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bob:
--- Quote from: blgentry on October 11, 2022, 02:17:05 pm ---Hawi, isn't your issue with diacritic characters about how you enter them? I.E. other programs let you enter the characters in a standardized way, but MC requires some special procedure that is more time consuming and difficult?
As I said, I have quite a few file names with diacritic characters in them.
Brian.
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When I enter them using the hold down the key and select method they work fine.
How can you generate one in the search box that doesn't work??
HaWi:
--- Quote from: blgentry on October 11, 2022, 02:17:05 pm ---Hawi, isn't your issue with diacritic characters about how you enter them? I.E. other programs let you enter the characters in a standardized way, but MC requires some special procedure that is more time consuming and difficult?
As I said, I have quite a few file names with diacritic characters in them.
Brian.
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Brian, I believe there are at least two issues. One is that entering diacritic characters is different from other apps. I have learned to live with that. The other, more difficult to deal with for me, is that diacritic characters that have been imported from other sources (e.g. I edit my tracks in Tag Editor before importing to MC) seem not to be recognized correctly and in some fields (e.g. [file name]) containing Händel looks like Ha ndel) and generates some issues with searching and also sometimes MC cannot find the file anymore. Interestingly, this doesn't seem to happen in the [Album] field(and possibly others fields). Furthermore, those diacritics do not translate well to other platforms. If I have Händel in a file name or folder name, even when "fixed" by typing them in again in MC, they still result in Ha ndel when I restore a library on Linux (this may not be a MC issue but rather a cross-platform file system issue). Long story short, I have to remove all diacritics to be able to use my library on both MacOS and Linux without getting "missing files".
blgentry:
I'm not really understanding your process. Does Tag Edit rename your files? If not, then how does [Filename] end up with missing characters?
Why aren't you using MC to edit your tags and rename your files?
Finally, for cross platform file names, you really do want to remove the diacritical characters from the file names on disk. This guarantees the most compatibility.
Brian.
HaWi:
--- Quote from: blgentry on October 12, 2022, 08:59:12 am ---I'm not really understanding your process. Does Tag Edit rename your files? If not, then how does [Filename] end up with missing characters?
Why aren't you using MC to edit your tags and rename your files?
Finally, for cross platform file names, you really do want to remove the diacritical characters from the file names on disk. This guarantees the most compatibility.
Brian.
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Thanks Brian,
I guess my problem is that I like to have my filenames be the same as: [Album Artist]/[Album]/[Composition] - [Movement] so I always F6 to that. That way I can get all my metadata back if I "Update Library from Tags" if I need to. That maybe overly paranoid, I know.
For me, Tag Editor is a bit smoother for some edits but maybe I should go back to editing everything in MC
Hans
blgentry:
--- Quote from: HaWi on October 12, 2022, 11:32:29 am ---I guess my problem is that I like to have my filenames be the same as: [Album Artist]/[Album]/[Composition] - [Movement] so I always F6 to that. That way I can get all my metadata back if I "Update Library from Tags" if I need to. That maybe overly paranoid, I know.
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Update Library From Tags reads the tags *inside* the files. ID3 tags, Vorbis tags, etc. The file name is not used at all. MC does have a tool called "Fill Properties from Filename", which attempts to extract this information from the file name. But it's really for emergency use, or for files that have no tags in them at all (like most WAV files for example).
By all means, do whatever makes the most sense for you. But my library has diacritical characters in Album, Artist, Name, etc. *and* most of those files use regular ascii characters for the filename. These Album, Artist, etc tags are INSIDE my files and don't care about the file name.
MC's "master switch" for writing tags is located at:
Tools > Options > General > Importing and Tagging > update tags when file info changes
If you turn that on, every tag change will then be written to the files. You can force this to happen by selecting some files and then using "Update Tags from Library".
--- Quote ---For me, Tag Editor is a bit smoother for some edits but maybe I should go back to editing everything in MC
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I'm not sure if Tag Editor is doing anything odd or not. I'm still not quite getting how your filenames have missing characters (the empty spaces you showed in your screen shots). I've never seen that in all the renames I've done. ..and I've done thousands. Which is why I asked about Tag Editor, as I have no experience with it.
Best of luck to you Hans.
Brian.
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