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fredimac

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Missing or false track titles
« on: September 16, 2023, 06:57:24 am »

In many albums are false or missing track titles

One sample here:
2 screenshots from MC31 31.0.54 (Silicon)
1 Screenshot from Mp3tag

M1 Mac Mini, Ventura 13.5.2

Whats wrong, what could I do?
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fredimac

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Re: Missing or false track titel
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2023, 07:35:08 am »

KariBremnes, Finder, Mp3tag, MC31
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Re: Missing or false track titel
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2023, 07:37:25 am »

MystcalScent - Finder, Mp3tag, MC31

I have many (!!!) albums with UTF-8 characters
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Re: Missing or false track titel
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2023, 12:07:02 pm »

How did you import these files? Existing files on disc? Ripped in MC? Using auto-import or drag/drop?

MC doesn't have issues with utf-8 on Mac, I have plenty of those in my library.
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fredimac

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Re: Missing or false track titel
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2023, 12:18:30 pm »

The most albums are ripped from CDs. I used XLD, but mostly dBpoweramp Music Converter.
Some music are downloaded (HDTracks, Qobuz, 2L Music Store, Linn Records, etc.)
For editing I use Mp3tag.
All music players, except MC31, display this information correctly. So that a problem of MC31.

As audio player I use:
foobar2000 v2.3
Foobar2000 v2.6 beta
Fidelia (from Apple's App Store)
Audirvana Studio
Media Center 31

Ripping:
dBpoweramp Music Converter (Ripping, Converting)
XLD (Ripping)

Editing, Test:
Mp3tag (Meta Text Editing)
PerfectTUNES (AccurateRip)

M1 MacMini, Ventura 3.5.2
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Re: Missing or false track titel
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2023, 01:15:59 pm »

I'm quite confused by the screenshots.  At first I thought you had no meta data, or really bad metadata.  But that's clearly not true.  You seem to have relatively complete metadata for the examples shown.

I don't speak German, so the column names and field names I have to guess at.  I'm wondering if MC is somehow not mapping the right metadata fields in the files to the right fields inside of MC.  The column that is supposed to hold "artist" seems like it has song titles instead (banana boat song).

I can tell you that I have ripped hundreds of albums with XLD and MC picks up the correct values for the correct fields each time.

Perhaps you could send a sample of one album or just a few songs to one of the MC developers to test with.

Brian.
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Re: Missing or false track titles
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2023, 02:19:33 pm »

Using mp3tag on FLAC files?
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fredimac

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Re: Missing or false track titles
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2023, 01:14:36 am »

MP3tag works well on .wav or .flac Files!
Some CDs are not found in internet album databases - so I must write album and track title self. This albums are shown correct in MC31.

I could upload some of the bad albums in my cloud (with password I tell you in PM) so you could test them.

Some albums before was in .wav - I converted them with dBpoweramp in .flac.

Strangely, all the other players have had no problems with the metadata so far!
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Re: Missing or false track titles
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2023, 01:42:56 am »

On my Mac I have 2 users.
For working a “Normal User“ - for admin a “Admin User“
Now I copy some of the the “Bad Albums“ to the admin user profile, here are all Meta Datas correct!

I with my working user profile I tested some older MC versions, had transfered this from my old Mac.
Which MC files I must delete (hidden too) to start complete new?
In ~/Library/Application Support/J River I deleted them, but where else? Hidden files too!

For what are “Bibliothek leeren“ - Empty/Clear library? Could help this?
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Re: Missing or false track titles
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2023, 01:55:55 am »

Clearing your library will let you start over.
Back up first.  Try the wiki.
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fredimac

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Re: Missing or false track titles
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2023, 03:31:20 am »

Reload datas solved this problem.

Something must have gone wrong at first read in. Could have been caused by the crashes at the beginning (see other thread).

Try Wiki good hint, but first you have to know what to look for!

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