Topic: JRiver 25 and asus essence (Read 3498 times)

csaszart · « **on:** September 20, 2021, 06:41:44 am »

Hi Forum Members!
l use jriver 25 and asus essence lll.
unfortunately when i switch to dsd the my volume control is lost
the minimum level is also very loud.
can someone help me with this?
Thank you ..

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2021, 06:53:06 am »

Set MC's volume to "Internal". If that doesn't work, you can tell MC to convert to PCM.

dtc · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2021, 04:00:13 pm »

To play as DSD, DSD has to be sent to the DAC exactly as it is. MC cannot modify the stream to change its volume or you will destroy the DSD stream. That is why it has to be bitstreamed. You have to control the volume after it is converted to analog, either in the DAC or in preamp/amp.

csaszart · « **Reply #3 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:01:07 am »

this is true, but how do I achieve this result,because l would like to hear real DSD..

dtc · « **Reply #4 on:** September 21, 2021, 06:03:21 am »

To hear DSD, you just bitstream the data and adjust the volume with your DAC or preamp/amp. You cannot adjust it with MC. The MC volume should be set to 100% when playing DSD.

csaszart · « **Reply #5 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:03:27 am »

yes, but when l switch to dsd, the minimum volume level is very loud.
it does not start from zero,but about from 25-30 %

dtc · « **Reply #6 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:07:22 am »

If you adjust the volume on your amp/preamp to zero, there should be no sound. If there is that is a function of the amp/preamp, not of MC. What are you using for volume control?

csaszart · « **Reply #7 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:15:33 am »

l use my asus volume control...this volume problem only occurs when using DSD..

dtc · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:25:28 am »

You need a volume control on your DAC or you amp/preamp. What is your DAC? What is your amp/preamp? If your are doing volume control on your ASUS PC, then you are not doing native DSD, unless your Asus PC has a DSD Dac in it. Please describe your setup.

csaszart · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2021, 10:35:36 am »

unfortunately l am a beginner, maybe this will help you understand

what my problem is..

"it only requires two steps to enable DSD playback from Essence III"

https://www.asus.com/news/VyFfHIdglrOOH7uC/

dtc · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:18:30 am »

The volume control on the Asus should control the volume. Do you have the VR Bypass set to off? Headphones or line out to amp?

csaszart · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:24:32 am »

Headphones

csaszart · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:29:05 am »

what is VR bypass? where can l found it?

dtc · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:37:33 am »

According to the manual, it is a switch on the back of the Asus that bypasses volume control.

csaszart · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2021, 11:43:46 am »

yes, it is set off

dtc · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:04:22 pm »

If you are getting sound with the volume control all the way off, I would contact Asus or your dealer for some help.

csaszart · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:11:47 pm »

okay,thanks !

csaszart · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:19:11 pm »

here is the asus answer...
"If there is no problem with audio playback with other programs, it is likely that the unit is not at fault. Application compatibility is always the responsibility of the application developer so I think there may be a problem with JRiver."

dtc · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:30:03 pm »

That is the usual pointing to the other guy. You may have some setup problem with MC, but honestly, if a volume control set to 0 allows a loud sound, then the DAC, the amp in the DAC or the volume control is poorly designed or malfunctioning.

Are you using the Asus ASIO driver and is the bit perfect light on your DAC on? Are you set up to use DoP with your ASIO driver? You might also want to try using WASAPI instead of ASIO.

csaszart · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:43:58 pm »

yes, l use ASIO, and bit perfect light on my DAC, but please tell me how can l set up DoP for ASIO driver..
DSD coming , but volume to loud

dtc · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2021, 12:52:52 pm »

In Audio Device setup where you specify the ASIO output device, the Device Settings section should have a check box for DoP. You can check that.

As I think your DAC uses DoP, so changing the Audio Device to WASAPI should play DoP without using the ASIO driver. WASAPI only uses DoP for DSD, whereas ASIO can use DoP or native DSD sample rates.

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