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[KingSparta]

graham131

Make sure you Have the latest version of MJ8, the update was posted yesterday.

if you have not installed visual basic runtime files that may help. not all programs install all the VB runtime files or dlls that maybe needed to run a VB project (it can't hurt).

reboot, do not load MJ

go to the plug-in's page and download the plugin and install.

load MJ see what happens.

[KingSparta]

Mirko

Some Ideas:

In the last version if you use the delete all 100% matches it works, but on the scan you do not have an option for this to Automaticly delete the 100% matchs.

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Howabout an Option

[X] Clear Delete List On New Scan

Also A [Clear] Button


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When You Press Play 1, Change That Button To "Stop", Leave Play 2

this way a user does not need to press "Stop" and then "Play 2"

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Press Delete

Asks Do You want to remove files from match list, if you press no it does it anyway.

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If you press "Save" the Header for the MsgBox Is Cut Off
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If you press "Load" the Header for the MsgBox Is Cut Off
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Sometimes when you select a song in the match box the box seems to clear.

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If you dbl click on a file in the delete list play it.

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if you select the file in delete also highlight the files in the match list.

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when you move from one file to the next (maybe using th up and down arrows) autostop play and auto start play.

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auto play time, in setup combo box user selects will play song 1 for lets say 15seconds, then stops and plays the second song for 15 seconds)

[nila]

How can I use a smartlist for this?
I need your plugin to find the duplicates, if I could then export all these files in full to a playlist straight away then I could use a smart list but there's no option to do that that I'm aware of

Might be a nice option to just add all the files straight to a playlist if we wanted.

[Mirko]

@Nila:

I thought about a filter like "album=[random songs]" in a smart-playlist. So you can always see the songs, that are currently assigned to this album.
Isn't this what you would like?

Sure I can add that option. I was just thinking, that I would solve this problem another way.

[graham131]

Mirko.

Thankyou thankyou thankyou

By using the Regsvr32 and registering individually it is now working.

I will now get on with the importnat bits of playing with and testing it.

Cheers

Graham

[graham131]

WOW!!!!!!

24,500 Tracks scanned in 13 mins - 813 Duplicates found however I do need to now refine my searching a bit as I do want to keep dupes on certain albums etc ie Greatest Hits.

This is what I have been waiting for.

Along with Kingsparta (for Chartfinder) I would like to vote Mirko MJ'er of the week!!!!!!

Regards

Graham

[KingSparta]

graham131

Can you state step by step what you did and what you entered.

there are other people having this problem, and maybe with your help we can sort out what and how users can register both chart finder, and Mirko's program "Duplicate Finder"

[nila]

That would show me all the songs that were in the 'Random Songs' album but it wouldn't show me all the duplicates that had their album set to Random Songs .

Finding the duplicates that exist is the key here

[KingSparta]

Nila

If you make a play list with random songs.

right click on "Go" this will allow you to select your new Random Song Play List, then you can run Dup Finder on that list.

[Mirko]

It seems like KingSparta does a fine job in supporting the plugin ;-)

I think that what graham did will help many others. Maybe we should make a MJP-file for "Visual Basic runtime - plugins". Then we could contribute this to the interface plugin section on JRiver website. What do you think?

Thanks a lot.

Now I quit working for my customers and try finding my way home. If the autobahn is not full of cars today like it was yesterday, a "little" accident, I can begin adding the requested features in about an hour :-))

Mirko

[KingSparta]

>> I think that what graham did will help many others.
yep

> Then we could contribute this to the interface plugin section
> on JRiver website.
Reading My Mind Again?


I finaly ran into a German Beer I hate last night.

Weihenstephaner - Hefeweissbier Dunkel (Sucks)

The other 4 or 5 Beers they make are good

[nila]

ok,
Tried the smart list, it doesn't work.
That just finds duplicates within my random songs bunch.

Basically the Nila special option was what I wanted.
The only extra thing I wanted was to be able to automatically delete the matching song that had the album name specified in the 'nila special'

Still not following me?

[Mirko]

@KingSparta:

I can _really_ understand why you didn't like that beer. Really. I'm coming from the Rheinland, which means we typically drink "Königspilsner" (Pils), "Kölsch" (a beer from cologne) or "Alt". My favorite is Altbier, exactly "Frankenheim", a small local brewery (which exports to the world I think).

Your ideas were very good. I integrated all but one of them (I have to implement the buttons for clearing the listviews).

@Nila:

I did it ;-) The update is on it's way.

[KingSparta]

Bug 1:

When you copied the new Options in setup, you did not change the Tool Tips for the last 3 options.

Bug 1:

On The version page some of the text is cut off.

There must be a Clearer way to show a user what file is playing.

Maybe In The Difference Info Box?

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Just a Note about the screen slearing on the match list. with MJ skins Disabled it works better. i have not seen this problem on the delete list. maybe it is someting your doing or not doing to the match list that is creating this problem with the list clearing (Resizing? something else?) when a user clicks on the box.


Now Drinking "Hoegaarden" The Orginal White

A Naturally Cloudy Non-Filtered, Belgium Beer

[Mirko]

Bug 1:
When you copied the new Options in setup, you did not change the Tool Tips for the last 3 options.
Bug 2:
On The version page some of the text is cut off.

Fixed.

There must be a Clearer way to show a user what file is playing.
Maybe In The Difference Info Box?

I have found a little source for adding icons to subitems in the listview. So you now can see an ear listening to the song ;-)

Mirko, now going to bed, who only knows belgium schokolade.

[Sam.]

Mirko,
I know it must be difficult receiving suggestions from users and trying to make everyone happy.  You're doing great.  Just remember that you can't please everyone.    And feel free to say 'No' sometimes.

I've been trying to think about how I would choose which songs to delete after DupFinder identifies the matching songs.  I have a few suggestions.  (Some of them are big...)

I don't think the percent calculation is very useful to me.  If it's an exact match, then great, I'll delete either song.  But if the match is less than 100% (whether it's 99% or 33%), I'll want to know what exactly the difference is before I choose to delete a song.  The number itself doesn't help me make a decision.

Similarly, I can't choose most of the Autodelete options because there will always be exceptions.  For example, if the songs are from two different albums, I would not want DupFinder to automatically delete the shorter song.  I suggest that the Autodeletion options be limited to specific instances.  For example, delete the shorter song only if the song length is the only difference (meaning that the album names are the same).
Perhaps like this:
[X]  Exact match - Delete either one.
[X]  Exact match except bitrate (and file size) - Delete song with lower bitrate.
[X]  Exact match except length (and file size)- Delete shorter song.
[X]  Exact match except file size - Delete shorter song.
[X]  Exact match except one album name is blank - Delete the song with the blank.


Can you have DupFinder identify which song to delete based on user preferences and make that song #2 in the top window (or #1, either way)?  The user just has to "approve" the recommendations made by DupFinder based on the rules set by the user.  These rules could be the Autodelete preferences above.
Currently, Autodelete copies the songs to be deleted to the bottom window.  It's difficult for the user to do anything with that.  It would be easier if the song data were next to each other in the main window.  


And can you highlight what the difference is between the two songs?  For example, if the artists and titles and lengths are identical, maybe we don't need to see them twice?  We just need to see that one is recorded at 160kbs and the other at 128kbs - and that DupFinder suggests deleting the 128kbs file.


Also, how broad is the original search?  I think I have many duplicates in my library where the artist is the same, but the titles are different:
One title might include "Live" or "a capella" or "remix."  
One title may be truncated or appended (I Say A Little Prayer" vs. "I Say A Little Prayer For You.")
Many titles include the artist name, album, and track #.
Could DupFinder identify these songs?

Thanks.  (And feel free...)


Just trying to help,
Sam

[KingSparta]

When Playing Icon Shows On Artist1 And Artist2

Should That Not Be On Artist1 And Name1?

Maybe A Standard ">" Play Icon When It Is Playing

Looking Good...

Whats Next?

Save Config?

First Line In My Config Is App.Version Just to make sure Nothing Has Changed And If Version Does Not Match Reset To Default.

[Mirko]

@Sam:

Some very nice ideas. I have to think them over.

And can you highlight what the difference is between the two songs? For example, if the artists and titles and lengths are identical, maybe we don't need to see them twice?

I did a little something here. You get an icon in the columns, that match. This is not my favourite solution, I would like to have bold or italic fonts here, but the only one known to me yet.

@KingSparta:

The plugins saves options now. Automatically, so there is not button or something like that.
The bugs are fixed.

I'm on a little vacation the next three or four days, so there will be no update until then.

Mirko

[KingSparta]

>> I'm on a little vacation the next three or four days
>> so there will be no update until then.
don't you think you have that backwards?

I am on vacation, and my wife has me painting, Planting trees etc...

[Mirko]

don't you think you have that backwards?

I don't understand that (as a non english-speaker I may have missed the point)...

I am on vacation, and my wife has me painting, Planting trees etc...

I know that kind of vacation :-/

[KingSparta]

Mirko

>> don't you think you have that backwards?

> I don't understand that (as a non english-speaker
> I may have missed the point)...
Joke

Normaly My Vacations Are Filled With Work My ife Has On A List, And She Is Checking Them Off As I do Them


Now Drinking: Heineken, Special Dark Beer

"Beer" The Gift Of Life

Recently It Was Found That The First Thing Cave Men Created Was Beer (Prob To Cope With The Cave Wife).

[Mirko]

I added what Sam suggested. Not in perfection (you have to do it one after another, not multiple at once -> I would like that *g*), but they are there. You were right, it helps.

But about the deletion list... I like it. So I can easily check again, if this was the right decision. Using the feature KingSparta suggested (automatic selection of the corresponding item in the duplicates list), it is very helpfull in comparing. So this will stay (or, like you, I say "no" ;-) )

Ok. Now I have to help packing the things for the weekend. "Helping" is a little bit too much. I have to listen to things like "I don't have enough cloths, you see that, don't you?" - "Err... (thinking: my own things are stuffed into 20cm, she has about 2meters) Yeah babe, you're right *sigh*".

Mirko

[KingSparta]

>> my own things are stuffed into 20cm, she has about 2meters)
>> Yeah babe, you're right *sigh*".
I feel your Pain

[Mirko]

I just did a new update...

[kandarohi]

i've just waded through this thread, and although i did not understand most of what i read, i like the idea of a duplicate finder/eraser for mj. can someone please post a weblink to where i can download the latest version of this plugin, or tell me where to find it? if it is a long address, i would need a direct link, as my 1 finger typing is so innaccurette. thanx.

[wickesy]

You can get it from www.2via.de  

All the best

David Wickes

[KingSparta]

It Is Also In The MJ Plug-Ins Section

http://www.musicex.com/cgi-bin/downloads/plugins.pl?type=10&start=0&end=10&page=1

[zak326]

This plugin really is a great idea and all the tweaks you guys are suggesting sound like a good end result but at this point they might as well be written in Swahili.
\Are there any clear instructions on how to use this thing.  I've been ex[perimenting wqith it , but have had mixed results.

I know that normally men dpn't read directions or lookl at maps until they havescrewed something up or are lost. I am now a bit of both. Help?

[Charlemagne 8]

Mirko,
I have the same problem with this one that I had with King's. No registry writing. Is this restricted to Non-Win98 OS versions also?
CVIII

[KingSparta]

if you use a plugin it basicly uses the same Registry.reg file with some small changes (File Name, Version Etc...) as the J river SDK.

I Asked The Question On Maybe how to fix this or if there was a work around for users with An Older OS.

But i have never been given an answer or the time of day. It Seems Plug-Ins are not a priority right now and Version 9 is, And i understand to a point.

[Charlemagne 8]

And so we wait. It will be resolved sooner or later. I am actually toying with the idea of getting a newer computer. Mine is two years old. That's old for a computer. I don't really have a problem with getting a new computer, just paying for one is the sticking point.
CVIII

[Mirko]

@zak326

Are there any clear instructions on how to use this thing.  I've been ex[perimenting wqith it , but have had mixed results.

It is quite simple to use, I thought: I added some instructions to the "About/Help"-Tab.

But these are the simple steps:

• go to the setup-page and select an autodeletion-options. This preselects songs from the duplicates-list for deletion, so you haven't to do this manually
• On the first page hit the "Go"-button and let the plugin analyze your database
• In the duplicates-list (the list at the top), order the songs by matchquote (the "%") and look at the once with 100%. One of them can be deleted without fear, so hit the "delete 1st" or "delete 2nd" button.
• The list at the bottom includes the songs selected for deletion. If you hit "delete!", they get moved to the playlist called "duplicates", where you can choose what to do with them (either delete or move them to another location). I did no actually remove function on purpose, because this is beta. In the final, there will be an option to physically remove the files also. This step is manual work so far.

If there are any other question, please ask again.

Mirko, vacation to short, life is hard.

[Sam]

Does the plug-in decide which song to be #1 and #2, or is it random?  It could be helpful if one was always the smaller, shorter, or lower bit rate one.

And what is that squiggly thing on the left?  

[Mirko]

Sam,

I don't know if this the order #1 or #2 is random. MJ gives me the whole database and I go through it (one by one, more or less). So the one songs that comes first, gets first.

I have to think about how to order the songs. You are the second IIRC that requested such a feature. But I'm not sure, how to do this. If the bitrate and duration and filelength are different, there is no easy choice which one should be significant for ordering. Ok, I might do this as an option, but if I do this, some time in the future the setup-tab gets bigger than the actual function-tab ;-)

What do you meen by "And what is that squiggly thing on the left?"? Do you mean the percentages? These are matchquotes, e.g. marks on how matching to songs are (if mq is 100% they are the same, if it is 80% they are nearly the same).

[Sam]

No, not the percentages.   LOL

Here it is...  



That's okay; I don't need a "Sam-special" option in the tab.

[LCtheDJ]

Mirko,

I just installed your Duplicate Finder plugin and have not yet become familiar with all that it can do, but I am wondering if it can help with this:

I'm re-ripping my CDs and encoding them in Ogg Vorbis to replace the mp3 copies of the same recordings.  Can the Duplicate Finder find files with the same filename except for the file extension, and then delete one of them?

In other words, I want it to find and delete "Filename142.mp3" when there is also a "Filename142.ogg".

Can your plugin do this?  If not, could this function be added to it?

[Mirko]

It doesn't do this right now.

But, sure, I can add this "autodelete-option" (some sort of preselecting of to deleted songs).

Will have to wait for a min. of 10hours (I'm currently at work).

Just to clearify: The filenames are _exactly_ the same, except extension (upper/lower case is ignored)? There are no little things like track# added and such? Spaces are ignored at this moment, so adding spaces doesn't matter.

[Mirko]

That's okay; I don't need a "Sam-special" option in the tab.

The problem with this little white squares is, that I don't put them in on purpose. It's a side effect of the mechanism I use to add icons to listview-items. In fact, there _are_ little icons in this white squares. But the transparency of the used colors is not correctly applied (and I'm in fact no sort of artist (and lazy), so I (maybe you) have to look for a 16x16 ICO-file without any contents but transparency bits).

Maybe someone could provide such an icon. If anybody has one, please send it to mwalter@2via.de, put please zips them (they are sooooo big ).

[JimH]

But i have never been given an answer or the time of day. It Seems Plug-Ins are not a priority right now and Version 9 is, And i understand to a point.

King, I'm sorry, but I missed this one.  It is 8:35PM.