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[zevele10]

IDF tells Israelis to stock up on kit for
sealing rooms

By Amos Harel, Lily Galili and Sharon Sadeh, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies





An Israeli man obtaining gas masks at a distribution center in Tel Aviv on Monday.
(Photo: AP)


Chilean air force attache Victor Pastrian saying goodbye to his wife at Ben-Gurion airport Monday, following the evacuation of non-essential diplomatic staff.
(Photo: Reuters)

* Analysis: The Palestinian issue as political lifesaver

Hundreds of IDF reservists in Home Front, anti-aircraft and intelligence units received emergency call-up orders Monday evening, ahead of a possible U.S. strike on Iraq. A wider call-up of reservists is expected in the coming days.

Almost simultaneously, the Home Front Command advised Israelis to stock up on all the materials needed to seal a room in their homes against a potential biological or chemical attack.

In a statement broadcast on local media, the Home Front said Israelis "should complete preparations and stocking up equipment for sealing rooms and other items needed in the sealed space." But the statement told Israelis not to open the state-distributed gas mask kits until further notice.

Recommended supplies for a sealed room include plastic sheeting, duct tape, canned food, at least one liter of water for each person in the room, flashlights, batteries, battery-operated radios, a fan, and personal belongings.

The announcements came hours after the White House declared that the "the diplomatic window has been closed" for Iraqi dismarmament and the U.S., Britain and Spain withdrew a second United Nations draft resolution authorizing war against Iraq. Instead, Bush will speak at 3 A.M. (Israel time), and is expected to deliver

[zevele10]

A TV if you have one in the room.

A bag with 3 days of clothes change ,some food and drink ,3 days of medecines if you take some , a letter from your doctor if you have a special medical records, your ID card.

This in case there is a need to evacuate you to a non-contamined aera.

I did an amazing numbers of bags today in old people places- the same next day.
I may sealed my room early because i would be really buzzy sealing the rooms of old people in my street latter on.

But this may be easier that the bags stuff to do.
It takes times : now give 3 pairs of shocks , now underpants
NOW, NOT all your medecines ,only 3 days in a box.
YOU DO NOT OPEN THIS BAG FROM NOW please .
Keep it near you during the alert.
Do not forget to have your wireless phone with the battery full.

DO NOT go to the toilets during an alert. Have a bucket
Do not put a pyjama at night.
Sleep with a training and your shocks.
The time from sirens to impact is 3 minutes.
So ,just wake up ,PUT YOUR SHOES , and after the gazmask.
Have  large towel weet , put it at the bottom of the door and seal the door if you can.
Try to seat far from an external wall and in any case not close from the entrance door of the room if the door not sealed.

Beside this ,nothing special, F.O .moustache

This is my part in the play .
F.O. moustache = in hebrew moustache is safam , we call him safam

[JimH]

What's going on here?

A few days ago, when we talked about this, several Europeans suggested that Americans did not understand war.

We do.  I remember my father serving in the Army Air Corps during World War II.  I was the only one in my family not born in our home state of Nebraska.  It was because my father was serving in Louisiana.

I remember my mother talking about working for the Manhattan project as a secretary.  She saw "uranium" on the invoices and wondered what it was.  They discovered how to create an atom bomb.

Later, I remember friends who had no fathers.  I remember older people visiting the cemetaries on Memorial Day.  Some of them were in tears over people they had lost.  I remember the terms, V-Day and VJ-Day, the days when we won.

When I was 10, we worried about nuclear war.  For the next few years, our teachers told us what would happen if an atomic bomb was dropped on us.  We would have to stay away from the windows.  We practiced hiding under our desks.  We were told not to look at the flash, and to protect our faces from the flying glass.

I watched the bombs being tested on the first black and white TV's.

For many years, there were paper poppies sold by veterans to raise money for those in need.  Later they were plastic.

We had a big Veteran's Hospital on the edge of town, where the seriously wounded or infirm could get help.  It was common to see a man without a leg or an arm, or with a face badly damaged.

That's what I remember from the residue of the two World Wars.  There are more memories from Korea and Viet Nam.

We know what war is.  We aren't happy about it.

We know what duct tape is.  We've been told to be prepared.  Duct tape and plastic are selling very well now.  

I didn't buy any.  My house has an old bomb shelter, left over from the days when Kruschev beat his shoe on the podium at the United Nations and said "We will bury you.".  We didn't know what it meant, but we felt we should be prepared.

I'm not for war.   But I'm not against it when it's needed.  France and Holland and England were pleased to have the U.S. decide to go to war once.  We didn't want to be drawn into it.

There is too much hatred here on Earth.  There are too many people now, and not enough resources.  People should try to understand others who are different, but it's easier to hate, I suppose.

I wish you well, Zevele.  We want you back when it's over.  We have more to talk about.

[zevele10]

If everything fine , i will not left.

I plan to move my computer to the bed room and will try to give live testimony.

I still have to read the notice about my digital camera.
Anyway to take asealed room ,an idiot with a gaz mask ,Patriot missiles in the sky i think you do not need very sophisticated settings
They tell you to have a pipe [?] to drink.
You do not expect to remove the mask to have a drink.
M and some friends we will have 2 : one for the drink ,one for the bong .........

If you wonder what  a bong is:

bong :http://www.drugs.indiana.edu/graphics/photographs/govt/bong.gif

http://bongshop.co.uk/GL04.htm

[PhatPhreddy]

As this topic is directly applicable to the fact that we are going to war I figured this 'State of the Universe' address I recieved via email from a buddy would do well here...

Its a little politicized sure but has enough wordplay chuckles thats its worth reading...


> Swami's 2003 State of the Universe Address
> By Swami Beyondananda
>
> Hello everybody -- it is great to be here ... and you know what?  We
> really have no choice.  Because no matter where we are, we are always
> here.  And it is always now.  In fact, there's even a book called  The
> Power of Now.  I haven't had time to read it yet, but I hope to get to
> it in a later now.
>
> Meanwhile, back in this now, the issue facing the United States, and
> indeed the world is, will George Bush give in to his Big Iraq Attack
> and order up a war?   Latest reports say that a war to force a regime
> change in Iraq will cost $200 billion.  It is puzzling to me why some
> of those fiscal fitness fanatics in the Republican Party haven't tried
> to find a cheaper way to do it.  Maybe if they offered the Iraqis
> half -- $100 billion -- they could do it themselves.  Then we'd still
> have $100 billion left to spend on regime change in this country.
>
> Because -- and I have to be blunt here -- the folks we have in charge
> are fossils fueled by fossil fuels.  And in the reptilian brain,
> problems aren't solved, they're attacked.  Like the War on Poverty.
> Remember that?  I'm happy to report that it's finally over.  The poor
> people have all surrendered.  And take the War on Drugs -- please!
> How many billions have they spent?  My solution is cheaper and more
> effective ... improve reality!
>
> Now we have the War on Terrorism.  We're going to terrorize those
> terrorists into giving up terrorism if it's the last thing we do!  And
> it just might be.  The good news is -- and I have it on the Highest
> Authority -- there will indeed be peace on Earth.  Whether we humans
> are around to enjoy it, that is up to us.
>
> No wonder there is so much fear, uncertainty and confusion on the
> planet.  I'll tell you how bad it's gotten.  You've heard of
> Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?  Well, they're not even sure about
> THAT anymore.  And so, more and more people are turning to the
> mystics for answers.
>
> I have often said there are two kinds of mystics, the optimystics and
> the pessimystics.  Now pessimystics seem to be more in touch with
> "reality," but optimystics are happier and live longer for some
> reason. The pessimystics have been crying, "The sky is falling, the
> sky is falling!"  The optimystics say, "No.  It just looks that way
> because we are ascending."
>
> Now, for those people who read the news -- not to mention those
> unfortunate enough to BE in the news -- last year was not an easy year
> to keep an optimystic attitude with so much pessimystic evidence.
> Call me a hopeless "hopium" addict, but I choose to accentuate the
> positive. For example, you can say we human beings have moved
> further down the path of self-destruction.  Or you could say the
> Earth is ridding itself of a virulent parasite.
>
> You can despair over continuing war, disease and starvation, or you
> cango, "Hey, population control the good, old fashioned way --
> without birth control or abortion."  Who says "compassionate
> conservative" is an oxymoron?
>
> You can worry about the government taking liberties with our
> liberties or you can say, "Life has become simpler!  They've
> boiled the Bill of Rights down to just one:  You have the right
> to remain silent."
>
> So I am not going to dwell on the negative.  As my guru Harry Cohen
> Baba used to say, "Life is like photography ... we use the negative to
> develop."  So let us look at the bright side.
>
> Like technological advances, for example.  Forty years ago President
> John F. Kennedy promised to have a man on the moon by the end of the
> 1960s.  Well, we have far exceeded that.  Thanks to the so-called
> Patriot Act, George Bush can have a man on Uranus by the end of the
> week!
>
> George Bush was responsible for a great spiritual advance last year,
> as well.  He upgraded the Golden Rule for the new millennium.  It's
> now the Gold Rule:  "Doodoo unto others before they can doodoo unto
> you."
>
> And -- say what you will -- President Bush has made great strides on
> behalf of minority representation.  Never before have we had a
> President who was looking out for a smaller minority.
>
> Now this is the State of the Universe Address, and seen from that
> higher perspective, things look great!  I am happy to report that the
> Universe continued to expand in 2002, and in fact, they actually had
> to let the Photon Belt out a another notch.  An expanding Universe
> means more jobs too, so we can expect a steady influx of aliens
> looking for work.  Yep, the Universe just keeps purring in perfection,
> ever-changing as usual.  The planets continue to harmoniously
> spin in their orbits, and except for the occasional case of
> asteroids,  they just calmly go about their business.
>
> Meanwhile, back here on earth, things are a bit more problematical.
> We still haven't fully recovered from that vicious dogma attack of
> 911. But as an optimystic, I believe you can indeed teach an old
> dogma new tricks, simply by changing the emPHAsis to another
> sylLABle.  Insteadof focusing only on emergency measures, why
> not take emerge 'n SEE measures?
>
> When we emerge from our fearful hiding places and see from the cosmic
> comic perspective, we realize that beneath all the stress and distress
> and sadness in life there is a deep well of joy.  Each time we let
> laughter bubble up from the well, we experience deep wellness.  Levity
> helps us overcome gravity, especially when we shine the light of
> laughter on those poorly-lit corridors of power.
>
> Do you know what the leading cause of terrorism is?  It's
> seriousness. I'm serious.  Think about it.  Those people have no
> sense of humor. Otherwise how could they believe they will get
> to heaven by putting other people through hell?  Here is my vision:
> A suicide bomber arrives at the Gates of Heaven, and God clops
> him over the head and says, "SCHMUCK!  What'd you do that for?
> 72 virgins?  YOU get one 72-year-old virgin, and his name starts
> with Ayatollah!"

...Cont

[PhatPhreddy]

....

>
> But if Americans are willing to revive the Iraqi Horror Picture Show
> just to feed our out-of-control oil habit,  how are we that different?
> How many innocents will be put through hell, just to preserve our
> little corner of relative heaven?   There is no real peace without
> harmony and balance, only the vicious cycle of injustice.  Peons
> get tired of getting peed on, right?  You get pissed on, and pretty
> soon you're gonna get pissed off.  This causes the hot spots to
> flare, and pretty soon you have an uprising, which usually results in
> a  downfall.  All these uprisings and downfalls can be wearing on
> the body politic.
>
> Fortunately, we do have a choice.  One of my favorite stories
> recently is about a Native American grandfather talking to his
> young grandson. He tells the boy he has two wolves inside of
> him struggling with each other.  The first is the wolf of peace,
> love and kindness.  The other wolf is fear, greed and hatred.
> "Which wolf will win, grandfather?" asks the young boy.
> "Whichever one I feed," is the reply.
>
> Every day -- every moment -- we have the choice to feed the
> wolf of love or the wolf of fear.  It is interesting that we are
> called humanKIND.  What better time than now to find out, can mankind
> treat man kindly?
>
> I have a dream ...  I call it tell-a-vision.  I say, if you're
> dissatisfied with the current programming, you can turn off your TV
> and tell a vision instead.  Here is my vision:  Remember the Manhattan
> Project during World War II?  It took less than four years for a group
> of scientists to develop the first weapon of mass destruction.  My
> vision is, we can do even better for an even worthier goal.  We could
> call it the Manhelpin' Project, and its purpose would be to develop
> the first weapon of mass construction instead.
>
> Think about it.  What if we used that $200 billion set to detonate in
> Iraq, and put it toward becoming the worldwide leader in renewable,
> clean, sustainable energy sources?  Now there's some real power.
> Create something so plentiful you don't have to pay an army to
> protect  your share.  A healthy income, a healthy outcome ... what
> could possibly make more sense?  Boy, talk about feeding two birds
> with one scone!
>
> The choice is up to us.  If we want an alternative, we must feed the
> "alter native" economy ... anything that alters us natives for the
> better.  The world we live in is a byproduct of the products we buy,
> is it not?  What if we only choose to buy products with healthy
> byproducts?  Think about this:  There are at least 45 million
> Americans who consciously want to feed the wolf of peace.  If each
> of us switched just $100 into the alter native economy, that would
> be $4.5 billion!
>
> Last year, we launched a blisskrieg and declared "all out peace."
> I'm happy to report it is already working.  More people are letting
> their inner peace out, and these outbreaks of peace are actually
> causing esteem to rise!  And we all know that rising esteem is good
> for the atmosphere.   As esteem rises, more people on the planet will
> be able to be all that they can be -- without joining the army.   And
> when more of us put our energy into love and laughter instead of
> criticizing and condemning, we will have Uncritical Mass ... and we
> will bring aboutNonjudgment Day, and along with it, Disarmaggedon.
> Now you might be wondering, what will Nonjudgment Day look like?
> Let me tell another vision.
>
> I have been to the heights of levity, and I have seen people all over
> the world dancing together in the universal dance of fool realization
> ... The Hokey Pokey.  I want you to hold this vision with me:  all of
> the world leaders at the United Nations beginning their sessions with
> the Hokey Pokey.  What if Ariel Sharon and Yasser Arafat put their
> whole selves in in?  That would be commitment.  And then pulled
> their whole selves out.  That is detachment.  Then they turn
> themselves around, which is transformation.  And that, my friends,
> is what it is all about!
>
> So, how can you help raise the laugh force on the planet enough to
> bring about Nonjudgment Day?  First, you can take a vow of levity, and
> laugh more.  And we even have a Laughmore Society to help you do just
> that.  Next, you can support everyone's right to laugh by joining the
> Right To Laugh Party ... "One big party, everyone is invited.  All for
> fun, and fun for all."
>
> Commit random acts of comedy.  Practice Fun Shui and leave the world
> a funnier place.  Anything to elicit a moment of of fool-realization
> with a spark of laughter.  Because only when we lovingly laugh at our
> foolishness, can we seriously change things for the better .  May you
> wake up laughing and leave laughter in your wake ... and may the Farce
> be with you!
>
> © Copyright 2003 by Steve Bhaerman.  All rights reserved.  To find
> out more about the Swami, and how you can promote healing laughter and
> transformational comedy through the Laughmore Society and the
> Right-To-Laugh movement, go to
>
> http://www.wakeuplaughing.com or call Swami's hotline at
> 1-800-SWAMI-BE.
>
> As members of the Laughmore Society, you will receive:
>
> . A handsome certificate of Absurdification, suitable for framing
> -- or at least to remind you to "enlighten up."
>
> . A Wake Up Laughing laughter tape to play any time you need a
> reminder that there is indeed  a laugh track out there.
>
> . The official Laughmore Society button with the motto, "Overcome
> With Laughter."
>
> . Specials and discounts on books, tapes, CDs and other cosmic
> comedy products, including those of the Swami.
>
> . The monthly Wake Up Laughing E-zine, featuring not just funny
> stuff, but tips on applying the art of "situational comedy" to just
> about any situation.
>
> You get all of this for the laughable sum of $21.95 per year ... tax
> deductible, of course. You get to support the cause of transformation
> through comedy, and nourish yourself and those around you with
> healing laughter. Talk about feeding two birds with one scone!
>
> But wait ... there's more. If you become a Charter Member of
> Laughmore, you will receive Swami's groundbreaking music and comedy
> CD, Drive Your Karma, Curb Your Dogma ... a $16 value. Even if you
> already own the CD, you can certainly think of someone who'd love to
> laugh at Steve and Swami's enlightening humor.
>
> To join now, follow this link
> http://www.wakeuplaughing.com/cgi-bin/thatsanorder_LE
>
> To join by check, please send check for$21.95 to
> Laughmore Society,
> 400 W. Third St., D-144,
> Santa Rosa, CA 95401.
>
> And please feel free to pass this offer on to your friends and
> associates, because when it comes to laughter, the more the merrier.
> And remember too that what goes around, comes around. So .. the laugh
> you save, may be your own.
>
> May the FARCE be with you,
>
> Steve Bhaerman
>
>

[Roger_the_Shrubber]

"Oh, you English are so superior, aren't you? Well, would you like to know where you'd be without the old U S of A to protect you? The smallest silly province in the Russian Empire! So don't call me stupid, lady, just thank me!"
--Otto, A Fish Called Wanda - 1988

[PhatPhreddy]

I assume you are joking.... But just in case... I suppose you did spot

> Laughmore Society,
> 400 W. Third St., D-144,
> Santa Rosa, CA 95401.

[Roger_the_Shrubber]

Yeah, that was just a bit 'o fun........

But that quote does make one think 'bout moral high ground in general (vis a vis the current situation).

Greetings from South Africa......... (Australia vs. Sri Lanka near me at the moment)

[michel]

I don't understand why people ever confuse people and their government...

You can be against the war (so against Bush) without to be against american people. You can be against Saddam (in fact you must be) without to be against Irakian people (and to kill them).

So why ever remember us that american people help us in 1945 ? It is true but does that mean we have to agree all they will do until the end of the time ?

War is the worse thing on the earth. I cannot do any difference between civils and soldiers, they are both men (do you think really that most of american and irakian soldiers would not prefer to stay with their family at home ?).

Of course, less terrorism will result from this war. Or would result... We can hope... Really ?

On the other side I am not convinced by the purity of Chirac reasons but if that could avoid dozens of thousand of people killed...

It is not God against Satan and it is not a game. They are (chirurgical  ?) bombs against men, women and children without an absolute and immediate need, all that decided by a few people following hidden interests, not really by the american people.

Internet shows us everyday through the forums that we are not very different people on earth and (except may be zev  ) and that we can understand each others in peace even having different opinions so may be there is a little hope for the future.

[zevele10]

I DID NOT POST TO OPEN A DEBATE.
AND I REALLY DON"T CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK

I did post as one member of this forum having a not everyday life experience.

Like another one may post about a tornado going near him. Or if Olympic games in his town.

It is kind of a dairy of special moments in a life of one member.
It is not a tribune your ass in your chair in front of your screen.
It is irakis people and israelis people tense,afraid ,scared not sure to read this forum in few days from now...

[JimH]

Internet shows us everyday through the forums that we are not very different people on earth and (except may be zev  ) and that we can understand each others in peace even having different opinions so may be there is a little hope for the future.

That's very well said.  Thanks.

[zevele10]

Earlier in the day, the Home Front Command recommended that Israelis should seal a room in the house, but said that there was no need to remove gas mask kits from their boxes at this stage

Tomorow afternoon they will say to open the box with the gaz mask.

Anyway going out now for the last concert before the war
MachineHead:
It is the concert/party for the realease of Nail Inside cd.

Concert ,sure .
Party , i do not think it will be one