Topic: NEW: Media Center 26 Update for IdNUC and IdPi (Read 12563 times)

BradATIMA · « **on:** February 27, 2020, 09:58:34 am »

There is an update available for newer Id models (All NUC models and Pi4) that will update Media Center to version 26. We plan to roll out the update to older Id models soon. Use option 12 from the Id main menu to get the update.

Edit (3/2/2020): This update is now available on all NUC models and IdPi4 models

More information is available here:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,117702.msg814102.html#msg814102

HS12 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 03, 2020, 05:12:04 am »

Update went through without issue on Id NUC 6

GaryB · « **Reply #2 on:** March 03, 2020, 10:46:10 am »

It seems to have broken the streaming on my IdPi

I get the Web Page Viewing is not yet supported message.

Id 25.0.9 MC 26.0.26

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2020, 03:07:38 pm »

We're looking at the web page problem.

GaryB · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2020, 06:17:35 pm »

Thank you Jim

bob · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2020, 04:36:23 pm »

Struggling with the webpage issue on arm. It's got some weird interaction with debugging. Still trying to figure it out.

GaryB · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2020, 06:55:58 pm »

Thanks for the update Bob,
Incidentally the update on my Id on the boat ( Intel Nuc) seems to have gone OK. My two other Id’s at home have not upgraded so are still working fine.

bob · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2020, 09:42:08 am »

Quote from: GaryB on March 10, 2020, 06:55:58 pm

Thanks for the update Bob,
Incidentally the update on my Id on the boat ( Intel Nuc) seems to have gone OK. My two other Id’s at home have not upgraded so are still working fine.

I'm considering making a build that backs off the chromium plugin and reverts to webgtk until the issue becomes more clear.

GaryB · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2020, 11:01:28 am »

Quote from: bob on March 12, 2020, 09:42:08 am

I'm considering making a build that backs off the chromium plugin and reverts to webgtk until the issue becomes more clear.

Well if that restores the Streaming page on the RPi it gets my vote !
Any news when it might be possible to have a repair image for the Id Nuc that could restore the BBC streams to me?

bob · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2020, 11:13:49 am »

Quote from: GaryB on March 12, 2020, 11:01:28 am

Well if that restores the Streaming page on the RPi it gets my vote !
Any news when it might be possible to have a repair image for the Id Nuc that could restore the BBC streams to me?

What version is your IdNUC on (MC and Id)?

GaryB · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2020, 03:49:52 pm »

Quote from: bob on March 13, 2020, 11:13:49 am

What version is your IdNUC on (MC and Id)?

24.0.16 26.0.26

bob · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2020, 10:33:26 pm »

The IdPi version for the pre IdPi4 builds is live.

Bohemian · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2020, 05:40:51 am »

Just tried to update mine but not updated. What is latest version number for non Pi4 version?

GaryB · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2020, 05:59:17 am »

Quote from: bob on March 17, 2020, 10:33:26 pm

The IdPi version for the pre IdPi4 builds is live.

Doesn’t update for me ?

25.0.9 and 26.0.26

astromo · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:34:17 am »

One of my older IdPi reports this after a 12 update:
Id:24.0.9 MC:25.0.114 Engen:1.0.69

Tried updating more than once. Same result.

JimH · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:39:34 am »

Quote from: astromo on March 18, 2020, 08:34:17 am

One of my older IdPi reports this after a 12 update:
Id:24.0.9 MC:25.0.114 Engen:1.0.69

Tried updating more than once. Same result.

IdPi, not IdPi4?

The first post here may explain.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,117702.msg814102.html#msg814102

I'll send you a private message.

bob · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:56:09 am »

Quote from: Bohemian on March 18, 2020, 05:40:51 am

Just tried to update mine but not updated. What is latest version number for non Pi4 version?

26.0.35
This is for the Id's that have a Id version of 24.0.17. These were made with compatibility for the 3b+

The IdPi4 builds will show a Id version of 25.0.9. That has NOT been upgraded yet but will soon and that will have the chromium browser plugin. The IdPi4 builds don't require an IdPi4 but they have a newer OS.

The older Pi3 (not b+) will show a Id version of 24.0.9. That's still in testing.

Bohemian · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:59:46 am »

Thanks Bob. Mine is 24.0.9.

bob · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2020, 09:00:18 am »

Quote from: GaryB on March 16, 2020, 03:49:52 pm

24.0.16 26.0.26

The IdNUC one will be in the stream today or tomorrow.

GaryB · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2020, 09:52:54 am »

Quote from: bob on March 18, 2020, 08:56:09 am

26.0.35
This is for the Id's that have a Id version of 24.0.17. These were made with compatibility for the 3b+

The IdPi4 builds will show a Id version of 25.0.9. That has NOT been upgraded yet but will soon and that will have the chromium browser plugin. The IdPi4 builds don't require an IdPi4 but they have a newer OS.

The older Pi3 (not b+) will show a Id version of 24.0.9. That's still in testing.

So I now have 2 Id’s showing 24.0.17 and 26.0.35, that are functioning correctly.

And 1 showing 25.0.9 and 26.0.26 with the broken web page.

Is this correct?

bob · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2020, 09:01:38 am »

Quote from: GaryB on March 18, 2020, 09:52:54 am

So I now have 2 Id’s showing 24.0.17 and 26.0.35, that are functioning correctly.

And 1 showing 25.0.9 and 26.0.26 with the broken web page.

Is this correct?

Yes!

bob · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2020, 02:24:19 pm »

As of now, all current IdNUC and IdPi models (versionless MC which started shipping with MC24) are upgradable to MC26 (currently 26.0.37).

For the NUC models the browser is the chromium plugin.
For the IdPi models < Id version 25.x the browser will be GTK based.
For the IdPi models Id version 25.x the browser is the chromium plugin.

GaryB · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2020, 03:22:53 pm »

Quote from: bob on March 20, 2020, 02:24:19 pm

As of now, all current IdNUC and IdPi models (versionless MC which started shipping with MC24) are upgradable to MC26 (currently 26.0.37).

For the NUC models the browser is the chromium plugin.
For the IdPi models < Id version 25.x the browser will be GTK based.
For the IdPi models Id version 25.x the browser is the chromium plugin.

Thanks Bob, all working fine,

G

bob · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2020, 03:31:46 pm »

Quote from: GaryB on March 20, 2020, 03:22:53 pm

Thanks Bob, all working fine,

G

Thanks for the report Gary!

ogenec · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2020, 03:35:29 pm »

Hi I am having problems updating my idPi (not P4). I tried it through Panel, and clicked "Confirm" but nothing happened. Then I connected to my monitor with an HDMI cable and hit option 12 from the main menu. It rebooted, but something like "0 updates" flashed and it's still stuck on the old version. Version numbers are: Id - 22.0.79 MC - 22.0.113. Please help!

Thanks,
Jude

ogenec · « **Reply #25 on:** April 29, 2020, 03:59:26 pm »

Quote from: ogenec on April 29, 2020, 03:35:29 pm

Hi I am having problems updating my idPi (not P4). I tried it through Panel, and clicked "Confirm" but nothing happened. Then I connected to my monitor with an HDMI cable and hit option 12 from the main menu. It rebooted, but something like "0 updates" flashed and it's still stuck on the old version. Version numbers are: Id - 22.0.79 MC - 22.0.113. Please help!

Thanks,
Jude

By the way, it's the same for my idNUC. Tried to update, but this is the version I currently show: Id - 22.0.81; MC - 22.0.114; Engen - 1.0.69.

astromo · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2020, 07:05:22 am »

Your IdNuc might need this sort of treatment:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,110326.0.html

If memory serves, I don't think IdPi upgrades work the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if a new SD card is required. Hopefully, bob or Brad will be along soon to give you the true story.

bob · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2020, 08:28:20 am »

MC23 was the first "rolling version" for builds of the Id. MC22 versions of the Id won't go past MC22.

If you have a NUC you can upgrade it yourself with the repair stick see the messages at the top of the forum.

For the Pi builds your only choice is to send the card back to us for a rebuild or purchase a new one (there might be a discount on that, email deanna (at) jriver (dot) com for details). The reason for this is that the Raspberry Pi can not be booted into a live system directly from a USB stick.

ogenec · « **Reply #28 on:** May 05, 2020, 06:38:08 pm »

Okay thank you that's helpful. I will look at the messages and reach out to Deanna.

HS12 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2020, 02:02:42 pm »

Now updated Id NUC6ACYH to Platform: Id
Version: 26.0.80 and all ok

gabeg · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2020, 12:51:58 pm »

I think I'm having Memory Play Issues again when using the Pi4 as a renderer. The host server does not disable the audio buffer in the DLNA section and have selected "load file into memory". When using the resource monitor the memory usage doesn't change. No matter how big the file is. Any thoughts? Is there another resource monitor i can try on the pi?

If memory play isn't working i don't want to add wear and tear to the SD card.

bob · « **Reply #31 on:** May 19, 2020, 01:22:40 pm »

Quote from: gabeg on May 19, 2020, 12:51:58 pm

I think I'm having Memory Play Issues again when using the Pi4 as a renderer. The host server does not disable the audio buffer in the DLNA section and have selected "load file into memory". When using the resource monitor the memory usage doesn't change. No matter how big the file is. Any thoughts? Is there another resource monitor i can try on the pi?

If memory play isn't working i don't want to add wear and tear to the SD card.

Is the Media Network setting Disable Audio buffer to disk on?
That prevents buffering to disk and should be on by default on the IdPi.

gabeg · « **Reply #32 on:** May 19, 2020, 03:07:00 pm »

It's not disabled but from my understanding if you're using memory play it will buffer to ram. Also, if I did want to avoid it buffering to the sdcard (and not ram), would you disable on the renderer or the ID that feeds the renderer.

Quote from: bob on November 07, 2019, 03:13:49 pm

I should have caught this before....
With the audio buffer disabled (in Media Network options) the incoming file will not be buffered on the MC renderer at all, it's using only the TCP window size for buffering.
When that's not disabled the buffered reader is used. This will be to the sdcard or memory depending on whether or not the play from memory is set as you have found.

gabeg · « **Reply #33 on:** May 21, 2020, 08:38:50 pm »

There's definitely something not working. The only way memory play works is if the file on the renderer. In the past the renderer was able to play from ram regardless if the file came from the server or not.

gabeg · « **Reply #34 on:** May 26, 2020, 11:01:10 am »

any thoughts on this?

bob · « **Reply #35 on:** May 26, 2020, 02:54:48 pm »

The internet reader in this case is lower level than the memory playback which appears to be disabled in the case of playing a URL.

The reader would normally buffer the file to be played back to disc so that it can be seeked, etc if it's not a seekable stream.
Enabling memory playback wouldn't change this since memory playback is done at the playback level which is well above the internet reader level. That's why the option to disable buffering to disc is enabled by default on the IdPi, the file is played back while it's being streamed bypassing disk buffering. At this point, memory playback doesn't offer much, it doesn't help the stream be seekable, etc.

That said we are not committed to play from memory for URL's being disabled but at any rate you would still have to leave disk buffering disabled in the options for your IdPi.

gabeg · « **Reply #36 on:** May 26, 2020, 06:03:58 pm »

So this has been changed from past versions?

bob · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2020, 02:33:26 pm »

Quote from: gabeg on May 26, 2020, 06:03:58 pm

So this has been changed from past versions?

According to Matt it was changed in 2018.

Donski · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2021, 11:34:36 am »

Disregard. I got it taken care of

Thanks,
Don

GaryB · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2021, 03:10:45 pm »

When you buy an Id, either complete or a SD card you will have received a specific licence code for that instance. You need to use that, enter the email address you registered it to and answer No to is this the first use question.

TrevorW · « **Reply #40 on:** November 03, 2021, 12:00:29 pm »

Hi Guys,
I think this is the right place for this request.

My JR ID setup is running ID 24.0.17, MC 26.0.107-5 and the Engen is 1.0.69
The hardware is Intel NUC DN2820FYKH - as supplied by JRiver many years ago.

What is the root to upgrade to MC27, 28 and beyond?
How far can I go with the existing hardware?
What forum topic deals with this please? - i always find it very difficult finding this info (without going in to the whole ID and current version debate again!!)

Regards

bob · « **Reply #41 on:** November 03, 2021, 03:22:23 pm »

Quote from: TrevorW on November 03, 2021, 12:00:29 pm

Hi Guys,
I think this is the right place for this request.

My JR ID setup is running ID 24.0.17, MC 26.0.107-5 and the Engen is 1.0.69
The hardware is Intel NUC DN2820FYKH - as supplied by JRiver many years ago.

What is the root to upgrade to MC27, 28 and beyond?
How far can I go with the existing hardware?
What forum topic deals with this please? - i always find it very difficult finding this info (without going in to the whole ID and current version debate again!!)

Regards

I just replied in your other thread.

INTERACT FORUM

Author Topic: NEW: Media Center 26 Update for IdNUC and IdPi (Read 12563 times)