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max096:

--- Quote from: rlmartindale on December 28, 2023, 05:48:43 am ---....why I thought Linux was a joke....tried to install Debian.....fail and lockup...tried two different flavors of ubuntu....nothing....except Blacklisting errors...this is a modern system running win 11 Pro with no real issues....it was an interesting experiment....

....but i will just pay MS now and then and buy a copy of Windows....then go listen to music and not spend hours "saving" money with linux....

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Probably on debian 12 you´d need to enable non-free and contrib repositories to have a solid experience. Some hardware needs proprietary firmware blobs to work at all. Debian 12 split up the driver repos into a non-free one and a regular one where all the drivers are free. None of them cost money it´s about is it open source or not. But if your hardware needs them to function properly you don´t have much wiggle room to care about that.

But tbh if you´re happy using windows trying linux with the main expectation being "saving money" you´re wasting your time imo. Windows is close to free nowadays anyways. They clearly do not care anymore to make money off of selling licenses to consumers.

jmz:

--- Quote from: max096 on December 28, 2023, 10:00:12 am ---...

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Windows is close to free nowadays anyways. They clearly do not care anymore to make money off of selling licenses to consumers.

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I wouldn't expect anything good from MS. Maybe they will introduce Windows as subscription service one day. But probably earlier we will see adverts being displayed on Windows OS. Also each new version will spy on us more. If something from big company is coming for free (or almost free) we and our privacy are the price.

Ubuntu and Debian are easy to install in most situations. Unless someone have very new hardware or is making some mistakes during installation process or have some hardware problems.

I don't want to compare Windows vs Linux here... but if you will look on Windows forums... you will have many people who have problems to install Windows on their computers.

I'm JRiver Media user for a few years now... recently converted my licence to Master and now moved to Debian 12.4 In my opinion it was great choice.

PS.
I have multiple computers at home and work. A few years ago all of them where running on Windows (including Windows Server 2012 Essentials on server).

Today I'm using Windows on tablet and one workstation where I use Adobe Photoshop. I may also migrate one day to Linux on my tablet.
But I will have to stay on Windows on 1 computer where I use Photoshop.

Everything else is running on Linux.
 

Awesome Donkey:
Sounds to me you have newer hardware (e.g. newer Nvidia GPU, newer AMD/Intel CPU, etc.) and by blacklisting drivers, I assume you have a newer Nvidia GPU and you're trying to blacklist Nouveau and run the proprietary Nvidia driver? If that's the case, you should probably use a distro that is more on the cutting edge with newer kernels and drivers. Rolling distros like Manjaro, EndeavorOS and XenoLinux (all Arch Linux based) come to mind here. Distros like Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Linux Mint, elementaryOS, etc. run older kernels and drivers typically and if you're using newer hardware, you may have nothing but issues. Yeah, there's workarounds like PPA and repositories, but it's just a hassle.

Be warned though, if you have secure boot enabled in your UEFI BIOS and you either won't disable it or can't disable it, it's going to limit your Linux distro choices greatly, as only a handful (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, etc.) support secure boot.

Honestly though? You might be better off sticking to Windows 11 if it already does everything you want it to.

jmz:

--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on December 28, 2023, 11:55:47 am ---Sounds to me you have newer hardware (e.g. newer Nvidia GPU, newer AMD/Intel CPU, etc.) and by blacklisting drivers, I assume you have a newer Nvidia GPU and you're trying to blacklist Nouveau and run the proprietary Nvidia driver? If that's the case, you should probably use a distro that is more on the cutting edge with newer kernels and drivers. Rolling distros like Manjaro, EndeavorOS and XenoLinux (all Arch Linux based) come to mind here. Distros like Debian, Ubuntu LTS, Linux Mint, elementaryOS, etc. run older kernels and drivers typically and if you're using newer hardware, you may have nothing but issues. Yeah, there's workarounds like PPA and repositories, but it's just a hassle.

Be warned though, if you have secure boot enabled in your UEFI BIOS and you either won't disable it or can't disable it, it's going to limit your Linux distro choices greatly, as only a handful (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE, etc.) support secure boot.

Honestly though? You might be better off sticking to Windows 11 if it already does everything you want it to.

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Yes... this is the problem when very new hardware meets Linux.

Wish to see better support for new hardware from Linux... and Adobe software working on Linux (without Wine etc.)

Awesome Donkey:

--- Quote from: jmz on December 28, 2023, 12:04:45 pm ---Wish to see better support for new hardware from Linux... and Adobe software working on Linux (without Wine etc.)
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Well, better Linux hardware support and Nvidia don't really mix, but nothing new there. I recently bought a new GPU, and I almost got a Nvidia GTX 4070... then I remembered that I might want to use Linux and dealing with Nvidia's proprietary drivers is something I did NOT want to do. So I picked up a AMD RX 7800 XT for Black Friday and it's been a great with both Windows 11 and Ubuntu 23.10. And on Ubuntu there's no need to mess around with proprietary drivers or driver PPAs, no tweaks or anything needed. It works extremely well out-of-the-box. With CPUs there's really not much issue with those, as both AMD and Intel typically send in what's needed for the Linux kernel way before the new CPUs release.

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