arrow on the album info.

[RoderickGI]

Alas, it hasn't made its way to Australia yet, and it's been all of 25 minutes! Must be on a slow connection! 
It's late here, so tomorrow. 

[Hendrik]

Okay, found a UI issue. Steps to reproduce...

Fixed for the next one, thanks! The toolbar is not too happy being messed with this much, so I have to be careful.

[OfotViking]

I usually play whole albums. When browsing (smart)playlists, I'd like to group tracks into albums.
Like the "List style" > "Album Thumbnails" in main app.

[Philippe Mtl]

2.0.7 Playing Now

This is impressive. Great that we see server:zone info on the low left corner, plus the ability to switch between players. Sorry I couldn't find any bug

[DJLegba]

Great work! I guess this update didn't make any changes to the metadata display. Track length is in seconds (eg 403.266666999999734).

There is no marquee effect on my Android 10 device when the track and/or album name are too long to fit on the screen.

[Awesome Donkey]

There is no marquee effect on my Android 10 device when the track and/or album name are too long to fit on the screen.

Yep, Hendrik already said in his release post above it was known and hopefully can be added back in the next version.

PS:
The text on Playing Now doesn't support scrolling right now, I'll look into bringing that back in the next version.

[DJLegba]

Yep, Hendrik already said in his release post above it was known and hopefully can be added back in the next version.

Sorry, I did read Hendrik's post, but should have read it again before posting mine. I was excited by the combination of a new album and a new release of JRemote2.

[JimH]

2.0.7 Playing Now

This is impressive. Great that we see server:zone info on the low left corner, plus the ability to switch between players. Sorry I couldn't find any bug

How about using something like this?

NUC -> Player

[JimH]

That comment was for Hendrik.

[HTPC4ME]

Really liking the playing now in 2.7
nice work Hendrick!

found a glitch or 2 perhaps (have to forgive me w/ my old s7..perhaps issues are only w/me)
1. kill jremote/open jremote/choose server/ choose video/choose recently imported/chose media sub/movie/choose genre/ (long press to choose all of a genre, OR drill in deeper and choose a single file) 

1. the video plays/landscape or portrait however the only CNTRLS are a play button/stop button, title/type properties on top banner. (see pic1)

2.  hit the X/top left while playing the video stops and brings you back to left side drawer/audio.. it doesnt bring you back to where you were before pressing play, or when pressing the back arrow/i believe this was touched on/i forgot.. and seems confusing to me... if i close vid window/display i guess i'd think it would bring me back a screen, not back to the start/default/audio.

3. AFTER following all above steps/swipe the drawer closed/click on the last playing now item/bottom playing now bar...and wa la i have the Full playing now CNTRLS...playing now on top/ratings/then video playing/then video name...etc... (see pic2..Note the 1sec difference/ :10/:11)

love the meta data field/ on my device none seem to be editable yet. but all come up nice.

[Hendrik]

1. the video plays/landscape or portrait however the only CNTRLS are a play button/stop button, title/type properties on top banner. (see pic1)

3. AFTER following all above steps/swipe the drawer closed/click on the last playing now item/bottom playing now bar...and wa la i have the Full playing now CNTRLS...playing now on top/ratings/then video playing/then video name...etc... (see pic2..Note the 1sec difference/ :10/:11)

The difference between those two is that the first is the fullscreen video player, with only essential controls (which also hide), and the second is just the normal Playing Now screen, with cover art replaced with video. You can go back to the fullscreen player by clicking the video in Playing Now.

The difference would be far more obvious in Landscape mode, because the video in playing now is much smaller there.

2.  hit the X/top left while playing the video stops and brings you back to left side drawer/audio.. it doesnt bring you back to where you were before pressing play, or when pressing the back arrow/i believe this was touched on/i forgot.. and seems confusing to me... if i close vid window/display i guess i'd think it would bring me back a screen, not back to the start/default/audio.

Thats not supposed to happen, you are supposed to stay on the view you were on before. I'll try it later and see if it also happens here.

Edit:
Just tried and it works fine for me. Video keeps playing in the background, like its supposed to, and I get back to the file list where I started playing from.

[Peter_T]

Just installed this and wow it's SO much faster on my Samsung S9 than the old JRemote.  Well done!

Any intentions of adding cache management?  I'd love to queue up some tunes for my commute and not have to use my data package...

- P

[Ekpen]

Playing Live at the Bijou , on the cell phone, cover arts displayed fine, but zone to Sony Bravia tv, cover art was missing.
Can we have a text that says "zones"  with the icon ?
This will be helpful to a novice.
Thanks.
George.

[HTPC4ME]

TY Hendrick, for explanation and lookin into!

[InsaneRC]

Really liking the new layout and speed.

[vandal99]

I have installed jremote2 on my Samsung S8 - seems to be working with some hard drives and not others. Any idea why it works from some hard drives on my system and not others. I have no problems playing these files in mc25 itself. I have checked the share access and they are all the same across the drives.

When i click to play a song the 'download??' icon shows for awhile, but then nothing... no metadata is shown, song names and times etc. are all shown, just no audio output.

Any thoughts?
Rob

[Logic800]

Finding my way with JRemote2 but can't get extra large album art to work, it will load a few images but no more.  All other sizes are fine.  My phone and tablet both have the same issue, each with 3Gb of RAM, if that is a limiting issue.  Otherwise a great app, thanks.

[HTPC4ME]

feature request:
meta data tick boxes sync'd w/ server standard view tick boxes (same as jriver standard view, hear a song you like, click on Genre/s - Artist/s, allowing you to tick those available/most used... prevents guessing/memory failure/misspellings as well...keeping library tags clean/less double work/maintenance)

tonight was using original jremote, while watching a video on htpc, and a video came on i wanted to tag... genres, when clickin metadata it allows to edit Genres, which had a tag of Rock, i wanted to add others, but couldn't remember how i named those genre tags....have to wander to server/workstation - standardview, or close theaterview on htpc/standard view to verify, then add/edit.

offtopic but on topic... has jriver implemented tickboxes for tagging in theaterview, as in standard view since version 21? thnx

[hoyt]

I played with JRemote2 today paired via Bluetooth to my Google Home.  I've been using it for a few weeks, but today I had to turn off battery optimization.  When it was left at default (on), it would play the song that I clicked play on before my screen turned off.  Then it started playing the next track and would get 32 seconds into that second track before stopping.

I found this odd because I did exactly this before Thanksgiving (paired to my Google Home while I did food prep).  It played for at least an hour without a problem.

[Jbtx06]

Overall I am really impressed with the new Jremote2 app.

Couple of things I have come across so far using it.
1. The star rating doesnt seem to work, so I am using the old jremote app for this. Besides rating my songs, I also use this to help remove duplicates from my library.

2. The screen stay on doesnt seem to be working.

3. The play now screen seems to be very cluttered compared to the original jremote, but I can adjust to the new layout.

4. OVERALL, I am very happy with the new and improved Jremote2 app. Thank you

[HTPC4ME]

was using jremote2 this am for chores...possible bugs (again my old device)

The difference between those two is that the first is the fullscreen video player, with only essential controls (which also hide), and the second is just the normal Playing Now screen, with cover art replaced with video. You can go back to the fullscreen player by clicking the video in Playing Now.

The difference would be far more obvious in Landscape mode, because the video in playing now is much smaller there.

when playing video's in the playing now screen/all cntrls... i was not able to seek..fwd/rwd, once, going bck to display mode/click the video window... i was able to seek.
too add/1st time i noticed this, but once in display mode "essential cntrls" there is no nxt track/prev track buttons.. when one is loading more then one track/a list/genre etc if in display mode you cannot go to nxt/prev in playing nows playlist, so i had to go back to playing now to hit the button to goto the nxt track (adding those 2 essentials for me/maybe others) would be nice/behoove.

Thanx

[ti_dust]

My comments are for Jremote1/2 for Android.

Things definitely run better than before.

My use case is very simple - it acts as a remote only with no local playback on my phone.

(1) UI for Now Playing looks great to me, I'm pretty easy, though.  LOVE the seek bar at the bottom.  Can't tell you how many times with JRemote1 that I went to seek and instead ended up changing a rating.  I understand that an option to remove the ratings from the UI may be in the works, and I would be all for it.

(2) On the Playing Now *list*, not the main Playing Now screen with artwork - it doesn't follow playback.  So, if I get out of the Playing Now screen for whatever reason, then go back to it by hitting the bar at the bottom, the Playing Now list goes to the beginning, but does not show the currently playing item like I would expect to see.  I thought JRemote1 did this, but maybe I'm wrong?  Either way, I would like it to follow playback.

(3) On the metadata page, either group the most common items at the top (artist/album/name/track#/genre/year/etc.) or allow the end user to reorder the items.  This would make it MUCH more useful for me.  For example, seeing a date of "43546" doesn't do me any good.  I want the most relevant items at the top, however that could be done.

Thank you!  I haven't had any issues or crashes after using for many hours now.

Edit: Just noticed when browsing artists, the "default view mode", where you choose between grid and list, doesn't stick globally.  It seems to remember the setting per sub-item once changed, and this differs from JRemote1 where the default view mode was applied globally to all browser items (and sub-items).  I'm not sure if this is intentional, but I prefer that setting to be global and not per-item.  Hopefully that made some sense.  LOL

[dafloydman]

Volume levelling … Yippee .. finally won't have to use  bubble.
love it guys

[MagerClab]

It just works. 

Thank you!

[hoyt]

I noticed something today that isn't quite right. 

I started playback on my server, via my Mac using Panel.  I'm playing an http stream via a Car Radio button to a DAC connected to my server.  I can log onto RDP and see playback has started in zone: Player, and it shows the name of the stream and the current playback time.  I open JR2, connect to the proper server, set my zone in JR2 to Player, I then go to the Playing Now page, but it's still showing the coverart, title, artist, etc, of the item that I previously played in JR2 last week.  The timing of the track however, is showing based on the http stream.  It shows 29:15 as the length - the item on the left and that keeps increasing. And -00:05 as the position - the item on the right.  That negative number starts at 7, then resets when it reaches 3 or 4, I assume this is in line with the cacheing of the stream. If I change the volume though, it does affect the output. 

My stream has no coverart, but it does have a name.  I think the coverart should reset and the name, title, etc should show the name of the stream.

[mirdle]

Love the new app so far on my android.  Any chance we will ever see an option to download a song for offline play?

[vandal99]

I have installed jremote2 on my Samsung S8 - seems to be working with some hard drives and not others. Any idea why it works from some hard drives on my system and not others. I have no problems playing these files in mc25 itself. I have checked the share access and they are all the same across the drives.

When i click to play a song the 'download??' icon shows for awhile, but then nothing... no metadata is shown, song names and times etc. are all shown, just no audio output.

Any thoughts?
Rob

Ok, been playing with this problem only i've got - it doesn't seem to be a drive problem as i first thought. I can play certain flac files on one drive that i didnt think was able to play any. If i move the playable flac files to a folder with files that don't play, then the program doesn't seem to recognize them. Put them back where they were, program will play them ok again. If i move files that won't play into the folder with playable flacs, they still won't play...the playable flacs still play ok. Is there a debug mode i can run? Anything, anyone?? Help...

[nataru]

Please add an option to change the screen to landscape when watching videos in full screen.

[RoderickGI]

Please add an option to change the screen to landscape when watching videos in full screen.

Turn your phone sideways to landscape mode. JRemote2 will follow the phone orientation. If the movie doesn't maximise on the screen, tap it.

[nataru]

Turn your phone sideways to landscape mode. JRemote2 will follow the phone orientation. If the movie doesn't maximise on the screen, tap it.

I don't have auto-rotate enabled. Others video players  (like Samsung videos and YouTube) it either automatically goes into landscape when maximizing the video, or there's an option for changing the orientation.

[Hendrik]

I don't have auto-rotate enabled. Others video players  (like Samsung videos and YouTube) it either automatically goes into landscape when maximizing the video, or there's an option for changing the orientation.

Old JRemote used to force landscape for video, but people wanted the option to have it rotate with the phone (presumably when they have videos taken with a phone in the first place), so thats what it does now.

[nataru]

Old JRemote used to force landscape for video, but people wanted the option to have it rotate with the phone (presumably when they have videos taken with a phone in the first place), so thats what it does now.

I guess that's why I'm having trouble getting used to jremote2. I don't want to enable auto-rotate on my phone just for one app.

Samsung's "video" app has an option at the right bottom corner where you can change the orentation. Would be nice if jrmote2 implements something similar.

[skarsol]

So how do you get it to actually send a WoL? The MAC is configured in the settings, but not seeing the packets. Gizmo still works fine for waking the server.