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pisimi

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After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« on: July 18, 2024, 03:45:56 pm »

This is big problem for playing live (with band), that if you STOP a song after few seconds, player goes to the next song.
This is not good, because I want to start song again.
Now, I have first to go back on the list... and then press Enter.

This issue is beginning to happen with last updates.

I would also like, that after playing a song, player stays at this song and do not goes to the next. This was possible at previous versions.

We are using Media Center for live playing and it is very good.

Tomaz
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2024, 03:48:43 pm »

If you press stop, nothing should play until you tell it to.

Maybe you're using pause, not stop?

There are some settings here that might be useful:

Tools > Options > General > Behavior
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pisimi

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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2024, 03:47:13 am »

I am using STOP button. On the playlist, program jumps to the next song on playlist!

I checked options and there is nothing that I can change this behaviour.
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2024, 06:59:30 am »

Are you playing locally, to a device connected by USB or HDMI, or are you playing via the network to a DLNA or UPnP device?  Please describe your setup and how you start playback.
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2024, 02:26:55 pm »

For the record I don't see this behaviour.
Playing from a Playlist, press Stop and the playing track remains highlighted.
Pressing Play starts the same track from the beginning as expected.
So what the OP is saying is not default behaviour
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pisimi

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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2024, 03:37:16 am »

I recorded this problem - see attachment.

I played a song "Dao bih sto Amerika".
After few seconds  I STOP the song.
On playlist the NEXT song is highlighted - "Everybody need somebodyR"

Please, help!!!

In Media Center 31 this doesn't happen!!!

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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2024, 10:33:23 am »

I played a song "Dao bih sto Amerika".
After few seconds  I STOP the song.
On playlist the NEXT song is highlighted - "Everybody need somebodyR"

Please, help!!!

In Media Center 31 this doesn't happen!!!
In the Player Bar area, immediately to the right of the Progress Bar, hover mouse over the Repeat icon and select "(click to change)".
Is the menu item "Stop after each item" selected?  That will exhibit the described behavior in MC32.

Try selecting "Repeat Off".  Then "Stop" button should return to start of current track.

Recently there were some very beneficial improvements to this menu in MC 32 - what you describe may be a side effect of the changes.  In any case, MC32 current behavior is:
-  "Stop" button auto-moves to start of current track if "Repeat Off" is selected (customary behavior).
-  "Stop" button auto-moves to next track if "Stop after each item" is selected (as described by OP).
These actions appear inconsistent and can lead to confusion.

Feature Suggestion:  Add additional Stop States to distinguish the two possibilities for "Stop After Each Item" (there are obviously use cases for both settings):
(1) Return to start of current track and stop
(2) Jump to start of next track and stop

To solve the OP's problem, upper left "Stop" button should:
- Follow suit for State (2), effectively creating a delightful new feature (different from the Next button).
- Otherwise default to the customary action of State (1).

The more general solution:  Allow specifying independent Stop States for the upper left Stop button and the Repeat menu.

If implemented as two selectable items within the Repeat menu, there needs to be a corresponding upgrade from a 4-state to a 5-state icon for skinning the Repeat button.  Also, a gentle sticky way of indicating the most recently selected of (1) and (2) in the menu (bold, italics, short underline, asterisk, small dot, ...), which sticks even when another menu item is subsequently selected by check mark.

Alternatively, implement Stop States (1) and (2) as a 2-member toggle group in the Options menu, leaving the Repeat menu unchanged.

Implement the more general solution with either two such 2-member toggle groups in Options, or Repeat menu + Options toggle for the upper left Stop button.

Added twist: Extend the upper left "Stop" button skinning so as to enable reflecting the Stop States (1) and (2) with different upper left "Stop" images (of course maintain backwards compatibility).

Related Issue:  There is currently an annoying flash and Progress Bar motion when hitting Play button after Stop button has been hit.  This is another Player Bar interface issue to be addressed.


7/21/2024 Edited Feature Suggestion for clarity and added the more general solution.

Win 11 Pro (64-bit) | MC 32.0.58
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2024, 04:34:34 pm »

I use "Stop After Each Item". Because for live playing, I prepare the next song while playing. And next song is NOT next song on the playlist!!!

If I select "Repeat off", then if song Stopped after few seconds player STAY on this song - true!!
But if song is played until the end, player automatic start playing next song!! And it is useless for live playing...

I found your suggestion very good! But will it be considered by the developers?

I've got announcement of version Media Center 33.
Our band use Media Center for about 20 YEARS!!!

But if this problem will not be solved, we will have to go back to Media Center 31....   
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2024, 08:21:17 am »

Stop After Each Item does advance to the next track now.  That was a requested feature so we changed.

If you stop by hand it will not advance.
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2024, 08:41:01 am »

We'll add an option to coming builds to keep everyone happy.
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2024, 04:30:36 pm »

Thanks a lot!

But this option was in "General advanced settings " as I remember few versions back... and then you remove it...
I am glad that it will be back!!
 
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Re: After STOP player goes to the next song from playlist
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2024, 02:19:12 pm »

I've just installed Media Center 33 and this problem is solved! GREAT!

You can find this option:
- settings
   - audio
      - advanced
          - ADVANCE TRACKS WHEN STOPPING

Thanks a lot!!!
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