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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #100 on: May 10, 2022, 12:29:38 pm »

I haven't clicked into Spotlight in a while, but did today and am impressed how it has evolved.  The matching on albums in my library and then to be able to play directly from there is nice, but I noticed one instance where I have the album in my library, but slightly different punctuation, and it didn't match.  See "The Burgh Island EP".  Technically perhaps the name is "The Burgh Island EP" and not "The Burgh Island - EP" but I feel like that hyphen shouldn't make an impact in the matching(see image Spotlight - Ben Howard).

In the second image, I clicked through to a related artist (A Blaze of Feather).  In this case, it shows albums covers, with no names and no related artists.  If I click on A Blaze of Feather in my MC library, then click Spotlight, I get a few related artists.  I tried this again (clicking through a related artist) and it seemed 50/50 that they would or would not show.  (see image Spotlight - A Blaze of Feather).
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #101 on: May 10, 2022, 12:44:04 pm »

I think you might to update to the newest version. There have been some changes, including a Refresh button which clears the cache. I would try that first.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2022, 01:11:39 pm »

 I am stupid. How do you enable this?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #103 on: May 10, 2022, 01:15:57 pm »

I think you might to update to the newest version. There have been some changes, including a Refresh button which clears the cache. I would try that first.

Ah thanks - also realized I'm using the Mac version, but just updated to .41.  I updated and now clicking through to related artists doesn't work.  The screen just blinks - but on my Windows desktop, it does work when I go through from artist to artist.  So I'll hold tight when that makes its way through to Mac. 
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2022, 01:34:57 pm »

I am stupid. How do you enable this?

You click the little yellow circle icon that shows up next to the Amazon, AMG, Google, Images, etc bar.

One other thing I noticed that feels wrong.  If an album name is truncated in the view, for example: "Amos Lee - Live at Red Rock (with the Colorado Symphony)", it shows as "Live at Red Rocks (with...".  If I click that, it then loads into the next page (a Google search), with the truncated name in the search box.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #105 on: May 11, 2022, 12:03:33 am »

Is Spotlight already active? I have 29, don't see this yellow icon to click near the Amazon, etc, upper right hand corner. The idea sounds great, though (not the world's most tech savvy person...)
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #106 on: May 11, 2022, 07:25:13 am »

Great new feature , early days I appreciate.

I use MC UI only for library maintenance, all my “listening” control is on an iPad Pro 12.9 in my armchair via JRemote

The 10^6 question, will Spotlight ever gravitate to JRemote once it’s polished?

I can’t be alone not sitting in front of a PC screen 😈
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #107 on: May 11, 2022, 07:53:16 am »

Great new feature , early days I appreciate.

I use MC UI only for library maintenance, all my “listening” control is on an iPad Pro 12.9 in my armchair via JRemote

The 10^6 question, will Spotlight ever gravitate to JRemote once it’s polished?

I can’t be alone not sitting in front of a PC screen 😈

Agreed, great feature.

Also I use MC both home and remotely, so yea . . . add one more vote for Spotlight to JRemote, please?   :)
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #108 on: May 11, 2022, 08:28:59 am »

Agreed, great feature.

Also I use MC both home and remotely, so yea . . . add one more vote for Spotlight to JRemote, please?   :)

Much of what Spotlight does already exists in the MO 4Media remote.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #109 on: May 11, 2022, 08:33:03 am »

Much of what Spotlight does already exists in the MO 4Media remote.

Not familiar with that app, but JRemote has been great.

Thanks anyway, I just looked up MO4Media and I will stick with JRemote as I avoid subscription ware whenever possible.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #110 on: May 11, 2022, 08:50:58 am »

Ahh, I found it! I was using JRiver Explorer to play music on an external hard drive-it doesn't appear there. If you go to Audio you see it (haven't imported all the music into JRiver, haven't settled on external drives and back up for my music...)
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #111 on: May 11, 2022, 08:59:24 am »

Much of what Spotlight does already exists in the MO 4Media remote.

I appreciate the shout out, but this is not the case.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #112 on: May 14, 2022, 12:03:04 pm »

With Spotlight there could be opportunity to add some opt in social features like in Radio Paradise. For example track database with collective rating avg, play counts (all time, this week, this month etc), comments and that kind of stuff.
Of course network traffic costs and also not all people want to share this kind of data even if anonymous but just a thought
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Re: Problems with less known groups
« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2022, 01:51:45 am »

I understand that finding information like this for less popular groups can be a challenge, but I have found several problems where SL does not find the correct albums, About is incorrect and the Similar Artists are very different from the original. The best way to show this is with some examples.

Again, less known artists are hard. But this needs some attention.

I am having a similar issue with the group "Enchant": https://www.discogs.com/artist/499774-Enchant

Also while looking at what sources etc.. to add it would be nice if Disccogs.org were an option or something.

Plus for things like Amazon links would be nice if the correct country were selected.  I am in Canada and a bunch of US links to purchase sites would not be very useful.

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #114 on: May 20, 2022, 01:55:29 am »

6) If a Spotlight tab is open its contents should refresh to the currently playing now.

Not sure this is a good idea.  If I am in the middle of reading about the current artist that is playing in a multi-artist / album playlist I don't think I would want the info that I might not be finished reading changing before I am finished?

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2022, 06:28:29 pm »

Agreed, great feature.

Also I use MC both home and remotely, so yea . . . add one more vote for Spotlight to JRemote, please?   :)
+1, same with the goodies of toolstip.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2022, 03:35:47 am »

I appreciate the shout out, but this is not the case.

Agreed.  I don't see anything that resembles Spotlight in MO 4Media.

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #117 on: May 28, 2022, 12:58:04 am »

I'm starting to discover Spotlight and am loving the features and potential.
Could we have or is there an option to make the background dark?
I'm using dark skins in both standard view and theater view.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2022, 02:11:33 am »

If the skin is changed, would it be possible for that to trigger an automatic "Refresh > Clear All", in the background, without slowing down the actual change of skin?

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #119 on: June 15, 2022, 11:07:44 pm »

Would love to see an MCC core command added, particularly when in theater view.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #120 on: June 15, 2022, 11:11:18 pm »

If the skin is changed, would it be possible for that to trigger an automatic "Refresh > Clear All", in the background, without slowing down the actual change of skin?

This will be in the next build (63).
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #121 on: June 15, 2022, 11:12:47 pm »

Would love to see an MCC core command added, particularly when in theater view.

Do you mean an MCC command to show Spotlight?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #122 on: June 16, 2022, 11:30:28 am »

Do you mean an MCC command to show Spotlight?

Yes.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #123 on: June 16, 2022, 03:15:04 pm »

Thanks for this great feature. I really appreciate to click on the album to play it if present on my library

I've an issue with Sade - Love Deluxe. All tags are Ok but there is not the play button as if it was not recognize. Don't understand why. It's Ok for all the other album.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #124 on: June 17, 2022, 08:44:11 am »

I've an issue with Sade - Love Deluxe. All tags are Ok but there is not the play button as if it was not recognize. Don't understand why. It's Ok for all the other album.

Make sure the Album tags in MC match "Love Deluxe" and do not have any extra characters in them.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #125 on: June 17, 2022, 11:52:23 am »

Make sure the Album tags in MC match "Love Deluxe" and do not have any extra characters in them.

I've retyped the title. Click on Refresh, relaunch JRiver, still have the issue (file attached)

I've the same issue on others artists like Loreena McKennit with album : the mask and mirror
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #126 on: June 17, 2022, 12:52:56 pm »

I've retyped the title. Click on Refresh, relaunch JRiver, still have the issue (file attached)

Did you click on the Refresh link at the bottom of the page?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #127 on: June 17, 2022, 03:15:30 pm »

Did you click on the Refresh link at the bottom of the page?
That"s it !

I clicked on the turning arrow on the top (wrong), not on the word Refresh at the bottom.

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #128 on: June 18, 2022, 07:10:57 am »

If we do that, it won't be soon.  In the meantime, please be patient, try it from time to time, and let us know how it can be improved.

It has been two months since that statement. Is now a good time to make the spotlight button removable?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #129 on: June 18, 2022, 10:30:27 am »

This will be in the next build (63).
Working well, thank you. The Spotlight pages are brewing nicely. Sadly, I've still not had a chance to test in Theater View yet... Hopefully tomorrow.

Today, I've made icons for the two Knit Knots skins...

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #130 on: June 18, 2022, 11:19:56 am »

I would love all this capability on JRemote. I have JRiver server and all my music on a laptop, but it is not the primary way I play music - that would be my iphone, then my ipad. I wish I could do more and see more on my iphone/ipad
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #131 on: June 18, 2022, 12:59:15 pm »

We'll get around to JRemote.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #132 on: June 18, 2022, 02:22:46 pm »

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #133 on: June 20, 2022, 09:35:37 am »

We'll get around to JRemote.

Awesome news!
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2022, 01:13:12 pm »

I had a problem with my new PC (Win11 Pro):
After clicking on the Spotlight-button I only got the text-content of the xml-file (first screenshot).

After changing the Tree & View - Web Browser option from "Internet Explorer" to "Microsoft Edge" and restarting MC: Spotlight works  :) (2nd screenshot)
Didn't even know, that I had chosen the "Internet Explorer"-option.

Perhaps I am not the only one with this problem...



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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #135 on: June 20, 2022, 01:18:31 pm »

Didn't even know, that I had chosen the "Internet Explorer"-option.

You're welcome :).
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« Reply #136 on: June 20, 2022, 01:20:32 pm »

Considering Microsoft ended all support for Internet Explorer 5 days ago (and Windows 11 doesn't even have it enabled anymore), maybe it's time to remove IE as a web browser option in MC?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #137 on: June 25, 2022, 11:47:17 am »

Feature Request for Spotlight:
Add a breadcrumb trail for easy navigation through previously opened Spotlight windows in the current tab.
It should have unobtrusive appearance, for example links in small blue font at bottom (left or centered).

Suggested behavior:  The trail remains "static/linear", so if you go back to a previous page, then go to a new page, the new page gets added to the end of the trail. In that sense, it is more of a "time history" rather than a traditional navigational breadcrumb trail.  Maybe use "|" instead of ">" as the link separator.

Alternative implementations:  (1) Drop down menu with check mark at current position.  Menu is less obtrusive then trail, but personally I'd rather see the history in full view.  (2) Insert new links in alphabetical rather than time order.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2022, 01:52:48 pm »

I downloaded V29 to take a look at Spotlight and need some help.

First: From Spotlight forum:  "We have multiple links at the top right of Playing Now when you're playing:
Amazon   AMG    Google   Wiki   Images   Youtube"

Somehow I turned those links off in v28 and they remain off after installing v29 (i.e.  the words and links to Amazon, AMG etc. no longer show in Audio/Files or Playing now.  Can someone explain how to add them back?  Once I get them back, I assume I'll find how to enable/display the Spotlight content.

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2022, 02:09:47 pm »

open options and type Links into the search bar at the bottom... there's only one result... put a tick in it and OK out of there :)

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2022, 02:14:10 pm »

Thanks marko....don't know what I did to loose the links, but that did the trick and I see that yellow circle for spotlight!

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2022, 02:43:46 pm »

Ok.  Found link.  Attached is the display from Spotlight. It is a static display of images from the artist of the one track playing at the time. I can close it and hit the link again when the next track starts.  Expected behavior at this time?

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2022, 02:46:38 pm »

You're not seeing any Related Artists because none were found.

About is a summary from Wikipedia, with a link at the end of the paragraph.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2022, 11:49:50 pm »

You're not seeing any Related Artists because none were found.

That's unlikely for The Avett Brothers, and mine is:
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #144 on: July 01, 2022, 09:57:22 am »

So, I've had a chance to play with Spotlight a bit and I have a question:

When you browse Music or TV Shows and you click on any of the items that can play a file (with the Green Play overlay button) it currently just dumps you to a Google search (for Music) or the TVMB page for the episode, etc.

That's fine I guess, but I'd really prefer it to take me back to my "originating View" and do effectively a "link button" search on that item for me.

Then, I could use Spotlight to browse to find Related Artists and then open up an Album of those artists and pick the next song. If it behaved like that, it would effectively replicate the "fancy Views" available in Plex and the like. As it is, I can only blow away my current Playing Now, and can only play full albums.

I'd like it if you kept the ability to do the Search/TVDB functionality, but (like the Play button overlay) I feel like that could be hidden under an (i) button overlay or something. Regular-Clicking on an album that you have in your Library, should "take you back to MC" and show it to you IMHO. This would also make the functionality in Theater View 1000x more relevant.

Likewise, if I click on the "headers" (the word The Avett Brothers) in my screenshot in my last post above, it should take me to a filtered list showing those file-results (and the name of a Series in the TV version, etc). Wikipedia is cool but I'd rather that be a secondary "button" like the Play icon.

But I haven't been following along and I couldn't find any discussion on it with my brief searches. Was this already discussed? Does it negate some central premise of the function?
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #145 on: July 01, 2022, 11:22:54 am »

Many popular albums have multiple releases, often featuring different cover art.
When Spotlight identifies an album in your collection with a green play icon, it should default to displaying the cover saved in your own collection.  Spotlight should only be free to pick something else if your own cover art is missing.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #146 on: July 01, 2022, 11:32:53 am »

Many popular albums have multiple releases, often featuring different cover art.
When Spotlight identifies an album in your collection with a green play arrow, it should default to displaying the cover saved in your own collection.  Spotlight should only be free to pick something else if your own cover art is missing.

Related, Spotlight should look for albums in your library and display them.  Now it only displays albums if it finds them in its external searches.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2022, 02:06:10 pm »

OK, after a few hours playing around I do see albums from my collection with links to play them, and related artists.  Very nice addition to the product.

I realize this is brand new, and you may have built the following in or have loads of things already on your plate, so just asking:

Could it change to the next artist when the player starts a new song from a different artist?

Could you add the ability to expanded view of the pictures by clicking on them?

None of my business, but how does it recognize artist and go about finding other albums in my collection?  For example, for Randy Newman, it did not show any albums, and boy, do I have a lot of Randy Newman!  Sometimes understanding the process would prevent dopey questions from me :)  I know I've played with some video streaming server software and some want your directory structure and naming fairly specific but then again, you have a DB of the library.  Just curious.

Good stuff I look forward to using.

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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2022, 02:17:42 pm »

OK, after a few hours playing around I do see albums from my collection with links to play them, and related artists.  Very nice addition to the product.

Yes, but only if it finds the albums with its external search. If it does not find them with its external search, it does not show albums in your library.  At least that is what I see.
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Re: NEW: Spotlight
« Reply #149 on: July 01, 2022, 05:26:55 pm »

Spotlight should show albums in your library and let you play them.  It's possible the cover art isn't right though.
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