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dartinbout

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No right rear\back channel
« on: July 21, 2020, 04:26:59 pm »

Hi,
For about a year, I've lost most of the sound from this channel. It sounds very muted compared to the left. I have many native 5.1 FLAC, WAV and DSF\DSD files. I ignored it and I was satisfied  with the 3.1. With the quarantine, I've been upgrading. I swapped out my soundcard, RCA cables, my amplifier, got a preamp, changed the speaker cables. Nothing changed the quality of the sound of that channel. I even swapped left and right signals. Still only the left played. Finally I tried Foobar2000 with the same files and equipment. Guess what, my long lost right side channel returned! What is going on? I have scraped the forums with a variety keywords and found nothing pertinent. Before I spend money on the upgrade, I'd like to get this fixed.

Current setup (but I had different sound cards and AV receivers in the recent past) Asus Strix ii, Emotiva XMC-1, dual Sunfire Cinema Grand amplifiers, Matched Paradigm Studio V2 5.1 with sub)
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2020, 05:24:35 pm »

It's probably a settings problem somewhere.  Try turning off all DSP.

Try Direct Sound.
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2020, 07:22:34 pm »

Direct sound worked. Why can't I use asio? It worked before in JRiver and still works in foobar. To me it is the preferred driver over the others. Ideas?
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2020, 09:46:26 pm »

Probably because the ASIO driver doesn't work correctly.

Try the 32 bit version of MC.

Where did  you get the ASIO driver?
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2020, 01:08:48 am »

I've used the official ASUS and UNi Xonar drivers. Both work in FOOBar. Neither work in the current JRiver for the rt.rear side channel. I believe I need the 64 bit for the multi thread conversion of 5.1 DSD to PCM. It already buffers like crazy.
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2020, 03:52:44 am »

I've used the official ASUS and UNi Xonar drivers. Both work in FOOBar. Neither work in the current JRiver for the rt.rear side channel. I believe I need the 64 bit for the multi thread conversion of 5.1 DSD to PCM. It already buffers like crazy.

If it works in foobar2000, chances are indeed Jim is right and the ASIO drivers are 32-bit only. If that's the case, there's no way around that and no way to force it in the 64-bit version, it won't work unless there's 64-bit drivers.
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2020, 12:34:12 am »

I'd like to reopen this issue. These drivers are 64 bit and do work correctly in Foobar. I tried installing the 32 bit version MC 26 and still got no right rear\side channel. The issue still lies within JRiver interpretation of the C-Media ASIO. The interesting thing is that it wasn't always this way. I've had 5.1\7.1 audio systems, using JRiver going back over a decade. It's only within the last year or so the problem developed. I'm moving on a to a new card and new computer in the coming weeks. It will still be a C-Media based and expect to have new problems to tackle, but I will come back to this. I just don't like any of the alternatives to JRiver. Roon is like a glorified IPOD and most of the others are so focused on streaming as to be useless to me with 15Tb collections of lossless files and thousands of native 5.1 formats. I know this might be considered a niche issue but I would like a solution.
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2020, 07:32:16 am »

Calibrate your levels using Tools > Advanced Tools > Audio Calibration.  Play volume calibration at however many channels you have.  Use DSP Studio > Room Correction to dial in the levels.

If you think the problem only happens with newer copies of MC, you could also go back and install all the old builds to figure out when it started.

Please let us know what you find.  Thanks.
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Re: No right rear\back channel
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2021, 04:43:41 pm »

Hi JRiver,

I solved my problem with rt rear channel silence only working on Foobar2000. My JRiver 26 started having confusing Asio playback.  I have 4 active DAC's and 6 more installed. My Fostex USB HPABFL and my custom Auzentech sound card both started playing music when the Fostex USB audio output was selected.  None of the normal solutions worked. Re-installed the Fostex Asio and re-installed JRiver 26 with no resolution. I was still using Foobar for all my 5.1 music. In frustration over the Fostex issue, I ripped out all of the JRiver installation, including all the registry entries. I re-installed MC 27, the Fostex Asio and the Auzentech Asio. Bingo! Discrete 5.1 DSD playback from the Fostex and PCM out the Auzentech sound card! AAAAAND (dromroll) fully 5.1 playback from all my multichannel music files (DSD, DFF, Flac, Wav, etc!)
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